# Ever boycott an artist because of thier behavior?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 1, 2009, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-boycott-an-artist-because-of-thier-behavior/512203 "2009-10-01T03:28:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-boycott-an-artist-because-of-thier-behavior/512203/41 "2009-10-02T10:46:02Z")

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Nope, I separate art and artist.

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**Author:** ![tim-n-va](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim-n-va/32/3001_2.png) [@tim-n-va](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim-n-va)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-boycott-an-artist-because-of-thier-behavior/512203/42 "2009-10-02T11:40:24Z")

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I think Amy Adams should do a movie with full frontal nudity to establish that she’s no longer LDS.

Serious answer: If the thing I don’t like about an artist is obvious in the art, I wouldn’t like it anyway. If their talent is sufficient to allow them to create an illusion that is different from what I don’t like about them, I’ll buy/watch/listen/read.

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**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-boycott-an-artist-because-of-thier-behavior/512203/43 "2009-10-02T12:16:03Z")

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> [@Dogzilla](#):
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> I boycott artists who are members of cults. I do not want to pay money to enjoy an artist’s work only to have a portion of that money in turn be donated to that artist’s cult of choice. This includes Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, and Scientologists, for the most part. If it doesn’t cost me money, i.e., the movie just lands on network TV or cable (my money goes to the cable company, not to that artist), then I will enjoy the work.
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> So far, I am actively boycotting:
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> Tom Cruise (Sci)  
> Jenna Elfman (Sci)  
> Beck (Sci)  
> Prince (JW)  
> Venus and Serena Williams (JW)  
> All of the Jacksons (unless I think they are no longer practicing JW)  
> Dave Mustaine/Megadeth (JW)  
> Brandon Flowers/The Killers (LDS)  
> Stephenie Meyer (LDS)  
> Amy Adams (LDS)  
> Dishwalla (LDS)  
> Gladys Knight (LDS)  
> All the Osmonds (LDS)  
> Steven Covey (and his stupid 7 highly effective habits) (LDS)  
> Katherine Heigl (LDS)  
> And all the other Scientologists I didn’t name, but who are found [here.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Scientologists)

Don’t forget Jon Heder (LDS).

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-boycott-an-artist-because-of-thier-behavior/512203/44 "2009-10-02T12:35:59Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Nancy Cartwright is a Scientologist.

:eek:

a-HA!! _THAT_ explains the constant\* anti-psychological drugs stoopidity in Simpsons.

Thanks! I suspected, but never knew.

\*Well, repeated, at least-there’s at least 3 episodes

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-boycott-an-artist-because-of-thier-behavior/512203/45 "2009-10-02T12:51:34Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> :eek:
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> a-HA!! _THAT_ explains the constant\* anti-psychological drugs stoopidity in Simpsons.
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> Thanks! I suspected, but never knew.
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> \*Well, repeated, at least-there’s at least 3 episodes

Here’s a robocall she did on behalf of scientology using Bart’s voice in parts.

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-boycott-an-artist-because-of-thier-behavior/512203/46 "2009-10-02T14:39:02Z")

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> [@LouisB](#):
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> I might watch Tom Cruise being burned at the stake but only if admission was free. I wouldn’t contribute in any way to his financial support. Not that he needs my money.

> [@Tequila\_Mockingbird](#):
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> I do what I can to make sure none of my money goes into [Victor Salva’s](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Salva)pocket. I don’t know if I’d call what he does art, but I still don’t want him getting any of my money.

Agreed on both of these, except it’s much harder walking away from Salva since I love all horror movies. But Cruise lost any support I might give him after that debacle with Brooke Shields. Idiot. Other than those two, I also skip the anti-semitic Gibson and anti-vac McCarthy (although that’s not hard – I wouldn’t watch stuff with her in it regardless).

