# Europe's anti-Semitism crisis

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europes-anti-semitism-crisis/726130>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [July 25, 2015, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europes-anti-semitism-crisis/726130 "2015-07-25T02:50:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europes-anti-semitism-crisis/726130/281 "2015-07-29T20:49:44Z")

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> [@Haberdash](#):
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> Nah, if board moderators are going to step in and try to regulate discussions they’re participating in based on whether they approve of the opposing arguments or not, I have nothing further to say here.

None of the things you were being moderated for are arguments. They’re _assertions_. Whole different animal.

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europes-anti-semitism-crisis/726130/282 "2015-07-29T21:07:05Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> No it isn’t. The Jewish agency, and most Israeli Jewish politicians, encourage Jews to immigrate to Israel _now_, not in some nebulous future. The Zionist ethos has always been aliyah by choice, not necessity.

But they use that phrase that irks you, “safe haven,” to describe the basis for the choice (as [here](http://m.jpost.com/Israel-News/Natan-Sharansky-passionate-about-bringing-the-persecuted-to-a-safe-haven-398649#article=6020MTMxODFEMEI5MTgzOTQ2QTI0Qjk3RTFGNkMzRkE1NkI=), for example, in a _Jerusalem Post_ headline talking about Sharansky talking about France).

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europes-anti-semitism-crisis/726130/283 "2015-07-29T22:05:20Z")

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> [@Hiker](#):
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> Now you are differentiating. Good. I have no problem with anyone calling out Muslim \*radicals \*for what they really are. And there certainly are those whose interpretation of Islam is quite accuately described as “nasty killer cult”. What I do not like is generalization. Muslims today represent almost a quarter of the world’s population. To imply that they are all of a mind with the extremists among them is simply unfair - and it is not conductive to any attempt at solving the problem.

Yeah, sorry. I do think the earliest caliphs and those who codified the Qur’an have a lot to answer for, and there’s a \*prima facie \*case for condemning some of the earliest Muslim rulers as “crazy cult leaders.”

But no, obviously that hasn’t been universal. At some point Mohammed was just a familiar part of tradition. But I suggest he became an unassailable part of tradition because of a strategy of force and suppression maintained by fanatics.

(Much like some other “good shepherds.”)

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europes-anti-semitism-crisis/726130/284 "2015-07-29T22:53:46Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> None of the things you were being moderated for are arguments. They’re _assertions_. Whole different animal.

Personally, I am tickled that his kneejerk answer to a mod telling him to stop misrepresenting what other posters say is to misrepresent the mod note itself. That’s dedication to one’s art and no mistake !

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/europes-anti-semitism-crisis/726130/285 "2015-07-30T00:20:38Z")

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> [@Haberdash](#):
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> Nah, if board moderators are going to step in and try to regulate discussions they’re participating in based on whether they approve of the opposing arguments or not, I have nothing further to say here.

I have made no decision based on approval or disapproval of your arguments.  
I told you to stop misrepresenting what other posters had said.

If misrepresenting other posters is your argument, then find a better argument.

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