# Ever Hear of 'Astral Hearing' and 'Astral Sight'? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 24, 2021, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-hear-of-astral-hearing-and-astral-sight/942839 "2021-05-24T21:35:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jim\_B](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jim_b/32/4338_2.png) [@Jim\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_B)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-hear-of-astral-hearing-and-astral-sight/942839/1 "2021-05-24T21:35:44Z")
I actually read about it some time back, in a book on alternative medicine, of all places. Astral hearing and sight. It’s based on the notion, your body’s spirit or astral body can surely hear and see when it leaves your body. So why not use it, especially when you suffer from deafness or blindness? I was always skeptical of it. And I am even more skeptical now, especially since I am becoming more and more a staunch materialist. But it is interesting. And there have been alleged document cases of it. In particular, I saw a case on TV, when I was still quite young, possibly in grade or high school. There was this boy in another country, born without pupils. And because of an alleged miracle, he could now see. Me, I still don’t know. But I recall, he was smiling at the camera, almost as if he was seeing now. And is there anyone you know that could benefit from it now? Tell them about it. What’s the worst that could happen? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-hear-of-astral-hearing-and-astral-sight/942839/2 "2021-05-24T22:19:55Z")
No, but Astral Weeks is my favorite Van Morrison album! [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4ech6pZoBJ4/hqdefault.jpg "Van Morrison - Astral Weeks") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ech6pZoBJ4) ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-hear-of-astral-hearing-and-astral-sight/942839/3 "2021-05-24T22:27:09Z")
[Ooh, dream weaver.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZKuzwPOefs) ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-hear-of-astral-hearing-and-astral-sight/942839/4 "2021-05-24T22:34:24Z")
The worst that could happen is that they get their hopes up and waste a good deal of time and energy on a phenomenon for which there is no reliable evidence. Actually, that may not be the worst, they might end up giving astral “evidence” in a murder trial that condemns an innocent person to death (I have no preconceived notion that no judge or jury would ever countenance this kind of “evidence”). You don’t have to be a materialist to reject this notion out of hand, just a skeptic. Your sources for your apparent willingness to suspend your higher brain functions are laughable – you read a book once, and you once saw something on TV that you sort of remember where a blind child smiled, so maybe it’s true. Are there any reputable studies? Is there any experiment that could be replicated where this has proven to be true? Is there any evidence of any kind beyond wishful thinking? (spoiler - no.) Why not mind reading and bending spoons without touching them, while we’re at it? If you wish to appeal to the gullible, I think you may have picked the wrong environment. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-hear-of-astral-hearing-and-astral-sight/942839/5 "2021-05-24T23:26:38Z")
> [@Jim\_B](#): > > And there have been alleged document cases of it. > > In particular, I saw a case on TV, when I was still quite young, possibly in grade or high school. There was this boy in another country, born without pupils. And because of an alleged miracle, he could now see. Me, I still don’t know. But I recall, he was smiling at the camera, almost as if he was seeing now. That is not a document_ed_ case-that is a pretty much untraceable tale. if that is your standard when it comes to evidence, there isn’t much we can do to convince you. ---
**Author:** ![Jim\_B](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jim_b/32/4338_2.png) [@Jim\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_B)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-hear-of-astral-hearing-and-astral-sight/942839/6 "2021-05-25T01:15:14Z")
You know, this isn’t Great Debates or General Questions. It isn’t even IMHO. It is MPSIMS, which is meant for light-hearted banter. And funny things you want to share with people. No criticisms meant for any of you personally 🙂 . But speaking just of your replies, they are actually the ones are rather misplaced here. As I said, they would make more sense in a different part of the boards. I’m just saying. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-hear-of-astral-hearing-and-astral-sight/942839/7 "2021-05-25T01:20:54Z")
You brought up documentation, then as an example you gave us something that in no possible way qualified as documentation. ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-hear-of-astral-hearing-and-astral-sight/942839/8 "2021-05-25T01:20:59Z")
