# Everlast vs. Eminem: What other rapper lyric wars are going on that I can follow? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 4, 2011, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everlast-vs-eminem-what-other-rapper-lyric-wars-are-going-on-that-i-can-follow/573523 "2011-03-04T21:43:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![No\_Wikipedia\_Cites](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@No\_Wikipedia\_Cites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/No_Wikipedia_Cites)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everlast-vs-eminem-what-other-rapper-lyric-wars-are-going-on-that-i-can-follow/573523/1 "2011-03-04T21:43:31Z")
I heard recently about the Everlast & Eminem lyric war “Whitey’s revenge” and thought it was hilarious. > [@](#): > > Everlast responded with the track “Whitey’s Revenge,” released only on his official website. Whereas the song contained references to Eminem’s strained relationships with his wife and mother, it was “Better run and check your kid for your DNA”, again referring to Eminem’s daughter, Hailie Jade Mathers, that set Eminem off.[2] > > [3] Eminem & D12 responded with “Quitter,” the second half of which is a take off on 2Pac’s “Hit 'Em Up” (a diss song aimed at The Notorious B.I.G.).[4] In it, he warns Everlast, “If you talk about my little girl in a song again I’ma kill you.” T Are there any other similar lyric wars that have happened with other rappers? I mean witty ones, both Everlast and Enimem had some GREAT poetical attacks. I’m not into rap that much, but this was priceless. ---
**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everlast-vs-eminem-what-other-rapper-lyric-wars-are-going-on-that-i-can-follow/573523/2 "2011-03-05T01:09:40Z")
I think Nas and Jay Z had something going for a while. ---
**Author:** ![Top\_Hat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b487fb/32.png) [@Top\_Hat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Top_Hat)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everlast-vs-eminem-what-other-rapper-lyric-wars-are-going-on-that-i-can-follow/573523/3 "2011-03-05T08:33:05Z")
I like both their tunes, both good beats, both tight diss… ---
**Author:** ![davidw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c4cdca/32.png) [@davidw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidw)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everlast-vs-eminem-what-other-rapper-lyric-wars-are-going-on-that-i-can-follow/573523/4 "2011-03-05T14:35:19Z")
I always liked “Whitey’s Revenge.” When he says > [@](#): > > Or if you go to prison while you’re doin’ your bid > I’ll look in on your lady and do things for your kid > Make her write you lots of letters about the things that we did > And send you pictures of me chillin’ all up in your crib That’s just cold. But as for your question, there are hundreds of these rap wars. The most famous, of course, was Tupac vs. B.I.G., which spilled over into real life. There’s a [documentary series called Beef](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beef_%28documentary%29) that gives an overview of a lot of these wars. As to specific beefs, tr0psn4j mentioned Nas vs. Jay Z. Listen to “Takeover” by Jay Z and “Ether” by Nas for the best songs from that beef. (plus, Nas’ “The Last Real Nigga Alive” gives the story of their rivalry from Nas’ point of view.) You might enjoy LL Cool J vs. Canibus. Listen to “4,3,2,1” by LL Cool J (LL disses Canibus in the final verse), then “2nd Round KO” by Canibus. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everlast-vs-eminem-what-other-rapper-lyric-wars-are-going-on-that-i-can-follow/573523/5 "2011-03-05T15:17:49Z")
And then The Ripper Strikes Back, which is LL Cool J’s response, and which I kind of think was the end of that, winner-and-loser-wise. And the title to that song is a reference to Jack the Ripper, which was part of a [fairly spectacular feud](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LL_Cool_J_vs._Kool_Moe_Dee_feud) with Kool Moe Dee. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everlast-vs-eminem-what-other-rapper-lyric-wars-are-going-on-that-i-can-follow/573523/6 "2011-03-05T16:27:21Z")
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6H0i1RAdHk](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6H0i1RAdHk) is my favorite. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everlast-vs-eminem-what-other-rapper-lyric-wars-are-going-on-that-i-can-follow/573523/7 "2011-03-05T17:14:19Z")
Don’t forget one of the first (if not _the_ first) - UTFO’s song “[Roxanne, Roxanne](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOTp3-jEMjQ)” and the response from a female rapper named [Roxanne Shante](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9IFs13w_JQ). ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everlast-vs-eminem-what-other-rapper-lyric-wars-are-going-on-that-i-can-follow/573523/8 "2011-03-05T17:23:43Z")
Tupac v. Biggie ? ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everlast-vs-eminem-what-other-rapper-lyric-wars-are-going-on-that-i-can-follow/573523/9 "2011-03-05T17:28:21Z")
Well, Professor Elemental has issued a challenge to Mr. B the Gentleman Rhymer, although I do not believe Mr. B has yet lowered himself to respond. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/0iRTB-FTMdk/maxresdefault.jpg "Fighting Trousers - Professor Elemental") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iRTB-FTMdk) ---
**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everlast-vs-eminem-what-other-rapper-lyric-wars-are-going-on-that-i-can-follow/573523/10 "2011-03-05T19:50:25Z")
If you liked the Em/Everlast thing, look for Eminem’s lyrics about DJ Lethal, “If you’re scared of Whitey Ford, just say you’re scared of Whitey Ford…” and D12’s lyrics about Fred Durst. ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everlast-vs-eminem-what-other-rapper-lyric-wars-are-going-on-that-i-can-follow/573523/11 "2011-03-05T20:03:55Z")
Didn’t Eminem have a thing with Jermaine Dupree for a while? ---
**Author:** ![DooWahDiddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e9bcb4/32.png) [@DooWahDiddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DooWahDiddy)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everlast-vs-eminem-what-other-rapper-lyric-wars-are-going-on-that-i-can-follow/573523/12 "2011-03-05T20:36:31Z")
They’re not rappers, but apparently Ben Folds’ song “[Brainwascht](http://www.metrolyrics.com/brainwascht-lyrics-ben-folds.html)” is directed towards a husband and wife team called Fleming and John. They apparently (I use that word again because I mean, really, who knows) target Ben in a song called “Wrong”, in which they say: \*I thought you were the kind of friend I’d have until the bitter end I’d follow you around the world And back again I thought you had integrity I thought you loved your family I thought that you were everything I wanted to be But I was wrong I was wrong But I was wrong about you… about you…\* Ben Folds fires back with this, with the background vocals in parentheses: - If you wanna write a letter, write a letter If you’d rather make a phone call, pick up the phone up and call me But if you had to say it all with a pop song, couldn’t you at least have written me a good one? … If you’ve gotta write an essay, do your research (If you gotta) Stick your nose in a boy and girl fight, hear both sides first There’s something wrong being copied on a memo in the form of a bad country demo Isn’t there something in the Bible about forgiveness and love And more importantly about those stones and what your house is made of You might reflect upon your own arrangement In ‘94 gettin’ blown in your basement (while your wife slept) (Integrity… family… online rhyming dictionary…) \* I think Ben wins. 😛