# Ever been surprised by a young version of an old movie star?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-been-surprised-by-a-young-version-of-an-old-movie-star/318097>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 22, 2005, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-been-surprised-by-a-young-version-of-an-old-movie-star/318097 "2005-08-22T13:23:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-been-surprised-by-a-young-version-of-an-old-movie-star/318097/81 "2005-08-24T18:02:49Z")

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Watch Apocalypse Now to see a skinny Laurence Fishburne.

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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Tan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/charlie_tan/32/12582_2.png) [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-been-surprised-by-a-young-version-of-an-old-movie-star/318097/82 "2005-08-24T19:01:14Z")

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The coked up heavy metal singer in **The Dead Pool** is credited as James Carey. Seeing it again after having been exposed to Ace Ventura made me do a double take.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-been-surprised-by-a-young-version-of-an-old-movie-star/318097/83 "2005-08-24T19:15:34Z")

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Shh, don’t tell the people in the MASH Trivia thread, but…

In the movie _The Red Violin_, there is a segment that takes place in Shanghai. It’s all in Chinese. It stars a middle aged (but still hhhhhot!) actress named Sylvia Chang. Little did I realize that decades ago she played a prostitute in an episode of MASH. I think it was her only English-speaking role.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-been-surprised-by-a-young-version-of-an-old-movie-star/318097/84 "2005-08-24T19:27:20Z")

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> [@Kythereia](#):
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> Which one was that? _curious now_

[Here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=283275&highlight=famous) ya go.

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**Author:** ![pinkfreud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pinkfreud/32/17603_2.png) [@pinkfreud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinkfreud)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-been-surprised-by-a-young-version-of-an-old-movie-star/318097/85 "2005-08-24T19:46:24Z")

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I must have seen **Miracle on 34th Street** four or five times before it dawned on me that the little girl is played by Natalie Wood. Yes, **that** Natalie Wood. When I realized this, I literally whacked my forehead, and I would have said “d’oh,” except that Matt Groening hadn’t invented “d’oh” yet.

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**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-been-surprised-by-a-young-version-of-an-old-movie-star/318097/86 "2005-08-24T19:55:35Z")

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> [@pinkfreud](#):
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> Matt Groening hadn’t invented “d’oh” yet.

No, but James Finlayson had.

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**Author:** ![pinkfreud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pinkfreud/32/17603_2.png) [@pinkfreud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinkfreud)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-been-surprised-by-a-young-version-of-an-old-movie-star/318097/87 "2005-08-24T22:11:17Z")

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> [@Earl Snake-Hips Tucker](#):
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> No, but James Finlayson had.

Neat! I never made the connection. Thanx, **Earl**!

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**Author:** ![don\_Jaime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b4bc9f/32.png) [@don\_Jaime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_Jaime)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2005, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-been-surprised-by-a-young-version-of-an-old-movie-star/318097/88 "2005-08-25T04:07:27Z")

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…and Finlayson leads into the Laurel and Hardy collection, where we can pop _A Chump at Oxford_ into the tape deck to see a young Peter Cushing. Odd to see the cadaverous old man from Hammer and _Star Wars_ doing slapstick as a scheming college kid.

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**Author:** ![mamboman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecb155/32.png) [@mamboman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mamboman)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2005, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-been-surprised-by-a-young-version-of-an-old-movie-star/318097/89 "2005-08-25T10:43:41Z")

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Seeing Steven Hill in _Law and Order_ and then remembering him, 25 years before in _Mission Impossible_…

mm

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**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2005, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-been-surprised-by-a-young-version-of-an-old-movie-star/318097/90 "2005-08-25T12:03:48Z")

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On a related note how about some pictures of [Celebrities as Kids](http://www.davesdaily.com/pictures/411-pictures-of-celebrities-as-kids.htm)

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2005, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-been-surprised-by-a-young-version-of-an-old-movie-star/318097/91 "2005-08-25T12:15:55Z")

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If you’ve only ever seen James Earl Jones in Star Wars 😉 you should check him out in Dr. Strangelove from 1963.

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**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-been-surprised-by-a-young-version-of-an-old-movie-star/318097/92 "2008-09-15T01:39:43Z")

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> [@Walloon](#):
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> Nor was [Irene] Ryan a cute, young babe in the 1930s. She was a plain-looking, skinny-necked comic character actress.

[Some early photos](http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0752576/board/thread/117186846?d=117249883&p=1#117249883).

Now, she might not have been a raving beauty, but she wasn’t bad lookin’, either.

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**Author:** ![as\_u\_wish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6f9a4e/32.png) [@as\_u\_wish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/as_u_wish)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-been-surprised-by-a-young-version-of-an-old-movie-star/318097/93 "2008-09-15T02:29:52Z")

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Leslie Nielsen is impressive as a young, serious romantic lead.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-been-surprised-by-a-young-version-of-an-old-movie-star/318097/94 "2008-09-15T02:38:55Z")

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I believe some of the celebrities who were young when this thread was created may now count as old.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-been-surprised-by-a-young-version-of-an-old-movie-star/318097/95 "2008-09-15T03:34:29Z")

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Leslie Nielsen  
Not only did he look odd without the white hair, but he was a pretty damned good DRAMATIC actor.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-been-surprised-by-a-young-version-of-an-old-movie-star/318097/96 "2008-09-15T05:39:48Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> The young Lucille Ball in the Three Stooges shorts was just damn _hot_, I tells ya.

Thirded (or it fourthed?). What I thought of when I saw the thread title.

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-been-surprised-by-a-young-version-of-an-old-movie-star/318097/97 "2008-09-15T06:16:40Z")

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I just watched the newly available on DVD [_Dragonwyck_](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0038492/), which includes a 31-year-old Harry Morgan and a 37-year-old Jessica Tandy (although she convincingly plays a girl of about 19 or 20).

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**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-been-surprised-by-a-young-version-of-an-old-movie-star/318097/98 "2008-09-15T08:42:45Z")

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I’ve never really liked westerns, but as a kid for some reason I loved “The Big Valley” which had, for one of its stars, Barbara Stanwyck.

Years later while flipping through the channels I came across a movie…(looking up the name in IMDB)…I think it was [Lady of Burlesque](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0036094/)

Wow, what a difference about 20 years can make.

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-been-surprised-by-a-young-version-of-an-old-movie-star/318097/99 "2008-09-15T09:06:29Z")

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You should have seen how cute this thread looked three years ago 😉

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-been-surprised-by-a-young-version-of-an-old-movie-star/318097/100 "2008-09-15T13:29:48Z")

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I know **tdn** still posts, so…

> [@tdn](#):
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> It was an episode of Night Court, probably from around mid-season. The plot involved Roz going into anger management therapy, and the whole gang going with her. While there, a young black man broke into the place and threatened everyone with a gun. It was hard to see his face (bad TV lighting and dark-skinned people often make for unrecognizable faces), but the voice was unmistakably that of a very young Don Cheadle. The credits bore this out.

If you catch any more old episodes of _Night Court_, look for the Wheeler family as defendants. They were a down-on-their-luck immigrant couple who seemed to attract unlikely misery. Bob Wheeler was played by Brent Spinerbefore he became famous.

Here’s a [clip](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrLvtoKZfxY). Unfortunately for those of you playing along at home, the title gives away the answer.

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