# Everybody loves Creedence! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 27, 2003, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504 "2003-04-27T16:28:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![LifeOnWry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/96bed5/32.png) [@LifeOnWry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LifeOnWry)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2003, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/21 "2003-04-27T23:47:06Z")
While I don’t mind one or two CCR songs, on the whole I’m not a fan. And what kinda weird semi-accent is Fogerty using singing “Sweet Hitchhiker” and “Heard it through the Grapevine”?? For YEARS I couldn’t figure out what he was saying. I heard “Sweetie chee eye gah” and “People say be happy whatcha see, son a nonna whatcha eee.” If that’s not a put-on accent, that man has some serious diction issues. ---
**Author:** ![Greekigurli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/df705f/32.png) [@Greekigurli](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greekigurli)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/22 "2003-04-28T02:03:51Z")
The entire Bayou Country disk is awesome! ---
**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/23 "2003-04-28T02:31:05Z")
I think “Green River” speaks to whatever river/creek was near one’s home. I swear, he wrote it for me! “Walkin’ along the river road at night Barefoot girls, dancin’ in the moonlight” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Skillet38](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Skillet38](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skillet38)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/24 "2003-04-28T02:52:54Z")
derivative crap. What, you ripoff blues, use cheesy production, fake that you’re from the south, and can’t write a song with more than 4 chords ? or, let me rephrase, not my cup o’ tea. The only thing worse than the psuedo-country posturing CCR did was Fogerty’s pathetic lowest common-denominator sports song, “Put Me in Coach” or whatever it was called. I’d rather listen to “The Band” if I want to call up the spirit of that age and genre. At least they were sincere and functional Musicians. or better yet, cross the big pond and get everything “Traffic” did. let the drubbing commence ---
**Author:** ![Satisfying\_Andy\_Licious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Satisfying\_Andy\_Licious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satisfying_Andy_Licious)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/25 "2003-04-28T03:26:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Skillet38 \* > \*\*derivative crap. > > What, you ripoff blues, use cheesy production, fake that you’re from the south, and can’t write a song with more than 4 chords ? > > or, let me rephrase, > not my cup o’ tea. > > The only thing worse than the psuedo-country posturing CCR did was Fogerty’s pathetic lowest common-denominator sports song, “Put Me in Coach” or whatever it was called. > > I’d rather listen to “The Band” if I want to call up the spirit of that age and genre. At least they were sincere and functional Musicians. > > or better yet, cross the big pond and get everything “Traffic” did. > > let the drubbing commence \*\* I won’t drub ya, **Skillet38,** but I do think that four chords is at least one more than most bands of the era knew. ---
**Author:** ![I\_can\_t\_believe\_that\_s\_butter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@I\_can\_t\_believe\_that\_s\_butter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_can_t_believe_that_s_butter)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/26 "2003-04-28T04:00:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Skillet38 \* > \*\*derivative crap…At least [The Band] were sincere and functional Musicians. > \*\* How was CCR not a group of functional and sincere musicians? Have you seen them play? I’d like a cite, please, not to challenge you, _per se_, but to educate myself in the case that I am wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Murcielago](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@Murcielago](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Murcielago)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/27 "2003-04-28T04:42:19Z")
Looks like that was a drive-by from **Skillet38** , but… If you know how to read music, you will realize that Fogerty used 7ths, 9ths, and even minor 6ths in his songs, including the hits. His chord changes are unusual, often times his songs require open D or F guitar tunings. That is why his music and guitar playing are recognized, because they are different. ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/28 "2003-04-28T04:44:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Joe K \* > \*\*How was CCR not a group of functional and sincere musicians? \*\* Well, y’see, when a guy from El Cerrito writes songs evoking the Old South, that’s presumptuous. But when a guy from Toronto writes songs evoking the Old South, that’s **sincere**! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/29 "2003-04-28T05:26:59Z")
Yeah, I’ve got to admit that the geographic thing is kind of silly, considering rock and the blues have their origins on at least three continents (Europe, Africa, America). Music from the South, duh, has exerted a huge influence on people everywhere, and people from all over have played ‘Southern’ music - after all, the blues, which are regarded as Southern, became really big in England before they made waves in America. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/30 "2003-04-28T05:28:48Z")
