# "Even dolls were buried with the children"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/even-dolls-were-buried-with-the-children/179584>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [June 4, 2003, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/even-dolls-were-buried-with-the-children/179584 "2003-06-04T13:32:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2003, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/even-dolls-were-buried-with-the-children/179584/101 "2003-06-07T14:01:15Z")

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> \*Originally posted by december \*  
> \*\* I presume he and Colin Powell believed the reports they were given, but who knows? We can be certain that the President knows much more than you or I do. \*\*

“It’s not his ignorance that frightens me, its all the things he knows to be certain that just ain’t so.”

- Mark Twain

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**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2003, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/even-dolls-were-buried-with-the-children/179584/102 "2003-06-07T19:44:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by december \*  
> The mass murder of children, along with other evidence, indicates that the Ba’ath Regime was _evil_ or _ruthless_ or _depraved_ or _flagitious_.

No kidding. So why do you and Jonah Goldberg\* have such hard-ons for the dolls? You’ve got dozens of dead kids in a hole in the ground, so you go out selling the fact that (gasp!) the Saddamites are so mean that they even buried the kids’ dolls?

Have some perspective, d. Sometimes, spin is just so bloody inane that it obscures the real story. Dolls are not a story.  
\*Editor of National Review, who was also fixated on the dolls when I saw him on CNN the other morning.

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