# "Every now and then you come across somebody you shouldn't have F\*\*\*ed with

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**Created:** [October 18, 2011, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/every-now-and-then-you-come-across-somebody-you-shouldnt-have-f-ed-with/599987 "2011-10-18T01:08:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bosstrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Bosstrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstrain)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/every-now-and-then-you-come-across-somebody-you-shouldnt-have-f-ed-with/599987/41 "2011-10-18T21:58:47Z")

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All these are great, I’ve been reading them instead of doing what I should be doing right now :smack::D.

This is an incident that didn’t happen to me really so I hope it counts, either way the story will make you want to cheer, and at the same time you’ll learn to never fuck with an old guy :D:

There was this very old gentlemen walking down the sidewalk, I say walking, but it was more like hobbling due to his age, this guy could’ve easily been 90. As he makes his way along very slowly, these two young punks stroll up and start talking to him. At first it seemed innocent enough, but then they started struggling, I think they were trying to rob him but it wasn’t going smoothly, he wasn’t going down without a fight. One would think someone that age would simply give in knowing it’s better to lose a little cash or something than resist, either that or he figured now was a good time as any to kick the proverbial bucket. Well it was just a few quick seconds later he got some distance between himself and the assailants, and seeing this level of resistance from the guy the pair must have decided they needed to beat him into submission. So as they raised their fists to start swinging, the old goat put his up in a very classic, old school, cartoon style with his fists directly in front of his face. Anyone could see him to be outmatched, not only were there two attackers, but they were both many times younger and far stronger. However, this didn’t phaze the man, I’m not even sure if the guy cared at all, anyone could look in his eyes at that moment and start hearing the “Eye of the Tiger” in their head, and I’m sure all he was thinking was ‘you ain’t gettin my money you fuckers’. Half a heartbeat later he starts givin’ it to ‘em, his fists flying out like two freakin Jack In the Box’s, only these were boxing ones :D. One after the other, he starts landing blows on the next one as the other staggers back, keeping his elbows together and smackin’ 'em on their kissers with his knuckles. I’m not sure how many times he hit those punks but I’m here to tell you it was a lot, and he wasn’t holding back, nor did his strikes seem weak in any way. Effectively he kept them at bay until finally they decided to retreat, bloody noses and all.

Naturally I made this sound drawn out merely to describe how purely awesome it was, but actually the whole ordeal only lasted a very short amount of time. He may have caught them off-guard since they didn’t expect such an onslaught, but by the time assistance showed up, the punks had had more than enough. The guy still wanted to fight even after they ran away, his deadly weapons circling in the air as he looked on with those cold, steely eyes…I can still hear that song whenever I think about it…

[Risin’ up, back on the street  
Did my time, took my chances  
Went the distance, now I’m back on my feet  
Just a man and his will to survive…]

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/every-now-and-then-you-come-across-somebody-you-shouldnt-have-f-ed-with/599987/42 "2011-10-18T22:20:41Z")

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Thats damn funny Bosstrain. That old man needs to get a job at McDonalds 🙂

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**Author:** ![pullin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c57346/32.png) [@pullin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pullin)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/every-now-and-then-you-come-across-somebody-you-shouldnt-have-f-ed-with/599987/43 "2011-10-19T01:01:59Z")

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> [@Baffle](#):
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> So you ended up taking a guy who was probably otherwise a functioning member of society and completely destroyed his life? Yeah, that seems like a fair trade for the ding in your truck. And you’re even proud of it.
> 
> Your actions helped take an educated, employable man and made him into a homeless drunk. You go ahead and gloat all you want, but realize your actions cost society a lot more than his ever did.

We were his fourth victim. And I’m an ex-EMT/Ambulance driver who’s pulled a few of their broken victims out of the wreckage.

Drive safe,  
pullin

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/every-now-and-then-you-come-across-somebody-you-shouldnt-have-f-ed-with/599987/44 "2011-10-19T01:22:38Z")

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> [@pullin](#):
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> We were his fourth victim. And I’m an ex-EMT/Ambulance driver who’s pulled a few of their broken victims out of the wreckage.

Good for you. Maybe there won’t be a 5th victim for this guy, if he really hits bottom and decides to change.

