# Evan Dando, renowned idiot, encourages the youth of the world to shoot up heroin **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 22, 2003, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evan-dando-renowned-idiot-encourages-the-youth-of-the-world-to-shoot-up-heroin/176879 "2003-05-22T20:11:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Payton\_s\_Servant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3da27b/32.png) [@Payton\_s\_Servant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Payton_s_Servant)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evan-dando-renowned-idiot-encourages-the-youth-of-the-world-to-shoot-up-heroin/176879/1 "2003-05-22T20:11:22Z")
Considering that according to the new **Rolling Stone** , (which incidentally, has a story about a guy with a 13 inch long cock:p ) Evan Dando, pretty boy/hack songwriter, founder of The Lemonheads is supposedly clean and completely off drugs, it was interesting to then see the following quote attributed to Dando appear in the new **Q** magazine: "_I wasn’t gonna leave this planet without shooting up. It’s a beautiful process, you know."_ :rolleyes: :rolleyes: AssHat doesn’t cover it. CrapHat doesn’t cover it. Here is someone whose entire musical career was based mainly around his cheekbones and facial structure and on the one hand he’s telling **Rolling Stone** that he’s clean, and then he tells **Q** how cool it is to shoot up heroin. Fucking waste of oxygen. Pete Townshend should come after his ass with a guitar, like he did Abbie Hoffman’s at Woodtsock. ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evan-dando-renowned-idiot-encourages-the-youth-of-the-world-to-shoot-up-heroin/176879/2 "2003-05-22T20:29:51Z")
Well, an argument can be made that the act of doing heroin is a beautiful thing, its just not being able to get more heroin later that really sucks – and that the bad it caused later wasnt worth the short-term good it provided. In either case, Dando and the Lemonheads have always sucked. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evan-dando-renowned-idiot-encourages-the-youth-of-the-world-to-shoot-up-heroin/176879/3 "2003-05-22T20:31:56Z")
Heroin is fun. That’s just honest. Is he supposed to lie? ---
**Author:** ![UnwrittenNocturne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/6de8d8/32.png) [@UnwrittenNocturne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UnwrittenNocturne)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evan-dando-renowned-idiot-encourages-the-youth-of-the-world-to-shoot-up-heroin/176879/4 "2003-05-22T20:37:18Z")
Gotta agree with **Diogenes** it is fun…if you do not get hooked ---
**Author:** ![Zazie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Zazie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zazie)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evan-dando-renowned-idiot-encourages-the-youth-of-the-world-to-shoot-up-heroin/176879/5 "2003-05-22T20:42:14Z")
whaoo, you guys are weird. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evan-dando-renowned-idiot-encourages-the-youth-of-the-world-to-shoot-up-heroin/176879/6 "2003-05-22T21:08:20Z")
What’s so weird about that **Zazie**? I’ve never done it myself, but know plenty of people who have. Most did not get hooked. Those who did, bad news. But all agree, it’s perhaps the most beautiful drug in existence. ---
**Author:** ![Zazie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Zazie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zazie)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evan-dando-renowned-idiot-encourages-the-youth-of-the-world-to-shoot-up-heroin/176879/7 "2003-05-22T21:16:59Z")
I can not come to the idea that a drug is “beautiful”… It is destructive, unhealthy, etc.etc. you get my point. How can you call it beautiful, to me it is saying it is a good thing?? ---
**Author:** ![Payton\_s\_Servant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3da27b/32.png) [@Payton\_s\_Servant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Payton_s_Servant)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evan-dando-renowned-idiot-encourages-the-youth-of-the-world-to-shoot-up-heroin/176879/8 "2003-05-22T21:21:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Zazie \* > \*\*I can not come to the idea that a drug is “beautiful”… > It is destructive, unhealthy, etc.etc. you get my point. > How can you call it beautiful, to me it is saying it is a good thing?? \*\* Because apparently some people find the idea of not giving a shit about anything except their next shot of heroin, to the point of not bathing in any way shape or form for up to six months, not eating, not changing their clothes and having their teeth fall out one by one is somehow _hip, with it, cool_ etc. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evan-dando-renowned-idiot-encourages-the-youth-of-the-world-to-shoot-up-heroin/176879/9 "2003-05-22T21:27:50Z")
Hell, it worked for William Burroughs for most of his natural life, and he lived to be an old man. He just was a little better at controlling it than most people. ---
