# Euthanasiast, you musically uneducated little shit

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euthanasiast-you-musically-uneducated-little-shit/379256>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 6, 2006, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euthanasiast-you-musically-uneducated-little-shit/379256 "2006-11-06T04:14:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euthanasiast-you-musically-uneducated-little-shit/379256/21 "2006-11-06T14:55:54Z")

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Excellent comeback. I would have enjoyed it more if the whole debate didn’t continually remind me of [this](http://www.theonion.com/content/node/25842).

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**Author:** ![Oregon\_sunshine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/50afbb/32.png) [@Oregon\_sunshine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oregon_sunshine)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euthanasiast-you-musically-uneducated-little-shit/379256/22 "2006-11-06T15:09:49Z")

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Doesn’t _anybody_ listen to JAZZ anymore?? 😕

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**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euthanasiast-you-musically-uneducated-little-shit/379256/23 "2006-11-06T16:09:14Z")

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[QUOTE=Oregon sunshine]  
Doesn’t _anybody_ listen to JAZZ anymore?? 😕  
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Well the kids listen to the “rap” music and then they get the brain damage. With their hippin’ and their hoppin’ and their bippin’ and their boppin’ they don’t know what the Jazz is all about.  
Pokémon, anyone?

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euthanasiast-you-musically-uneducated-little-shit/379256/24 "2006-11-06T16:55:01Z")

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Note to self: Don’t cross **Euthanasiast**. Ever.

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**Author:** ![Roonwit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@Roonwit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roonwit)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euthanasiast-you-musically-uneducated-little-shit/379256/25 "2006-11-06T16:56:24Z")

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[QUOTE=Lightray]  
A very dull rant, until Euthanasiast spanked the Monkey.  
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Is there a Pun of the Month award? There really should be.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euthanasiast-you-musically-uneducated-little-shit/379256/26 "2006-11-06T16:59:06Z")

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I don’t know what all the fuss is about and I feel ambivalent about both posters, which is to say I like their posts somewhat, but I gotta admit \*\*Euthanasiast’s \*\*response was jaw-droppingly amazing.

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**Author:** ![Leviosaurus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/439d5e/32.png) [@Leviosaurus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leviosaurus)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euthanasiast-you-musically-uneducated-little-shit/379256/27 "2006-11-06T18:10:52Z")

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[QUOTE=rayh]  
G G E A G E G G E A G E  
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ROTFLMAO!  
C C C F F G G G F F

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euthanasiast-you-musically-uneducated-little-shit/379256/28 "2006-11-06T18:17:07Z")

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So much quality anger wasted on such a stupefyingly inane topic.

\<sigh\>

I would like to enthusiastically sign up for the “Justin Timberlake and John Mayer both suck” club, while noting that John Mayer does, at least, play his own instrument, which automatically makes him half as sucky.

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euthanasiast-you-musically-uneducated-little-shit/379256/29 "2006-11-06T18:19:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Dung Beetle]  
Note to self: Don’t cross **Euthanasiast**. Ever.  
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Ditto. :eek:

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euthanasiast-you-musically-uneducated-little-shit/379256/30 "2006-11-06T18:48:06Z")

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[QUOTE=Dung Beetle]  
Note to self: Don’t cross **Euthanasiast**. Ever.  
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I’ll say. That was like watching Bobby Brady pick a fight with Mike Tyson.

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**Author:** ![Hippy\_Hollow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hippy_hollow/32/4841_2.png) [@Hippy\_Hollow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hippy_Hollow)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euthanasiast-you-musically-uneducated-little-shit/379256/31 "2006-11-06T19:56:08Z")

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**Euthanasiast** - 9 out of 10. Devastating.

Not sure why the poster felt the need for a pitting over differences in musical tastes… but FTR, I think though both Timberlake and Mayer have a smidgen of talent, I’d rather listen to… just about anything else.