I had a patient today who was entering prison after his 5th DUI conviction. On his 5th arrest, he not only drove drunk, but hit a teen on a bike. The kid got some bad road rash and a broken arm, and recovered fully, but still…

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**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/every-now-and-then-you-come-across-somebody-you-shouldnt-have-f-ed-with/599987/45 "2011-10-19T01:32:44Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> I had a patient today who was entering prison after his 5th DUI conviction. On his 5th arrest, he not only drove drunk, but hit a teen on a bike. The kid got some bad road rash and a broken arm, and recovered fully, but still…

Good Dr. Qadgop, just for SaG’s, how many times would you estimate that YOU personally drove a motor vehicle under the influence of drugs and/or alcohol, until you finally managed to get your head together/sober up?

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**Author:** ![Lancia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lancia/32/17174_2.png) [@Lancia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lancia)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/every-now-and-then-you-come-across-somebody-you-shouldnt-have-f-ed-with/599987/46 "2011-10-19T02:08:07Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> I was driving home with a friend late one night when a car, presumably full of teenagers, passed us illegally and at great speed. I guess they didn’t notice that the car right behind them was a cop car. Busted!

Years ago my wife and I were driving her friend home after she had visited for the weekend. We were on a straight stretch of two-lane highway, only a couple of miles from her friends house. There was a line of four cars, with us third from the front. The first car wasn’t being slow; the first three of us were spread out and the fourth was riding our tail. Once we were on this straight stretch, asshole behind us decides he is going to pass _all of us._ at the end if the straight was a gentle curve, and just as asshole is right past us – with two more cars to pass – a county sheriff’s cruiser comes around the corner. Now, this idiot didn’t pull back into our lane. If he would have he would have been fine. Nope, he floors it, apparently not realizing it was a cop coming in the other direction. Cop pulls over to the shoulder, and waits. Idiot finally passes the lead car and pulls back into the right lane. By this time all four of us are past the cop. Cop does a u turn, and goes after him.

We get to my wife’s friend’s house, chat for half an hour or so, say goodbye and leave. Returning home, cop _still_ has this dude pulled over, but this time there’s a state trooper there as well. Around here usually means drugs were found, and a big load at that.

I’m guessing the genius who decided to pass three cars while a cop was coming in the other direction was slapping himself silly that night. Well, only if one of his cellmates wasn’t doing that for him.

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**Author:** ![Lancia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lancia/32/17174_2.png) [@Lancia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lancia)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/every-now-and-then-you-come-across-somebody-you-shouldnt-have-f-ed-with/599987/47 "2011-10-19T02:29:20Z")

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> [@miss\_elizabeth](#):
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> Oh! I have a story that only a little bit fits, but it’s great so I’m posting it.
> 
> A few years ago the SO and I went to the grocery store, and were walking towards the entrance. As we walked through the parking lot, we saw a car with two middle age women waiting while a car backed out so they could pull into the spot. As soon as the car backing out got clear, a car being driven by a cocky teenager flew up and drove into the spot; stealing the spot from the middle age women.
> 
> Unfortunately, in order to pull off this “badass” move, the car was going way too fast, and the cocky teenager rammed into the car in front of them, smashing it up pretty good. Of course, this paragon of human virtue tried to flee the scene, but the middle age women followed him. As he drove out of the lot, I heard them scream, “You tried to steal our spot, you dumb motherfucker, but we have your license number!!”
> 
> We went in to do our shopping, and when we came out, the two ladies were standing by the smashed car with it’s owner and a police car, happily giving all the info necessary to find the punk ass kid.
> 
> He really shouldn’t have stolen their spot.

Oh, God, this reminds me of another one. I come home from work one night and there is a business card in the doorjam. 😕 The card was from a sgt. with the local city cops. On the back was a handwritten note: “Mr. [Lancia], you need to call the number on the front of this card, and speak with me immediately”.

_What the FUCK?!_ I have never had so much as a speeding ticket, ever, so I was understandably worried. So I called the number. Talked to the cop. Turns out he was looking for my brother. My brother had put down my address when he got charged with possession of pot a few years ago. I never knew this. One day my brother’s girlfriend, who is driving his car, gets in a fender bender in a parking lot and hotfoots it out of there, failing to realise someone copied down the plate number. Cops run the plate, find my brother’s name at my address, and pay me a visit. God, I was pissed.

