# Eutychus **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 18, 2003, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eutychus/189311 "2003-07-18T03:35:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eutychus/189311/81 "2003-07-19T20:52:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Scotticher \* > > * * * > > Yes, it is my opinion. > > Whatever. Sorry you think it is wrong for me to be expressing my opinon in this forum. Personally, I think this whole issue doesn’t belong in this forum. But …here it is, so there you have it. \*\* I concur. I think the only thing saving this from the Pit is the fact that the thread would devolve even further into a bile fest rather than the initial tone of the OP which I thought was to be informative. ---
**Author:** ![fruitbat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fruitbat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fruitbat)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eutychus/189311/82 "2003-07-19T20:56:24Z")
> [@](#): > > I concur. > > I think the only thing saving this from the Pit is the fact that the thread would devolve even further into a bile fest rather than the initial tone of the OP which I thought was to be informative. Well, I sense some some weaselesque behavior by putting the thread here. If a decision was made that would clearly provoke disagreement, then perhaps it belonged in the Pit from the beginning. I certainly can’t blame anyone for voicing distaste in the one thread devoted to the subject. I doubt the Admin would appreciate a separate thread opened in the Pit. ---
**Author:** ![hebesphenomegacorona](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b9e5f3/32.png) [@hebesphenomegacorona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hebesphenomegacorona)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eutychus/189311/83 "2003-07-19T22:04:44Z")
For a minute, I thought this was a warning to Euty… ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eutychus/189311/84 "2003-07-19T22:23:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by fruitbat \* > \*\*Well, I sense some some weaselesque behavior by putting the thread here. If a decision was made that would clearly provoke disagreement, then perhaps it belonged in the Pit from the beginning. > > I certainly can’t blame anyone for voicing distaste in the one thread devoted to the subject. I doubt the Admin would appreciate a separate thread opened in the Pit. \*\* I don’t know. There was no statement to the effect of “and please don’t open a Pit thread on this subject,” even though we were provided with little information. The OP was nothing more than a press release. I don’t think anything has been said or implied that would preculde someone’s opening a Pit thread if they so chose. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eutychus/189311/85 "2003-07-19T23:25:46Z")
> [@](#): > > As a friend of Cheri’s, even if I hadn’t done some research, I would still feel the need to stand beside her since she’s being attacked without provocation. If she had done something to be called on, you can bet I’d being trying to help her see that. But, IMO, Samclem, I hope you are working on your apology. I don’t think I _attacked_ Scotticher. If she feels so, then I apologize. I merely offered some advice from a dispasionate poster to the thread. **Scotticher** even posts > [@](#): > > Anyway, during the time I was trying to recreate my post, my friend/sister Shayna called and convinced me that I should just shut up already. . I don’t want her to “shut up”, rather don’t bring this to a head in this thread. I simply felt that she was trying to vent her feeling about the matter in this thread. I felt that this thread was more of a “let’s get on with life without bringing down the house” thread as opposed to the alternative Pit roasting. And the number of posters who are merely wishing Euty well are doing the right thing. Una, **Anthracite** , in her usual wisdom, tempered by having her own board, posts that > [@](#): > > And it has to be extremely difficult for all people involved, and I can imagine that quite a number of people on the Staff, regardless of which “side” they are on, have had their Summer ruined a bit by this. If members here think that the Administration of this board **enjoy or take delight** in the action against **Euty** , they’d be wrong. It’s a no-win situation for everyone. Posters, Mods, Admins. I take **Ed Zotti’s** putting this thread in the **Cafe Society** section at face value. The people that are the most affected read CS. It was a good move, IMHO. Nothing devious, IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![Jervoise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d2c977/32.png) [@Jervoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jervoise)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2003, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eutychus/189311/86 "2003-07-20T12:43:44Z")
All the very best, **Eutychus**. Thank you for your work here. ---