**Author:** ![Stonebow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Stonebow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stonebow)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evan-dando-renowned-idiot-encourages-the-youth-of-the-world-to-shoot-up-heroin/176879/10 "2003-05-22T21:28:18Z")
oh. I had no idea who Evan Dando was…thought this might be another stunt by PETA. never mind. ps- this guy sucks, too. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evan-dando-renowned-idiot-encourages-the-youth-of-the-world-to-shoot-up-heroin/176879/11 "2003-05-22T21:35:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ogre \* > \*\*Hell, it worked for William Burroughs for most of his natural life, and he lived to be an old man. He just was a little better at controlling it than most people. \*\* Yes, it “worked” for him, if you count being a pitiful addict constantly scrounging for your next high, being arrested, confined with other desperate sad sacks in federal institutions, going through withdrawal etc. Entertaining dude though. Around my house, whenever we find a new physician who’ll fill a prescription without a hassle, we refer to him as “a croaker who’ll write scrip”. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evan-dando-renowned-idiot-encourages-the-youth-of-the-world-to-shoot-up-heroin/176879/12 "2003-05-22T21:35:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Payton’s Servant \* > \*\*Because apparently some people find the idea of not giving a shit about anything except their next shot of heroin, to the point of not bathing in any way shape or form for up to six months, not eating, not changing their clothes and having their teeth fall out one by one is somehow _hip, with it, cool_ etc. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: \*\* Again we have Payton’s Servant being an imbecile. Yes, all drugs are _evil_. **Everyone** who uses drugs ges hooked, becomes a thief, and is strung out. I’ve never done heroin, and never would want to. I doubt you’ve ever done heroin or a quality psychotrope. You don’t know about the experience. Yes, you wouldn’t want to. But you don’t know, so your insipid moralizing isn’t salient. As it was already stated by UnwrittenNocturne and pulykamell that getting hooked is the problem, why are you frothing at the mouth again as you did in the thread bout high school students and strippers? ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evan-dando-renowned-idiot-encourages-the-youth-of-the-world-to-shoot-up-heroin/176879/13 "2003-05-22T21:54:26Z")
While he may not have phrased it very well for a magzine interview, heroin is undeniably pleasureable, to put it mildly. That’s completely independent of the fact that’s it’s also an extremely dangerous drug that causes addiction, respiratory depression, and occassionally coma and death. Getting hooked isn’t even the worst of it; accidental overdoses can occur even in those who aren’t addicted (perhaps even more so, due to a lack of tolerance for the drug). It’s not too uncommon to hear recovered addicts talk about how they enjoyed their drug of choice; give them a few minutes and they’ll probably get around to how bad it sucks, too. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evan-dando-renowned-idiot-encourages-the-youth-of-the-world-to-shoot-up-heroin/176879/14 "2003-05-22T21:59:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mockingbird \* > \*\*Again we have Payton’s Servant being an imbecile. > > Yes, all drugs are _evil_. **Everyone** who uses drugs ges hooked, becomes a thief, and is strung out. > > I’ve never done heroin, and never would want to. > > I doubt you’ve ever done heroin or a quality psychotrope. > > You don’t know about the experience. \*\* No, man. But I hear it’s _beautiful_. As [this site](http://www.thedacare.org/counsel/streetdrugs/HEROIN.htm) says: “HEALTH HAZARDS: Due to Heroin’s highly addictive qualities, it is impossible to determine what “recreational” use might be. It is easy to assume that this person is likely to be a poly-substance abuser. Serious health consequences are often at risk due to the adulterants and the unreliability of the percentage of the actual drug being purchased. Fatal overdose is always a possibility. Infectious disease, including HIV/AIDS and Hepatitis are frequently a problem due to needle sharing and unsanitary conditions. Chronic users may experience collapsed veins and infection of the heart lining and valves. Users frequently experience skin abscesses, open sores due to dirty and dull needles. There is also a risk of liver disease and abscesses on the liver. Pneumonia is often seen due to the depression of the respiratory system. Adulterants injected in the vein can cause clots in the lungs, liver, kidney and brain. Heroin is the second most mentioned drug in drug related deaths.” **Payton’s Servant** , that prig, that buzz-killer, may know that a 1996 U.S. survey found 2.4 million people acknowledging having used heroin at one time or another, and that there are an estimated 600,000 heroin addicts in the country. Pretty damn high rate of addiction. But heroin is _beautiful_. