# Ever read/hear a story about a trend among Americans and find yourself just the opposite?

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**Created:** [May 18, 2017, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-read-hear-a-story-about-a-trend-among-americans-and-find-yourself-just-the-opposite/786969 "2017-05-18T23:59:05Z")\
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> [@jtur88](#):
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> it ws delicious, and for me, harmless, even unpasteurized.

Now that some time went by, yeah, probably harmless. You didn’t know that beforehand.

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> And so did everybody else in the country where I happened to be. A country where over 90% of the population is lactose intolerant as adults.

What country and why is lactose intolerance something relevant? Do you believe drinking the milk unpasteurized allowed those with lactose intolerance to do so without issues?

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I’m tragically out of fashion.

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> [@x-ray\_vision](#):
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> The original post was the OP’s contribution regarding the thread title. I don’t think The OP was looking for a discussion about milk.

Right–or more precisely, not _just_ a discussion about milk.

> [@Velocity](#):
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> I am a Millennial and I have yet to use Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, etc.

What about Facebook?

> [@Procrustus](#):
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> The most unfathomable is when I hear that _Dancing with the Stars_ if popular. I’m not saying I’m better than other Americans, but I constantly am reminded I’m different. (Okay, I am better than those who watch Dancing with the Stars) (kidding)

I’m with you there. And that despite the fact that although I never would have predicted it, I did become a fan of So You Think You Can Dance for three or four seasons after my wife roped me into it. But that seems a little more serious/legitimate. Oh well, de gustibus. I suppose DWTS is not really supposed to be taken seriously, or they wouldn’t have the ridiculous celebrities they do.

> [@DeepLiquid](#):
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> As for milk/dairy, there’s a gallon of whole milk, a pound of butter, a quart of full fat unsweetened greek yogurt, and several types of cheese in the fridge right now.

Wow, our fridges sound like identical twins! I wonder, are you and the other big milk/dairy users predominantly of Northern European ancestry like I am?

> [@FairyChatMom](#):
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> And I will have a glass of milk if I’ve got cake or brownies, or maybe cookies. However, I haven’t baked any goodies in ages, so I don’t know how long it’s been since I had milk that wasn’t in a recipe or over cereal. This thread has made me want cereal - off to the kitchen with me.

Oh yeah, your post of the one after yours reminds me of those Got Milk? Commercials. You people who don’t drink glasses of milk are seriously immune to the need for a glass if you have a brownie or a chocolate chip cookie? That is unthinkable to me and why I thought those were some of the most genius commercials ever.

> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Various parts of my body are still recovering from the “tight pants and shirts for men” thing circa 2015, a trend I should have started ignoring sooner than I did.

LOL!

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I’m very far from a luddite but social media in general leaves me cold. It is so all-pervasive but I’ve never been tempted as I never saw a need for it at the beginning and the bigger it gets the greater the disincentive for me.

But as a family we probably get though 10 litres of full-fat milk a week. That grey, insipid low-fat stuff can kiss my arse.

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ever-read-hear-a-story-about-a-trend-among-americans-and-find-yourself-just-the-opposite/786969/45 "2017-05-20T10:34:59Z")

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I haven’t drunk milk in decades. We don’t keep it in the house except for specific recipes.

When I watch the news, or read up on pop culture, I realize I don’t access Twitter or Facebook, will not use Siri or an Echo, haven’t watched a reality show since Real World San Francisco, and I know maybe 1% of the people that might be described at Internet Famous.

So the trend of shifting one’s life more fully online makes me feel like an outsider, an old guy choosing to not keep up with the times. Fine by me.

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> I haven’t drunk milk in decades. We don’t keep it in the house except for specific recipes.

When I need cow milk for a recipe, I buy the smallest container that will provide for my need, then any dump out what’s left. My gf drinks milk, but it has to be skim. She avoids drinking her milk in front of me, since it grosses me out.

For things like oatmeal, waffles, granola, etc I use soymilk.

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> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> I’m very far from a luddite but social media in general leaves me cold.

And what makes you exclude the SDMB from being social media?

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> Wow, our fridges sound like identical twins! I wonder, are you and the other big milk/dairy users predominantly of Northern European ancestry like I am?

Interesting question, I am of Irish and French descent (second generation American). We went through 8-10 gallons of milk a week in our house when I was a child, and my parents cooked with cheese constantly.

> [@WordMan](#):
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> So the trend of shifting one’s life more fully online makes me feel like an outsider, an old guy choosing to not keep up with the times. Fine by me.

I feel the same, at some point I’ll just be that “weird old lady”.

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Went to breakfast with a friend of mine and she ordered a glass of milk. I was surprised because it seemed so unusual for someone in their early 50’s.

My own weird thing is about beer. For hanging out at home the cheep light beer is just fine and preferable. Oh, I have a case of good stuff chillin right now because we have company coming, but otherwise, it’s usually the cheep stuff.