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**Author:** ![Cryptic\_C62](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Cryptic\_C62](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cryptic_C62)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/every-now-and-then-you-come-across-somebody-you-shouldnt-have-f-ed-with/599987/48 "2011-10-19T02:57:49Z")

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> Doing a Corporate Valuation course, one of the projects was to form teams, and, over the course of a week or two, negotiate the strike price for an IPO with another team. My team was the Bank, the other team the Corp. The goal for the bank is to get the lowest price possible, the corp, the highest price. In any case, the lowest score goes to any group who can’t make a deal.
> 
> First meeting, we play a little footsie over who will give their estimate first, so our team proposes to write both numbers down and pass them across. The other team says “no, you’re the bank, you work for us, you’re the experts, give us a number” So we lowball them. They act all outraged and storm out. A couple of minutes later they come back, we have some fruitless discussion and one of them gives us his card to call later. My teammate tears the card up in front of him and throws it in the trash.
> 
> Fast forward to the class where we hand in our results, we have two documents in hand, one with “no deal” and one with a blank space. We place the “no deal” document on the teacher’s desk before the class starts and wait. They come up to us and ask to talk in the hall, we hammer out a deal right quick, got ourselves an A.

…so where’s the interesting part?

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/every-now-and-then-you-come-across-somebody-you-shouldnt-have-f-ed-with/599987/49 "2011-10-19T03:14:42Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> So there I was, driving drunk, and some moron had his USB hub out on the sidewalk. I ran over that fucker!
> 
> No one messes with me.

Priceless, thanks.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/every-now-and-then-you-come-across-somebody-you-shouldnt-have-f-ed-with/599987/50 "2011-10-19T03:35:14Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> Bravo.
> 
> One of my patients threatened one of my nurses recently.
> 
> He’s in the segregation unit now. From there he may go to supermax.
> 
> You do **not** f\*\*k with _ **my** _ nurses.

And every doctor around here is going to be green with envy.

> [@Baffle](#):
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> Your actions helped take an educated, employable man and made him into a homeless drunk. You go ahead and gloat all you want, but realize your actions cost society a lot more than his ever did.

Best username/post ever!

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/every-now-and-then-you-come-across-somebody-you-shouldnt-have-f-ed-with/599987/51 "2011-10-19T04:23:07Z")

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> [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](#):
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> Good Dr. Qadgop, just for SaG’s, how many times would you estimate that YOU personally drove a motor vehicle under the influence of drugs and/or alcohol, until you finally managed to get your head together/sober up?

:rolleyes: After all this time, I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised over posters who espouse outlandish opinions, seemingly just to be contrary.

Anybody who has been arrested for DUI five times, caused an injury to a person, and still hasn’t wised up should be locked away for a long time. I’ve never been pulled over for DUI, or had an accident after drinking,but that didn’t make it right for me or for anyone else. And if I had ever been arrested for DUI, or run into somebody, it would have been right for me to have been prosecuted. I wouldn’t have expected to get a pass, whether for one DUI, or for five. And what’s right for me should be right for anyone else. I was very fortunate to have never gotten into trouble after having had too much to drink, but I accept there would be consequences if I have. That was in the past, and I have not driven under the influence for decades. One is not like the other.

Speaking only for myself and not for **QtheM** , of course.

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**Author:** ![Triskadecamus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@Triskadecamus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Triskadecamus)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/every-now-and-then-you-come-across-somebody-you-shouldnt-have-f-ed-with/599987/52 "2011-10-19T04:28:13Z")

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I am not a dangerous man.

Once upon a time, I was insane. This was before I got better. I was very confused, very angry, and almost unable to speak. I was homeless, and looked like it. I did not do anything to people when I was crazy; I just wandered around trying to die of exposure in out of the way places.

Late one night some punks in a fast car drove by me, and yelled something. I don’t know what they yelled. But, my reaction, or lack of it evidently was offensive to one or more of them. Their car slammed to a stop, and all four of them jumped out, and started swaggering toward me. I was paralyzed emotionally over my absolute unwillingness to express my rage, and entirely suicidal in my outlook on life. These guys wanted to pick a fight with me. I was overjoyed! I walked toward them with my fists clenched, and a big smile on my face. Someone was gonna die, and it might be me!