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evan-dando-renowned-idiot-encourages-the-youth-of-the-world-to-shoot-up-heroin/176879/15 "2003-05-22T21:59:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jackmannii \* > \*\*Yes, it “worked” for him, if you count being a pitiful addict constantly scrounging for your next high, being arrested, confined with other desperate sad sacks in federal institutions, going through withdrawal etc. > > Entertaining dude though. Around my house, whenever we find a new physician who’ll fill a prescription without a hassle, we refer to him as “a croaker who’ll write scrip”. 😃 \*\* Well, life’s a bit different for each of us, isn’t it? Given the contributions he made to literature while on the Horse, and the fact that he lived to the age of 83, and died, apparently at peace, in his hometown, can you really say it didn’t “work for him?” ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evan-dando-renowned-idiot-encourages-the-youth-of-the-world-to-shoot-up-heroin/176879/16 "2003-05-22T22:04:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jackmannii \* > \*\ ***Payton’s Servant** , that prig, that buzz-killer, may know that a 1996 U.S. survey found 2.4 million people acknowledging having used heroin at one time or another, and that there are an estimated 600,000 heroin addicts in the country. Pretty damn high rate of addiction. > > But heroin is _beautiful_. \*\* That he might know something is a stretch. That he sees it as encouraging youth is ludicrous. Sure, some kid can _claim_ that, but a single throw away remark by a doofy supposed “pretty boy”(I don’t think he is remotely attractive) will not make anyone more or less liable to stick a syringe in their arm, IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![Payton\_s\_Servant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3da27b/32.png) [@Payton\_s\_Servant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Payton_s_Servant)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evan-dando-renowned-idiot-encourages-the-youth-of-the-world-to-shoot-up-heroin/176879/17 "2003-05-22T22:10:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ogre \* > \*\*Well, life’s a bit different for each of us, isn’t it? Given the contributions he made to literature while on the Horse, and the fact that he lived to the age of 83, and died, apparently at peace, in his hometown, can you really say it didn’t “work for him?” \*\* Don’t forget murdering his wife and getting away with it, by claiming that the two of them were just “_re-enacting_” the famous William Tell fable. ---
**Author:** ![Read\_Neck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19b73/32.png) [@Read\_Neck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Read_Neck)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evan-dando-renowned-idiot-encourages-the-youth-of-the-world-to-shoot-up-heroin/176879/18 "2003-05-22T22:15:10Z")
Damn,this thread really pulled out the idiots. Four digit post counts and not a clue what they’re talking about. Diogenes the Cynic ---- Some people may not know you for the adolescent idiot that you are. STFU ---
**Author:** ![Payton\_s\_Servant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3da27b/32.png) [@Payton\_s\_Servant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Payton_s_Servant)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evan-dando-renowned-idiot-encourages-the-youth-of-the-world-to-shoot-up-heroin/176879/19 "2003-05-22T22:19:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mockingbird \* > \*\*That he might know something is a stretch. > > That he sees it as encouraging youth is ludicrous. Sure, some kid can _claim_ that, but a single throw away remark by a doofy supposed “pretty boy”(I don’t think he is remotely attractive) will not make anyone more or less liable to stick a syringe in their arm, IMHO. \*\* Point #1: What the hell does my thread about the strippers and the high school baseball team have to do with this thread? Answer: **NOTHING.** Point #2: You doubt that I’ve ever done heroin or any _quality_ pyschotrope. At least you got one thing right. And I have less then no desire to. Having tried cocaine and found that it did absolutely nothing to me except numb my gums for 15 minutes, it’s become fairly obvious to me that most if not all controlled substances are simply yet another way for people to get out of taking responsibility for their actions. Point #3: _“That he might know something is a stretch.”_ Aww, gee. Now you’re gettin’ nasty. Too bad for you it’s an utterly ludicrous and untrue statement to make. I know a lot about many rich and varied topics. :wally ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evan-dando-renowned-idiot-encourages-the-youth-of-the-world-to-shoot-up-heroin/176879/20 "2003-05-22T22:24:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Read\_Neck \* > **Damn,this thread really pulled out the idiots. Four digit post counts and not a clue what they’re talking about.** I’ll assume you meant everyone here with 4 digit post counts…so that includes me. Tell me where I don’t know what I’m talking about. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evan-dando-renowned-idiot-encourages-the-youth-of-the-world-to-shoot-up-heroin/176879.md?page=2)