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-boycott-an-artist-because-of-thier-behavior/512203/47 "2009-10-02T14:43:08Z")

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> [@Dogzilla](#):
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> Dave Mustaine/Megadeth (JW)

Did you listen to Megadeth _before_ Dave Mustaine was born again?

[QUOTE=Gleena]  
Because I have a child with a mental illness, I actively boycott Scientologists whenever I can.

Not even the Simpsons.

I stopped when they picketed the clinic to which I took my son. If I am at all able to stop it, they do not get my money.  
[/QUOTE]

Scientologists picket mental health facilities? 😕

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-boycott-an-artist-because-of-thier-behavior/512203/48 "2009-10-02T15:14:02Z")

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> [@Red\_Skeezix](#):
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> (Not sure if this counts)  
> I’ve pretty much stopped reading Orson Scott Card due to his views on homosexuality and same-sex marriage.

That’s what I came in to say. However, if he had ever been a favorite author and not just “okay in a pinch”, I might still read him. That’s why I don’t dig too deeply into the private lives of artists I really, really like. I don’t want to know.

TV and movies are different – there are many people involved besides the main actor or director, so boycotting them also boycotts the best boy, key grip, caterer, etc. I make an exception for anything Patricia Heaton is involved in though, or Anne Heche. I guess my principles are a bit flabby, but there ya go.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-boycott-an-artist-because-of-thier-behavior/512203/49 "2009-10-02T15:18:50Z")

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> [@AuntiePam](#):
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> … I make an exception for anything Patricia Heaton is involved in though, or Anne Heche. I guess my principles are a bit flabby, but there ya go.

What did THEY do?

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**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-boycott-an-artist-because-of-thier-behavior/512203/50 "2009-10-02T15:25:34Z")

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Ted Nugent. Of course, there are people that will respond that Cat Scratch Fever is not art, but until Ted turned right wing looney, it was among my favorite road trip songs.

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-boycott-an-artist-because-of-thier-behavior/512203/51 "2009-10-02T15:31:09Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> As my username indicates, I’m a big skier. There’s an amazing (or so I’ve been told) ski film called “The White Ecstasy” that stared Leni Riefenstahl which I’ve never been able to watch because of her other work. I just can’t bring myself to watch anything she’s been involved in.

It was made in 1931, before Hitler rose to power, so that particular film is not tainted by association with the Nazis. She really was a brilliant director.

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-boycott-an-artist-because-of-thier-behavior/512203/52 "2009-10-02T15:56:06Z")

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> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#):
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> Ted Nugent. Of course, there are people that will respond that Cat Scratch Fever is not art, but until Ted turned right wing looney, it was among my favorite road trip songs.

See, and now funnily enough, I don’t have as much of an issue with the right wing looney thing as I do with the fact that he took legal guardianship of a sixteen year old so he could bring her along and fuck her regularly while he was on tour.

Still wouldn’t boycott his music, but since I never bought his music anyway, it’s kind of a wash.

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-boycott-an-artist-because-of-thier-behavior/512203/53 "2009-10-02T16:16:59Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> What did THEY do?

Nothing that bad, really. Anne Heche because I see her as an opportunist, because of her relationship with Ellen. I could be wrong but it seemed to me like Heche used her – that she was just playing. Heaton – it’s not her politics as much as the way she comes across – inflexible, judgmental, your opinion isn’t worth as much as hers.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-boycott-an-artist-because-of-thier-behavior/512203/54 "2009-10-02T16:46:26Z")

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> [@DianaG](#):
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> See, and now funnily enough, I don’t have as much of an issue with the right wing looney thing as I do with the fact that he took legal guardianship of a sixteen year old so he could bring her along and fuck her regularly while he was on tour.
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> Still wouldn’t boycott his music, but since I never bought his music anyway, it’s kind of a wash.

Ha… I’ve got a _third_ reason for disliking Ted Nugent (and I’ve never bought any of his records but I do like his music) - he talked smack about late Pantera guitarist Dimebag Darrell Abbott after his death, even though Abbott described himself as a huge fan.