> [@Jim\_B](#): > > It is MPSIMS, which is meant for light-hearted banter. And funny things you want to share with people. In that case, I find the banter regarding Astral Hearing and Astral Sight light-hearted and wish to share this funny thing with others! In reality, if you don’t want people to push back on the woo that is posted in this forum, then you might as well post in GD and tell everyone that you’re witnessing. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-hear-of-astral-hearing-and-astral-sight/942839/9 "2021-05-25T01:22:03Z")
Dude, you’ve been here long enough to know how a thread like this is going to go. ---
**Author:** ![Ynnad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4491bb/32.png) [@Ynnad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ynnad)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-hear-of-astral-hearing-and-astral-sight/942839/10 "2021-05-25T01:22:33Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > … if that is your standard when it comes to evidence, there isn’t much we can do to convince you. **But they wouldn’t put it on TV if it wasn’t true!** ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-hear-of-astral-hearing-and-astral-sight/942839/11 "2021-05-25T01:25:56Z")
Sure, I know people who could “use it,” if it were an actual, real thing. A friend of mine has gone blind from complications of diabetes. My father is nearly deaf, due to aging, and hearing loss caused by driving an Army tank for three years. If “astral sight” and “astral hearing” were real, actual things, then of course it would be of tremendous benefit to them, among many other people. But, astral sight is up there with all sorts of other metaphysical/supernatural stuff that credulous or hopeful people _want_ to believe in, but usually wind up being methods for obtaining cash from the gullible. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-hear-of-astral-hearing-and-astral-sight/942839/12 "2021-05-25T01:59:28Z")
> [@Jim\_B](#): > > I actually read about it some time back, in a book on alternative medicine, of all places. Last place you’d think to look, right? I would have checked an ophthalmology textbook. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-hear-of-astral-hearing-and-astral-sight/942839/13 "2021-05-25T02:27:01Z")
Of course I’ve heard of astral hearing and astral sight. Used them myself, many times. My 8th level Elven magic-user was particularly good at both, and it got me out of some tight jams. Oh, the OP isn’t asking about D&D. Never mind. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-hear-of-astral-hearing-and-astral-sight/942839/14 "2021-05-25T03:19:00Z")
In related news, in case anyone here missed it, there’s going to be a total lunar eclipse on Wednesday morning (May 26). That’s going to be an astral sight! Details at: [Blood Moon 2021 – May Lunar Eclipse](https://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/lunar/2021-may-26) ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-hear-of-astral-hearing-and-astral-sight/942839/15 "2021-05-25T03:43:10Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > If you wish to appeal to the gullible, I think you may have picked the wrong environment. Amen. I’ve just got to ask if some people here wouldn’t be happier on sites that aren’t Fighting Ignorance… ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-hear-of-astral-hearing-and-astral-sight/942839/16 "2021-05-25T04:02:14Z")
Is there a GOOP forum? I fancy its motto might be _celebrating ignorance_. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-hear-of-astral-hearing-and-astral-sight/942839/17 "2021-05-25T04:13:44Z")
> [@Jim\_B](#): > > I was always skeptical of it. And I am even more skeptical now > [@Jim\_B](#): > > It’s based on the notion, your body’s spirit or astral body can surely hear and see when it leaves your body. So why not use it, especially when you suffer from deafness or blindness? > [@Jim\_B](#): > > And is there anyone you know that could benefit from it now? Tell them about it. What’s the worst that could happen? > [@Jim\_B](#): > > You know, this isn’t Great Debates or General Questions. It isn’t even IMHO. > > It is MPSIMS, which is meant for light-hearted banter. And funny things you want to share with people. Even in MPSIMS you can’t simultaneously encourage folks to tell their deaf and blind friends about this thing you don’t believe in, because what could go wrong, and claim you’re just sharing a funny thing with light-hearted banter. It’s grotesque. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-hear-of-astral-hearing-and-astral-sight/942839/18 "2021-05-25T04:18:18Z")
Is astral sight akin to remote viewing? Even the US Army and CIA spent a few million bucks trying to get that to work back in the Seventies. ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-hear-of-astral-hearing-and-astral-sight/942839/19 "2021-05-25T05:52:02Z")
Sedona AZ is pretty new age/woo. Every time we go through there I feel the need to get my aura photograph taken. Not so much because I’m into woo, but because Kirlian photography just sounds so cool. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-hear-of-astral-hearing-and-astral-sight/942839/20 "2021-05-25T21:21:18Z")
Modding: I can’t see, even astrally, any place this thread can go except down. Time to close it. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-hear-of-astral-hearing-and-astral-sight/942839.md?page=2)