# Even the criminals are freaked out!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/even-the-criminals-are-freaked-out/83945>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 26, 2001, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/even-the-criminals-are-freaked-out/83945 "2001-09-26T17:36:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/even-the-criminals-are-freaked-out/83945/1 "2001-09-26T17:36:10Z")

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Here’s hoping some things don’t return to normal in New York. The police think that it’s all the cops in Manhattan (as if Manhattan is all there is to NY). I think even the criminals are in a daze. See [here](http://www.nydailynews.com/2001-09-25/News_and_Views/City_Beat/a-126367.asp?last6days=1).  
Which brings up this point: those more than 6,000 souls were not murder victims?

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**Author:** ![Wumpus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8c91f0/32.png) [@Wumpus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wumpus)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/even-the-criminals-are-freaked-out/83945/2 "2001-09-26T18:02:06Z")

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We had a debate here about whether the deaths should be included in the homicide stats:

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/newreply.php?action=newreply&threadid=88178](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/newreply.php?action=newreply&threadid=88178)

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2001, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/even-the-criminals-are-freaked-out/83945/3 "2001-09-30T07:24:53Z")

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**Biggirl** , that link didn’t work. What was the gist of it?

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2001, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/even-the-criminals-are-freaked-out/83945/4 "2001-09-30T13:28:06Z")

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It works for me. It’s an article in the New York Daily News. You gotta pay after six days I believe but it hasn’t been six days yet. Here’s an exerpt:

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> Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik said overall crime dropped 17% last week compared with the same period last year. He previously reported a 34% citywide drop in crime for the week of the Sept. 11 tragedy.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Griffin-Kentzel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_griffin-kentzel/32/14787_2.png) [@Larry\_Griffin-Kentzel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Griffin-Kentzel)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2001, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/even-the-criminals-are-freaked-out/83945/5 "2001-09-30T14:45:46Z")

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**Biggirl** ’s link works for me.

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**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2001, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/even-the-criminals-are-freaked-out/83945/6 "2001-09-30T14:52:27Z")

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This may reveal too much about me, but I wonder if serial killers condemn these attacks? Would they be sitting in their homes, shaking their heads and saying “Now that’s just going too far”?

I’m serious. I mean, the IRA have condemned it, why not other nutcases with no respect for human life?

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2001, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/even-the-criminals-are-freaked-out/83945/7 "2001-09-30T15:09:44Z")

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> \*Originally posted by cazzle \*  
> \*\*This may reveal too much about me, but I wonder if serial killers condemn these attacks? Would they be sitting in their homes, shaking their heads and saying “Now that’s just going too far”?
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> I’m serious. I mean, the IRA have condemned it, why not other nutcases with no respect for human life? \*\*

Well, they might condemn it because it was someone else doing the killing. Or, if they are sociopaths, they might not care at all.
