# Ever hear of 21st Century Land Sand Sales? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [November 3, 2011, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-hear-of-21st-century-land-sand-sales/601730 "2011-11-03T10:44:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![nickspops](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4491bb/32.png) [@nickspops](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nickspops)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2011, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-hear-of-21st-century-land-sand-sales/601730/21 "2011-11-08T23:39:57Z")
I was contacted yesterday and today by these people and even though they want 2,495 to "list" my two lots in Lake Royale, everything seems legit, at least on the surface. They are saying they will send me out the paperwork and contracts to review and then if everything checks out by my attorney, I can send them the and they will sell my property. I know this is one of those “sounds too good to be true” scams, but I would really like to know if anyone has ever gone through with it and what were the results? Thanks, James ---
**Author:** ![cedman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@cedman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cedman)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-hear-of-21st-century-land-sand-sales/601730/22 "2011-11-09T02:21:57Z")
> [@depsce](#): > > I talked to Mike Kennedy today and it looks like he wants 1500 bucks for a marketing fee before I get any paperwork and that puts me on edge normally when someone buys the property closing costs are paid by the buyer. His response to that was would to just float it on a credit card ,and by the time you have to make a payment the deal will be closed . this to me sounds like a con artist so to anyone else out there I would have to say buyer beware. However, this thing could be legit but it really doesn’t sound like it. and as far as I’m concerned unless he just wants to send me a check and take the closing costs out of the purchase price the deal is off I was suggest you guys do the same thing my fellow lake royal people oh yeah i almost forgot he even said that he would add the closing cost back into the deal when i told him i was backing out then he came up with his software auto deleting me if i didnt pay him at least 500 dollars really suspicious. Yeah, BUT… if the deal takes longer than 30 days, you’ve lost the ability to dispute the charge on your credit card. At least that is the way my VISA works. Any delay over 30 days and your money is gone. ---
**Author:** ![cedman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@cedman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cedman)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-hear-of-21st-century-land-sand-sales/601730/23 "2011-11-09T02:23:49Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > I don’t know how things are done in your jurisdiction, but in my area, it’s common for serious buyers to attach a check to their offer sheet. For example, when I bid on my house, I paper-clipped a check for a thousand dollars to the offer. The money went into the broker’s escrow account and was credited against my deposit which I put down once we agreed on a price. If the deal had fallen through, the money would have been refunded to me. Attaching a check to the offer shows that you are serious and not just screwing around. > > So I would be tempted to insist that they put money up, even if it’s only a couple hundred dollars, in order to show they are serious and not just wasting your time. If it’s some kind of scam, they surely will not put up money. I think this seals the SCAM for me, the buyer always puts up some ernest money NOT the seller. ---
**Author:** ![cedman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@cedman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cedman)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-hear-of-21st-century-land-sand-sales/601730/24 "2011-11-09T02:26:42Z")
> [@nickspops](#): > > I was contacted yesterday and today by these people and even though they want 2,495 to "list" my two lots in Lake Royale, everything seems legit, at least on the surface. They are saying they will send me out the paperwork and contracts to review and then if everything checks out by my attorney, I can send them the and they will sell my property. > > I know this is one of those “sounds too good to be true” scams, but I would really like to know if anyone has ever gone through with it and what were the results? > > Thanks, > > James I asked for the paperwork to be sent to me so that my wife and I (and attorney) could review it and they sent me a brochure about how great their company is… I’ll not be doing business with them. I have the Florida Attorney General’s number. I will call and see if they have had anything surface on their radar. Maybe give them a heads up. ---
**Author:** ![depsce](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@depsce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/depsce)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-hear-of-21st-century-land-sand-sales/601730/25 "2011-11-09T06:12:39Z")
> [@astro](#): > > Just curious. Are they guaranteeing the property will go to closure for the $1500 or is that entirely your risk? yes, Mike Kennedy said the property would be guaranteed to go to closure ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-hear-of-21st-century-land-sand-sales/601730/26 "2011-11-09T19:19:30Z")
> [@depsce](#): > > yes, Mike Kennedy said the property would be guaranteed to go to closure Then tell them they can have their $1500 at the closing. I’m pretty confident they won’t agree to it, i.e. for some strange reason they don’t have confidence in their own guarantee. ---
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-hear-of-21st-century-land-sand-sales/601730/27 "2011-11-09T19:46:11Z")
> [@depsce](#): > > yes, Mike Kennedy said the property would be guaranteed to go to closure Great! Knock 2,000 off the price and ask him for the total; he can then resell it to the ‘guaranteed closure’. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-hear-of-21st-century-land-sand-sales/601730.md?page=1)