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euthanasiast-you-musically-uneducated-little-shit/379256/32 "2006-11-06T20:19:58Z")

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I’d do **Euthansiast**.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euthanasiast-you-musically-uneducated-little-shit/379256/33 "2006-11-06T20:21:24Z")

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[QUOTE=Giraffe]  
I’ll say. That was like watching Bobby Brady pick a fight with Mike Tyson.  
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The young Mike Tyson. Before his conversion to cannibalism.

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**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euthanasiast-you-musically-uneducated-little-shit/379256/34 "2006-11-06T20:22:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Soapbox Monkey]  
Since when do lyrics make a song?  
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Are you fucking serious?

Try remedying your own “apparent lack of musical education or experience” before you go spouting off crap like this around people who actually _do_ know better.

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**Author:** ![Soapbox\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Soapbox\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soapbox_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euthanasiast-you-musically-uneducated-little-shit/379256/35 "2006-11-06T20:26:25Z")

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Can’t reply in full just yet but just in passing I need to re-emphasize for the people who don’t seem to fully understand the debate: this is not a debate on Justin Timberlake vs. John Mayer.

This was me arguing that talent and virtuosity with an instrument does not a good songwriter make, and for some reason, Euthansiast just doesn’t seem to be able to grasp that fact. He apparently thinks that I mean the lyrics, again not realizing that a good song is more than just a talented guitarist, poetic lyrics, and some drum and bass. And as someone who’s been studying and playing music for as long as he claims, the fact that he can’t seem to understand my point is incredibly frustrating.

Anyway, be back in about 2 hours.

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**Author:** ![Jaade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dfb087/32.png) [@Jaade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaade)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euthanasiast-you-musically-uneducated-little-shit/379256/36 "2006-11-06T20:28:14Z")

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[QUOTE=lissener]  
I’d do **Euthansiast**.  
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Sorry darling, he’s spoken for. 😉

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**Author:** ![Soapbox\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Soapbox\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soapbox_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euthanasiast-you-musically-uneducated-little-shit/379256/37 "2006-11-06T20:28:58Z")

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[QUOTE=Misnomer]  
Are you fucking serious?

Try remedying your own “apparent lack of musical education or experience” before you go spouting off crap like this around people who actually _do_ know better.  
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Could you kindly expand upon your argument?

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euthanasiast-you-musically-uneducated-little-shit/379256/38 "2006-11-06T20:34:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Soapbox Monkey]  
Can’t reply in full just yet but just in passing I need to re-emphasize for the people who don’t seem to fully understand the debate: this is not a debate on Justin Timberlake vs. John Mayer.

This was me arguing that talent and virtuosity with an instrument does not a good songwriter make, and for some reason, Euthansiast just doesn’t seem to be able to grasp that fact. He apparently thinks that I mean the lyrics, again not realizing that a good song is more than just a talented guitarist, poetic lyrics, and some drum and bass. And as someone who’s been studying and playing music for as long as he claims, the fact that he can’t seem to understand my point is incredibly frustrating.  
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Or, perhaps, the fact that you are too boringly cliche an example of the “ignorance=arrogance” phenomenon prevents you from understanding that your point is easily understood and even more easily dismissed.

When someone who’s smarter than you disagrees with your “point,” it’s not usually because \*they \*don’t understand _you._

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euthanasiast-you-musically-uneducated-little-shit/379256/39 "2006-11-06T20:35:20Z")

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**Soapbox Monkey** , if I were you on this occasion I’d just retire with my tail between my legs.

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**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2006, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/euthanasiast-you-musically-uneducated-little-shit/379256/40 "2006-11-06T20:40:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright]  
I would like to enthusiastically sign up for the “Justin Timberlake and John Mayer both suck” club, while noting that John Mayer does, at least, play his own instrument, which automatically makes him half as sucky.  
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Well I hear Cameron Diaz plays Justin Timberlake’s instrument, which makes him pretty cool.

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