They all changed their minds, and got back into their car. I guess I was that guy that Clint was talking about. I was very disappointed.

Tris

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**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/every-now-and-then-you-come-across-somebody-you-shouldnt-have-f-ed-with/599987/53 "2011-10-19T04:55:06Z")

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but one Christmas season my wife and walking back to our white Volvo station wagon in the mall parking lot, and there’s this guy struggling to open the driver’s side door of my car. Without a moment’s conscious deliberation, I channel this gruff voice, which I’ve never heard come out of my mouth since, and charged towards the guy demanding to know what he thinks he’s doing.  
His eyes got REALLY big.  
Turns out he’d parked his identical model Volvo station wagon one aisle over, and was wondering why his key wasn’t working…

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/every-now-and-then-you-come-across-somebody-you-shouldnt-have-f-ed-with/599987/54 "2011-10-19T05:10:13Z")

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I don’t mind this so much except for this part.

> [@pullin](#):
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> The short version:  
> 2. I make him my hobby for the next few years (legal stuff ensues; people in suits using fun words like “garnishment”).

Few years? A few years of somebody suing can ruin anyone’s financial house and ruin a marriage. Not that I like drunk drivers and I think the courts are far too easy on them but this seems a bit extreme for a dented truck.

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**Author:** ![SleepyDuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@SleepyDuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SleepyDuck)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/every-now-and-then-you-come-across-somebody-you-shouldnt-have-f-ed-with/599987/55 "2011-10-19T05:54:15Z")

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> [@Scubaqueen](#):
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> Years ago one Halloween evening as I was driving home, I saw something that still makes my blood curdle with rage every time I think about it even today.
> 
> A couple of neighborhood boys had gotten hold of a black cat, which they were tossing repeatedly into the air and sometimes catching it and sometimes not. By the time I did an unscheduled and unrehearsed vehicular slide into the culdesac where the little bastards were, their eyes had gone three times their normal size.
> 
> I got out of the car, all majorly pissed-off, 5’10” of me and snarled, _ **“give me that cat. NOW!"** _ I was in radio then, so I had far better voice control than I do now, and I seriously suspect that what came out of me would probably have made Tony the Tiger proud (I’m a woman, BTW :D).
> 
> Then - dead lying through my teeth - I told them I knew exactly where they lived and if they ever, EVER mistreated another animal on my watch I would make very sure the local constabulary would be paying their parents a visit AND I would personally be filing animal cruelty charges against their nasty little asses, parents be damned.
> 
> I laid it on thick and heavy and probably sounded like the end of the world on two legs. I sincerely, deeply, truly, hope that I did and that I scarred the little shits for life. Hopefully neither of them ever did something so irresponsibly cruel again. Exactly that kind of behavior is why shelters and other animal rescue outfits don’t let black cats out of their protection during October.
> 
> To their credit, they instantly handed me the cat, not much past kitten stage, and bolted like I’d set fire to them. Wish I had… I have no idea if the animal belonged to either of them, and frankly at that point, I didn’t care. The little guy came home with me, there and then. Who knows what might have happened to that cat if I hadn’t spotted what they were doing – literally out of the corner of my eye.
> 
> Spooky, as we ended up naming him, fortunately was undamaged, if rather spazzed out by his mistreatment. He recovered without mishap and lived with us for some time, and then when my sister got married, she took him with her to her new home. He lived to a ripe old age, lucky boy.

You are my new hero. 🆒

Oh, and Fuck drunk drivers. Seriously.

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**Author:** ![jabiru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbce88/32.png) [@jabiru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jabiru)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/every-now-and-then-you-come-across-somebody-you-shouldnt-have-f-ed-with/599987/56 "2011-10-19T06:00:58Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Girl](#):
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> And every doctor around here is going to be green with envy.

Not to mention the nurses.