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**Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-boycott-an-artist-because-of-thier-behavior/512203/55 "2009-10-02T17:21:21Z")

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> [@gaffa](#):
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> It was made in 1931, before Hitler rose to power, so that particular film is not tainted by association with the Nazis. She really was a brilliant director.

And yet, I can’t bring myself to watch anything she’s associated with. I appreciate she was brilliant, but I can’t take any enjoyment from her work.

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**Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-boycott-an-artist-because-of-thier-behavior/512203/56 "2009-10-02T17:58:32Z")

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OSC is the closest I’ve come to boycotting an artist. Even then, it’s not so much a political statement, as it is that, having read his defense of his homophobia, I’ve lost any respect I had for him as an thinking person. If he just said, “God says it’s a sin, so I’m opposed,” I could deal with it. But instead he tries to come up with these secular reasons for hating gays that are just so idiotic, it makes my teeth hurt. Now when I read anything by him, I can’t stop thinking, “This guy’s a moron,” and it colors whatever I’m reading.

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**Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-boycott-an-artist-because-of-thier-behavior/512203/57 "2009-10-02T18:11:45Z")

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> [@Postariti](#):
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> It’s not that I formally “boycott” anyone. It’s not a matter of saying “I won’t support” them. I just lose interest in their work.
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> It’s like having a great friend you always enjoy spending time with. Then you find out that friend did something stupid or horrible. Suddenly you’d rather hang out with someone else.

This is my feeling as well, exactly. “Boycott” implies a level of conscious outraged avoidance that doesn’t really enter in to it. It’s not like I think Polanski or Allen give a shit if I personally buy a ticket to their movie or not. But I’d just prefer to spend my money and time elsewhere. And for me it’s Polanski, Allen, Cruise, and Mel Gibson. It’s not outrage, it’s just that their personal choices intrude on my consciousness too far to allow me to lose myself in their entertainment vehicles. FWIW, I can’t watch re-runs of _Hogan’s Heroes_ without thinking about how Bob Crane died. Same sort of deal here.

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**Author:** ![Dogzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@Dogzilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogzilla)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-boycott-an-artist-because-of-thier-behavior/512203/58 "2009-10-02T18:14:40Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Did you listen to Megadeth _before_ Dave Mustaine was born again?

Yes, I did. Loved ‘em. I thought Mustaine wrote brilliant lyrics. Not many metal bands write lyrics with that degree of depth. My friends and I considered Megadeth to be the Intellectuals’ Headbanging Band. :rolleyes: Okay, we were drunk when we declared that, but yes. I listened to Megadeth before the Mustaine conversion.

And I almost had to boycott Tool because the singer, Maynard James Keenan announced that he had also become a born again Christian. Then it turned out he was just pranking us for April Fool’s. Heh. 😃

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**Post date:** [October 3, 2009, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-boycott-an-artist-because-of-thier-behavior/512203/59 "2009-10-03T01:49:37Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> And yet, I can’t bring myself to watch anything she’s associated with. I appreciate she was brilliant, but I can’t take any enjoyment from her work.

I understand. I have a category of art that one enjoys while holding one’s nose. A huge amount of pre-WWII popular culture had a level of casual racism that is appalling to modern sensibilities - Windsor McKay’s “Little Nemo in Slumberland” is the most astounding comic ever drawn; but the depiction of [Africans as cannibals with giant lips and eyes](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/Little_Nemo_savages.jpg) is equally astounding.

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**Post date:** [October 3, 2009, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-boycott-an-artist-because-of-thier-behavior/512203/60 "2009-10-03T02:31:16Z")

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I’m a conservative and I don’t mind when people disagree. But I do object to stupid and hateful actions. But if I were to boycott everyone who made a stupid, hateful leftist remark, I wouldn’t be able to go many movies or concerts.

So I don’t think I boycott any artists.

OK, maybe Vanessa Redgrave for her support of the PLO.

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