# Ever meet a word whose definition surprises you?

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**Created:** [August 13, 2005, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-meet-a-word-whose-definition-surprises-you/316868 "2005-08-13T15:49:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![BarnOwl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e95f7d/32.png) [@BarnOwl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BarnOwl)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-meet-a-word-whose-definition-surprises-you/316868/1 "2005-08-13T15:49:10Z")

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In a crossword puzzle today, I ran into “puissant.” I’ve seen it before but never bothered to look it up. Today I did and it’s just about the opposite of what I thought it would be.

If you don’t know its definition take a guess. And then go to…

[http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=puissant&x=14&y=15](http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=puissant&x=14&y=15)

…for the answer.

If you do know, don’t spoil it. Give us instead a word whose meaning surprised you. Use spoilers if you want.

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**Author:** ![cabdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@cabdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cabdude)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-meet-a-word-whose-definition-surprises-you/316868/2 "2005-08-13T15:57:39Z")

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Yep - [surfeit](http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=surfeit) - I thought the definition was the exact opposite.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-meet-a-word-whose-definition-surprises-you/316868/3 "2005-08-13T16:03:18Z")

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Hell, just today I learned the meaning of [double-parked](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=330003). Talk about feeling like a right prat…

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-meet-a-word-whose-definition-surprises-you/316868/4 "2005-08-13T16:07:59Z")

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[Cuirass](http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cuirass)  
Pronounced Queer-Ass (at least that’s how I pronounce it, ya know, cuz it comes up in conversation so often)

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**Author:** ![Nic2004](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4491bb/32.png) [@Nic2004](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nic2004)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-meet-a-word-whose-definition-surprises-you/316868/5 "2005-08-13T16:18:52Z")

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[chauvinism](http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=chauvinist&x=17&y=19)  
When I first looked it up years ago there was no mention of the current usage. Many older dictionaries still read that way.

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**Author:** ![Future\_days](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cab0a1/32.png) [@Future\_days](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Future_days)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-meet-a-word-whose-definition-surprises-you/316868/6 "2005-08-13T16:49:56Z")

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> [@Nic2004](#):
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> [chauvinism](http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=chauvinist&x=17&y=19)  
> When I first looked it up years ago there was no mention of the current usage. Many older dictionaries still read that way.

Dont see how it’s any different tbh.

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**Author:** ![BarnOwl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e95f7d/32.png) [@BarnOwl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BarnOwl)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-meet-a-word-whose-definition-surprises-you/316868/7 "2005-08-13T17:09:02Z")

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> [@Future days](#):
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> Dont see how it’s any different tbh.

My guess is Nic2004 is referring to older dictionaries which perhaps didn’t mention male/female chauvinism.

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**Author:** ![Electronic\_Chaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Electronic\_Chaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Electronic_Chaos)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-meet-a-word-whose-definition-surprises-you/316868/8 "2005-08-13T17:29:48Z")

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> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#):
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> Hell, just today I learned the meaning of [double-parked](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=330003). Talk about feeling like a right prat…
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> Daniel

Don’t worry, I always have heard it/used it as “taking up more than one parking space” as well.

Maybe it’s a southern thing.  
Or a Daniel thing.

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**Author:** ![TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-meet-a-word-whose-definition-surprises-you/316868/9 "2005-08-13T17:58:23Z")

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I’ve always thought and used “high-concept” to mean “something with a very complicated or convoluted concept to the point that the concept actually overwhelms the execution” - aka, a Chef who serves one postage stamp-sized sliver of meat with an eyedropper of sauce and calls it “steak,” or a filmmaker whose avant-garde biopic of Johnny Cash consists of three hours of footage of a goat wandering an abandoned factory.

Turns out, it means the _exact_ opposite - it means something with a very simplistic concept that can be easily summed up in one sentence and appeals to a mass audience.

In fact, I’d been meaning to start this thread…

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-meet-a-word-whose-definition-surprises-you/316868/10 "2005-08-13T18:07:24Z")

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I was surprised by this definition for “kidney”

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> kid-ney (kid’nee) n. pl. \<-neys\>  
> 1. one of a pair of organs in the rear of  
> the upper abdominal cavity of  
> vertebrates that filter waste from the  
> blood, excrete uric acid or urea, and  
> maintain water and electrolyte balance.  
> 2. any similar structure in invertebrates.  
> 3. the meat of an animal’s kidney used as  
> food.  
> \*\* 4. constitution or temperament.\*\*  
> 5. kind; sort: to associate only with people  
> of one’s own kidney.