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**Author:** ![pullin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c57346/32.png) [@pullin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pullin)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/every-now-and-then-you-come-across-somebody-you-shouldnt-have-f-ed-with/599987/57 "2011-10-19T10:36:53Z")

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> [@Zebra](#):
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> I don’t mind this so much except for this part.  
> Few years? A few years of somebody suing can ruin anyone’s financial house and ruin a marriage. Not that I like drunk drivers and I think the courts are far too easy on them but this seems a bit extreme for a dented truck.

I’m a Texan. The yarn’s gotta sound good, ya know? 😉

I’ll add a little more detail. There was only one wage garnishment. ‘Buford’ decided to evade my clutches by quitting his job and taking another. Presumably he thought his new employer would not be deducting the prescribed amount for the courts from his paycheck. With a little effort and exploring on our part, he was discovered and da Judge kept the dollar amount the same. Since the new job paid less, the percentage going to me actually rose (and he had even less money to live on). This hastened his journey to “outdoor” living.

He was also sentenced to pay a certain dollar amount to us for various damages in addition to the wage garnishment. As you might expect, this didn’t happen without a little pressure from us (thru the prosecutor’s office).

All told, the saga lasted about two years and we did spend considerable time and effort (and phone calls and travel) to keep the pressure on him. He kept trying to evade and disappear, and we simply were not going to let the matter drop until we’d extracted every last penny he owed us. We were only a few hundred from completion when he lost his last job (and an attorney told us he’d been located hanging out under a particular bridge noted both for homeless squatters and a source of day labor for contractors). As I recall, I made a pompous speech where I declared my intention to “sue the sumbitch for his goddam grocery cart” :p, but we decided to declare victory and move on.

And Zebra, it was far more than a “dent”. There was considerable damage, bruises from seat belts, and I got to try and comfort my sobbing wife while he laughed. He deserved what he got.

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**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/every-now-and-then-you-come-across-somebody-you-shouldnt-have-f-ed-with/599987/58 "2011-10-19T11:04:48Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> One of my patients threatened one of my nurses recently.
> 
> He’s in the segregation unit now. From there he may go to supermax.
> 
> You do **not** f\*\*k with _ **my** _ nurses.

I have a friend who was the nurse at the county jail, before she retired. Generally, she was treated very well by the prisoners, her patients. They knew she was one of the few people there who did good things for them, including passing out their medications.

But one time Mr. X got upset & assaulted her, managing to slap her & push her into a wall before the deputy escorting her could intervene. She wasn’t seriously hurt, but the jail rules required them to call in a doctor from the nearby hospital to check her out before she could resume seeing patients & distributing medications. That took some time; meanwhile the guards told all the patients waiting in line that Mr. X had assaulted the nurse, so their visit to her would be delayed or canceled, and sent them back to their cells.

About an hour later she was able to resume her duties, and saw the rest of the patients. And about 3 hours later, she saw Mr. X again. He was on a stretcher, badly beaten, and she immediately ordered him transported to the emergency room of the hospital. Some of the other prisoners had beaten him up – they _really_ didn’t like any delays in getting their medications from the nurse.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/every-now-and-then-you-come-across-somebody-you-shouldnt-have-f-ed-with/599987/59 "2011-10-19T12:26:03Z")

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> [@Baffle](#):
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> You go ahead and gloat all you want, but realize your actions cost society a lot more than his ever did.

I have the opposite view - I’m not upset that a man who brought most of his ruin upon himself is no longer a menace to society, but gloating about it is just nasty and petty. It’s a sad story all around.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/every-now-and-then-you-come-across-somebody-you-shouldnt-have-f-ed-with/599987/60 "2011-10-19T12:48:35Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> I was driving home with a friend late one night when a car, presumably full of teenagers, passed us illegally and at great speed. I guess they didn’t notice that the car right behind them was a cop car. Busted!

I was once stopped at a red light a couple lanes over from a car full of teens that was in the left-hand turn lane. Their green arrow came on but they just sat there oblivious, prompting the driver behind them to tap his horn. Instantly an arm shot out of the teen car’s window giving the guy behind them the finger. Almost as instantly his roof flashers came on. If you’re going to make obscene gestures to other drivers, it’s probably best to notice if they’re cops.

I didn’t get to see how that episode turned out, but I bet the ensuing dialogue was interesting.

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