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> And what makes you exclude the SDMB from being social media?

Ummm, the fact that we’re just barely sociable here?

Seriously, I pride myself in saying “Oh, sorry, I’m not on social media.”  
If someone countered with “The Dope counts!” they’d get a Wilhelm Scream. Or a Darth Vader “Nooooo…!”

> [@enipla](#):
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> My own weird thing is about beer. For hanging out at home the cheep light beer is just fine and preferable. Oh, I have a case of good stuff chillin right now because we have company coming, but otherwise, it’s usually the cheep stuff.

_“Life’s Too Short To Drink Cheep Beer.”_

(previous aphorism presented as a case in point supporting non-social nature of this board)  
ETA something on topic: I spoon a lot of cow’s milk. I never drink it, but cereal is my favorite breakfast and snack.

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> I’d be interested in knowing the milk drinking habits of people who live in cities/use public transportation versus those who do their grocery shopping using their own vehicle.
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> I feel like if NPR did their interviews further out in to suburbia, they might get different answers than they got in downtown DC.
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> I mean, no doubt there are plenty of people who get their groceries via their own vehicle who still don’t drink milk (I’m assuming a bunch of non-milk-drinkers who already replied here take their cars to buy groceries) but it also seems like the inconvenience of getting milk from the store could be a deciding factor for people living in the city.

We live in NYC and do our grocery shopping on foot for our family of four. I’m the big milk drinker (coffee, cereal and the occasional recipe) and usually get quart containers because anything larger occasionally spoils before I finish. Everybody else drinks soy product. If there’s going to be heavy or overly bulky stuff we bring along a folding cart. Plus we shop pretty much every day.

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> And what makes you exclude the SDMB from being social media?

Well, it isn’t is it? I don’t use it for any social purpose, just anonymous debate on topics of interest.

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> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> Well, it isn’t is it? I don’t use it for any social purpose, just anonymous debate on topics of interest.

Technically, I would say, yes absolutely it is, but I understand that you mean things like Facebook, Google Plus, Twitter, Instagram, etc.

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Last full glass of milk I had was about a week ago. I drink about two a week. If you count Starbucks concoctions, it’s about seven glasses a week.

I love to laugh in the face of death.

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I tried a couple of times in the 80’s to drink a glass of milk, due to the whole “does a body good” campaign. Never could struggle through more than two sips though. I love cheese and cream and sour cream and cottage cheese and cream cheese, but milk is gross. I used to buy a gallon of whole a week while the kids were small, but now its just a half gallon now and then for some recipes.

I make gallons of unsweetened iced tea in rotating flavors and keep those in the fridge for drinking.

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> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> Well, it isn’t is it? I don’t use it for any social purpose, just anonymous debate on topics of interest.

Message boards ore social in nature. But they are a huge step above the likes of Facebook or Instagram. Because at least on MBs, you’re having a back and fourth conversation.

Conversations can happen on FB too, but they seem to be less frequent and more about “look at me” or “check this funny video out” etc… YMMV.

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> Message boards ore social in nature. But they are a huge step above the likes of Facebook or Instagram. Because at least on MBs, you’re having a back and fourth conversation.
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> Conversations can happen on FB too, but they seem to be less frequent and more about “look at me” or “check this funny video out” etc… YMMV.

Agreed, and as message boards seem to be slowly fading away, we’re left with “short attention span theater”. I much prefer this sort of interaction, and hope places like SDMB remain.

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> [@DeepLiquid](#):
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> Agreed, and as message boards seem to be slowly fading away, we’re left with “short attention span theater”. I much prefer this sort of interaction, and hope places like SDMB remain.

I agree too, For all that we bicker and squabble, the level of debate is usually pretty damn high and people do take the time to actually explore the subject in some depth.  
People do have their minds changed and their horizons broadened here, not sure that happens too often on twitter.

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My household easily consumes a gallon of whole cow’s milk per day. My daughter consumes milk more than anything else combined.

Personally, I would drink a lot more milk if it were lower in carbs. That’s the main reason I will use nut “milk,” not due to fat or dairy content or anything. Sometimes I drink heavy cream.

I don’t really eat cereal, but I never put milk in it. I consume a lot of tea and don’t put anything in it. Cream goes in coffee, if anything.

As far as trends go, I’m not very trendy but I don’t think I particularly go against trends, either.

ETA: On Social Media, I think people (and brands, since I do this professionally) who “get” social media use it for conversations, also. I also like reading and discovering content, especially twitter. I use Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Pinterest, Youtube, and Google Plus professionally but not much personally.

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> [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](#):
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> On Social Media, I think people (and brands, since I do this professionally) who “get” social media use it for conversations, also. I also like reading and discovering content, especially twitter. I use Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Pinterest, Youtube, and Google Plus professionally but not much personally.

Yeah, some of the comments I see against social media make me think that the people saying this stuff either haven’t actually experienced social media directly, or they have a really shitty feed.

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