**Author:** ![Ruffian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71e660/32.png) [@Ruffian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruffian)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2003, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eutychus/189311/87 "2003-07-20T13:18:38Z")
Sorry to see **Euty** go. Will he at least still be able to post here as a “lowly” member? Meanwhile, if _he_ is placed on hiatus, then what happened with **CK Dexter Haven**? A waved finger and a “don’t do that again”?? I’m stunned that since those threads were locked there hasn’t been a word said (so to speak) on the matter. I’m surprised he hasn’t come forth with some form of “Oops,” if not “I’m sorry.” Huh. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2003, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eutychus/189311/88 "2003-07-20T13:22:22Z")
I’m of reasonable confidence when someone on here says hiatus, they _mean_ hiatus. Euty will, therefore, barring further untoward actions, return, yah? And who’s doing teemings? ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2003, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eutychus/189311/89 "2003-07-20T15:12:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by E-Sabbath \* > \*\*I’m of reasonable confidence when someone on here says hiatus, they _mean_ hiatus. Euty will, therefore, barring further untoward actions, return, yah? > > And who’s doing teemings? \*\* When a television show goes on hiatus, it almost never returns. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2003, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eutychus/189311/90 "2003-07-20T16:23:45Z")
Television shows go on hiatus every spring. Haven’t you ever heard actors talking about the movies they made “while on hiatus?” ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2003, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eutychus/189311/91 "2003-07-20T16:32:53Z")
\*\* Eutychus\*\*–a good Doper. There _is_ no higher praise. ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2003, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eutychus/189311/92 "2003-07-20T17:49:10Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Mockingbird_ > > > [@](#): > > > > _Originally posted by E-Sabbath_ > > > > I’m of reasonable confidence when someone on here says hiatus, they _mean_ hiatus. Euty will, therefore, barring further untoward actions, return, yah? > > > > And who’s doing teemings? > > When a television show goes on hiatus, it almost never returns. This is not the first time **Eutychus** has either taken or been put on haitus from moderating at SD. **Euty** has a long, successful relationship with the administrators here. There is no reason to _assume_ that he’ll never return to moderating, or that they won’t be able to maintain a successful working relationship even if he’s not moderating for a while (or ever again). He is, afterall, still a contributor to the Straight Dope Staff Reports! For the record, I did not tell our dear, sweet **Scotticher** to “shut up”. What I did say was that I could tell by reading her posts that she was extremely upset, and that continuing in this thread in the heat of that moment would not be a good idea, either for herself, for **Euty** or for the board. I felt that she’d stated her opinion, reiterated and defended it and that was really all that was necessary. But just like **C K Dexter Haven** allowed himself to become righteously indignant with only the partial facts that had been made public, I felt that **Scotticher** , who by her own admission had “had no dialogue with **Euty** or anyone else involved in the recent situation about this,” should perhaps take a step back and not contribute to making things worse than they already are, without _all_ of the facts at her disposal. Like the classy lady she is, she agreed. To **Euty** and the rest of the SD Staff, I hope you can resolve whatever strain there has been between you. This has been a very difficult situation for _everyone_ involved. May you all heal from this soon. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2003, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eutychus/189311/93 "2003-07-20T18:47:42Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by samclem \* > \*\*In _your opinion_. > > For the record, I doubt that I have ever posted anything to Scotticher. I just find her insistance on continuing a debate in this forumn to be out of place. IMHO. \*\* Why? Scotti’s right. Ed put this thread here, Gaudere has closed a thread about the subject started in the pit, where else are we gonna talk about it? The whole thing stinks, and the administration is in full cover up mode, the Bush administration has nothing on them. Ed even told Euty that he couldn’t write about the situation in his (Euty’s) personal, private live journal ( Although how he’s going to enforce that now that Euty’s no longer a moderator, I don’t know). The simple facts of the matter are that Dex acted the consumate asshole and Euty got, quite rightly, mad about it. Rather than do the right thing, the administration kept with it’s policy of never admiting that an administrator could be wrong and they sacrificed Euty on this crucible. Honestly, I will never understand why it is so hard for some people to just say “We were wrong”. This whole thing would have been over weeks ago if they had simply disciplined the person who was out of line, instead they have taken it out on an innocent man and the community here knows it. ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2003, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eutychus/189311/94 "2003-07-20T18:50:47Z")