I used to think (why I can’t recall) that “penultimate” was the absolute tippy top of something instead of

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> pe-nul-ti-mate (pi nul’tuh mit) adj.  
> 1. \*\* next to the last.\*\*  
> 2. of or pertaining to a penult.  
> n.  
> 3. PENULT.

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-meet-a-word-whose-definition-surprises-you/316868/11 "2005-08-13T18:30:04Z")

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> [@cabdude](#):
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> Yep - [surfeit](http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=surfeit) - I thought the definition was the exact opposite.

Hmmm, it turns out I have surfeited the web and need to go lie down. Thanks, **cabdude** , for giving me my word of the day. 🙂

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-meet-a-word-whose-definition-surprises-you/316868/12 "2005-08-13T18:48:45Z")

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Does any other Britisher see the word “surfeit” and think immediately of [lampreys](http://cunnan.sca.org.au/wiki/Henry_I)?

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-meet-a-word-whose-definition-surprises-you/316868/13 "2005-08-13T20:06:39Z")

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> [@E = mc²](#):
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> My guess is Nic2004 is referring to older dictionaries which perhaps didn’t mention male/female chauvinism.

Doesnt matter, the chauvinist part still means the same as it always has.

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**Author:** ![seosamh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@seosamh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seosamh)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-meet-a-word-whose-definition-surprises-you/316868/14 "2005-08-13T20:23:45Z")

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I’ve always liked the word MALLEMAROKING - defined in Chambers dictionary as “carousing of seamen in icebound ships”. Its etymology is bonkers as well: from the Dutch _mallemerok_, a romping woman - itself from _mal_, foolish, and _marok_, from French _marotte_, a favoured object.

The next word in the dictionary is similarly odd: MALLEMUCK - the fulmar or similar bird; also from _mal_, foolois, plus _mok_, a gull.

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-meet-a-word-whose-definition-surprises-you/316868/15 "2005-08-13T20:35:01Z")

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> [@parthenokinesis](#):
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> Hmmm, it turns out I have surfeited the web and need to go lie down.

You’ve surfeited the web, or it has surfeited you?

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-meet-a-word-whose-definition-surprises-you/316868/16 "2005-08-13T20:45:56Z")

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**Astro**  
Don’t forget to look up the the word _ante_penultimate.

2 words that don’t sound like their definitions:

**mollify** - Sounds like the act of picking up a sledge hammer and destroying things. _"I’m gonna mollify this $%#@_&^^% computer".\*  
Actually it means to soothe.

**enervated** Seems as if it means to be filled with enrgy.  
Actually it means to be depleted of energy.

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**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-meet-a-word-whose-definition-surprises-you/316868/17 "2005-08-13T20:57:14Z")

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> [@bluecanary](#):
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> Does any other Britisher see the word “surfeit” and think immediately of [lampreys](http://cunnan.sca.org.au/wiki/Henry_I)?

No

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-meet-a-word-whose-definition-surprises-you/316868/18 "2005-08-13T21:12:09Z")

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Here’s one:

Main Entry: pe·ruse  
Pronunciation: p&-'rüz  
Function: transitive verb  
Inflected Form(s): pe·rused; pe·rus·ing  
Etymology: Middle English, to use up, deal with in sequence, from Latin per- thoroughly + Middle English usen to use  
1 **a** : to examine or consider with attention and in detail : STUDY  
**b** : to look over or through in a casual or cursory manner

So which is it? a) or b) 😕

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-meet-a-word-whose-definition-surprises-you/316868/19 "2005-08-13T21:27:21Z")

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Many years ago, I was surprised to learn that [fulsome](http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=fulsome) has a negative connotation. It sounds so hearty and pleasant.

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2005, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-meet-a-word-whose-definition-surprises-you/316868/20 "2005-08-13T21:38:34Z")

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It’s both a) and b) **Quicksilver**. You’re studying the item, but sort of casually. Like when I’m shopping and looking over a handbag because it’s cute. Maybe I want it, maybe not, depending upon what I find while perusing the handbag.

_Metaphysics_ always gets me. I expect equations and that’s not necessarily so.

The original meaning of _slut_ was a surprise. \*Slut’s wool \* brought up some interesting mental images before I learned slut had to do with poor housekeeping.

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