In spite all of that, you can be really phony as a blues player. I’m just saying it doesn’t make sense to decide whether someone is a genuine player based on where he’s born. Lots of non-Germans have been influenced by Beethoven, you know? Doesn’t make them phonies. ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/31 "2003-04-28T06:21:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Chief Crunch \* > \*\*What does that have to do with anything? You weren’t aware their music has heavy elements of rockabilly and country? 😕 \*\* I thought it was strange that someone thought that an image of a band that was much more rural in its background when it was actually from the city. ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/32 "2003-04-28T10:57:19Z")
I love CCR. I only own their first Greatest Hits album, but all the songs on that album are just downright fantastic. Fogerty truly is a composer of the highest caliber. Even though the songs are 30 years old, they still sound crisp and contemporary, in a strange way. Having said that, we’re off to Cafe Society. It’s just around the bend… ---
**Author:** ![williamweigand](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b3f665/32.png) [@williamweigand](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/williamweigand)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/33 "2003-04-28T13:53:38Z")
I’ve often thought of starting a thread on bands you hate but that have ONE SONG that you really like.In CCR’s case the only song worth listening to,IMO,is “Suzie Q”. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Rieux](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Dr.Rieux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Rieux)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/34 "2003-04-28T14:18:55Z")
CCR is tied with the Eagles for the best damn rock ‘n’ roll band the USA has ever produced (IMHO). ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/35 "2003-04-28T14:30:44Z")
CCR is one of the Best bands to have come out of the 70s. They have an AMAZING number of hits, given that some unscrupulous Record Executive screwed them out of their rights, royalties, and contractually prevented them from recording and playing for more than 10 years. That’s 10 years of music we’ll never get to listen to. I’m not sure of all the details, but the A–Hole’s first name is Adam and last name rhytmes with “Ants”. ---
**Author:** ![Skillet38](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Skillet38](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skillet38)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/36 "2003-04-28T17:31:07Z")
twasn’t a mere drive by, I’ll pop in and take some more abuse 🙂 my opine may be subjectively tainted by my experiences, which include having to play the bass parts to too many CCR songs over the years in too many bands. I just never found their overall “vibe” to be strong enough to make up for (what was to me, having to cop it) the numbing simplicity of the tunes. And Fogerty’s voice always grated on me. Obviously many people hold them in very high esteem. I isn’t one o’ dem, but to each his own. ciao from somebody who actually lives next to a bayou 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/37 "2003-04-28T17:58:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by BobT \* > \*\*I thought it was strange that someone thought that an image of a band that was much more rural in its background when it was actually from the city. \*\* But it isn’t strange, **BobT**. That was the music they played, and in the lyrics they sang. I consider myself a huge Creedence fan, and it was several years before I learned they were from southern California. But it’s perfectly acceptable for kids from San Berdoo to play rocakabilly (indeed, to more than halfway invent it), just like it’s perfectly acceptable for suburban kids from the Mid-West like me to listen to their albums. –Cliffy ---
**Author:** ![Skillet38](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Skillet38](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skillet38)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/38 "2003-04-28T18:04:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Joe K \* > \*\*How was CCR not a group of functional and sincere musicians? Have you seen them play? I’d like a cite, please, not to challenge you, _per se_, but to educate myself in the case that I am wrong. \*\* \*\* Joe K \*\* you are correct to challenge me on that statement, as I was hyperventalating on my own hyperbole. I shouldn’t have shown doubt on their sincerity etc… again, not my cup of tea. I do think I have done the OP a service to demonstrate that there is not a universal love of this band’s music. It just seems that way to him. I used a few more notches of vitriol than I might’ve, but zinfadel does that to me at times. I’ll come back tonight and see if I still feel mean and petty. lol ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/39 "2003-04-28T18:35:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by quietman1920 \* > \*\*I’m not sure of all the details, but the A–Hole’s first name is Adam \*\* Saul, actually. And I understand he kant danz. ---
**Author:** ![Wintermute](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e19b73/32.png) [@Wintermute](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wintermute)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/40 "2003-04-28T18:42:14Z")
Ok, here’s a CA native checking in. Although I don’t live there anymore, I was born in Glendale, and lived in Pasadina until I was 7 before we moved north to Mendocino County, to qualify my credentials. I love the Eagles, but CCR leaves me cold. Can’t stand the voice. If you’re a singer, you should be able to sing, IMO. You can be the greatest song-writer in the world, but I’ll never know if I can’t stand hearing you. I know I’ll catch some flak for this, but Bob Dylan is another one. Great songs, but I just can’t listen to him. _(gasp Blasphemy!)_ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504.md?page=3)