[ Ed even told Euty that he couldn’t write about the situation in his (Euty’s) personal, private live journal ( Although how he’s going to enforce that now that Euty’s no longer a moderator, I don’t know). \*\* [/QUOTE] He’s still a member, though. So in theory they could ban him. ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2003, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eutychus/189311/95 "2003-07-20T18:52:27Z")
Bad coding! No donut! (That quote was from **Weirddave**.) ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2003, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eutychus/189311/96 "2003-07-20T19:36:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Weirddave \* > **Gaudere has closed a thread about the subject started in the pit,** IIRC, **Gaudere** only closed the Pit Thread after the OP asked (and e-mailed/"report this poste"ed) to have it closed. I assume that a Pit thread on this topic is OK (IANAMod, etc) Fenris ---
**Author:** ![Blackeyes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f6c823/32.png) [@Blackeyes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackeyes)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2003, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eutychus/189311/97 "2003-07-20T21:04:27Z")
Wow. Whole. E. Crap. It’s amazing how much my mood swayed as I was reading the posts. My judgement on the situation is that is was a bad deal all around, like Scylla said. Dex was allowed his social morality. There’s no rule saying Dex can’t act like a regular poster, but IMHO he’s an Admin and has a set of behavior that’s supposed to go along with it. He didn’t just “speak his mind”, he gosh darnit flamed her in her MPSIMS thread. As fact. And the first train wrecked, so there was another thread in the Pit. And Euty gave Dex a piece of his mind and many people gave each other a flaming piece of their minds, and the second train wrecked. Ed made a post which defended Dex, which Dex might have needed some techincal backing up, and more people gave a flaming piece of their minds and the third train wrecked. I don’t know if that train wreck is an ongoing one, however. In the end Euty gets the shaft? ☹ This is a big pile of something ugly I never saw until now. I don’t want to turn this thread into another trainwreck (so far this thread has been pretty civil, unlike others), so just dismiss my humble opinion all you want. I signed on about 40 minutes ago and the first thread I went into was this one, almost the only thing I’ve done is read the backstory so far. I feel like getting away from this board for the rest of the day. ---
**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2003, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eutychus/189311/98 "2003-07-20T21:44:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by I\_Dig\_Bad\_Boys \* > \*\*[Mr. Spock]Live long…and prosper.[/Mr.Spock] > \*\* [Hear, Hear!](http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mhear.html) It seems like Euty got a raw deal - though I don’t know what behind the scenes emails, discussions, and arguments have taken place. I do hope that with the clarity of time’s passage, Eutychus will participate in any and all roles that he wishes. ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2003, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eutychus/189311/99 "2003-07-20T21:44:42Z")
**Euty** What will you do with all your free time on hiatus? Enjoy the time off. You deserve it. ---
**Author:** ![SolGrundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@SolGrundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SolGrundy)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eutychus/189311/100 "2003-07-21T04:06:31Z")
Well, I’m a fairly frequent poster and a long-time reader of the column, but I’ve never really been a part of the “community,” on a first-name basis with anybody on the boards. But still, Eutychus has always struck me as a very smart and well-read guy with a great sense of humor, which sums up the general “personality” of the SDMB in the first place. The other side of the SDMB “personality” – the arrogant, know-it-all, smarter-than-thou blowhard geeks has more than enough representation, and Eutychus always seemed like a good counter for the forces of good. But most of all, he’s always come across as a decent man. Even if you think that kind of thing doesn’t come across over something as impersonal as the internet, especially with the people who don’t make much effort to get to know you personally – it definitely does. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eutychus/189311.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eutychus/189311.md?page=6)