# Europe has become far too liberal, and now it's destroying the entire continent **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045 "2011-04-20T03:04:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/161 "2011-04-20T16:49:59Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Considering how overpopulated the planet is, this is a bad thing how? The problem is the distribution of resources (ironically as Marxists will argue) not the lack of it. > [@](#): > > And are are 1,310,158,851 Han Chinese according to [Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_Chinese); even if they dropped by 90% (hah!) that would leave 131,015,885. Over a hundred million is not exactly small. That would be an all-time low in centuries, not to mention it will cause massive economic problems. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/162 "2011-04-20T16:53:59Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > Now all this is fun. We taunted a madman and it doesn’t get any better than that but I’d suggest the real fun comes when we all start posting in other unrelated threads and try to sneak Floyd references into our posts. Interesting thought. To be fair to the OP, I think the difference in per capita colander ownership is telling. CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/163 "2011-04-20T16:56:48Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > The problem is the distribution of resources (ironically as Marxists will argue) not the lack of it. Wrong. We are outright running low on various resources, like drinkable water. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/164 "2011-04-20T16:58:34Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Wrong. We are outright running low on various resources, like drinkable water. Which can be solved by such things as limitng water use on wasteful things (ie gardening for instance) and implementing new technologies such as desalination plants. ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/165 "2011-04-20T17:01:27Z")
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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/166 "2011-04-20T17:12:00Z")
> [@xenophon41](#): > > Refer to [post # 90](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13707792&postcount=90) for the tastier serving of this joke. > > I believe we’re being far too unwelcoming to **samusaran**. Come inside, dear boy. No doctor reference. And I wonder how many people around here understand the importance of Frenchmen not being wrong. As for our OP, if he were sent to 30 Rock and allowed to speak, he’d revitalize SNL. ---
**Author:** ![samusaran253](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f14d63/32.png) [@samusaran253](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samusaran253)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/167 "2011-04-20T17:12:54Z")
> [@CitizenPained](#): > > failed economy > > Also, school uniforms have been linked to decreased violence and better grades. Only in America do we think that educating our children in a professional environment is a bad thing. :rolleyes: Failed economy? Liberals (Democrats) have no idea how economics work. American conservatives and libertarians on the other hand know how to manage an economy. Also, school uniforms have nothing to do with “professionalism” or better grades or violence. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/168 "2011-04-20T17:16:39Z")
Welcome back! Which football team did you buy? ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/169 "2011-04-20T17:17:12Z")
> [@samusaran253](#): > > American conservatives and libertarians on the other hand know how to manage an economy. Heh! They sure did a great job under the last Admin. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/170 "2011-04-20T17:17:38Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > They have a bigger population base from which they’re falling from, but the populations of Europe and East Asia are projected to fall massively over the coming century from Tokyo to Madrid. A distant ship’s smoke on the horizon. Tell me, is something eluding you sunshine ? Is this not what you expected to see ? ETA: > [@Pink](#): > > Failed economy? Liberals (Democrats) have no idea how economics work. American conservatives and libertarians on the other hand know how to manage an economy. _snort_ Yeah, we saw that. ---
**Author:** ![notquitekarpov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@notquitekarpov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notquitekarpov)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/171 "2011-04-20T17:18:43Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > Which can be solved by such things as limitng water use on wasteful things (ie gardening for instance) and implementing new technologies such as desalination plants. He’s having a go at the flowers now! ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/172 "2011-04-20T17:21:46Z")
> [@acsenray](#): > > Welcome back! Which football team did you buy? **acsenray** , I must have missed something the OP has said, but why do you all talk about him like he has said he was some kind of multi millionaire or something? ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/173 "2011-04-20T17:23:29Z")
> [@acsenray](#): > > Welcome back! Which football team did you buy? He was away driving his Jaguar. He loves it. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/174 "2011-04-20T17:23:38Z")
> [@samusaran253](#): > > Failed economy? Liberals (Democrats) have no idea how economics work. American conservatives and libertarians on the other hand know how to manage an economy. Also, school uniforms have nothing to do with “professionalism” or better grades or violence. Indeed. Just compare the economy under Clinton and GWB! ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/175 "2011-04-20T17:25:23Z")
> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > **acsenray** , I must have missed something the OP has said, but why do you all talk about him like he has said he was some kind of multi millionaire or something? Re-read OP. Re-read thread replies. Listen to Pink Floyd’s _The Wall_ and \*Dark Side Of The Moon. \* Check back in. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/176 "2011-04-20T17:27:29Z")
> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > **acsenray** , I must have missed something the OP has said, but why do you all talk about him like he has said he was some kind of multi millionaire or something? Because he’s a good job with good pay and he’s okay. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/177 "2011-04-20T17:27:50Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > By the UN: [http://www.un.org/esa/population/publications/wpp2006/WPP2006\_Highlights\_rev.pdf](http://www.un.org/esa/population/publications/wpp2006/WPP2006_Highlights_rev.pdf) I’m not doing your homework for you, chucky. Where does it say the populations of Europe and East Asian will drastically decline? ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/178 "2011-04-20T17:28:24Z")
> [@joebuck20](#): > > Because he’s a good job with good pay and he’s okay. Ok, the millionaire thing is another PF ref? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/179 "2011-04-20T17:30:22Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > Which can be solved by such things as limiting water use on wasteful things (ie gardening for instance) Liberal nanny-statist! > [@](#): > > and implementing new technologies such as desalination plants. Union-socialist boondoggler! ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europe-has-become-far-too-liberal-and-now-its-destroying-the-entire-continent/579045/180 "2011-04-20T17:32:41Z")
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