# Everybody loves Creedence! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 27, 2003, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504 "2003-04-27T16:28:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Murcielago](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@Murcielago](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Murcielago)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/41 "2003-04-28T19:13:40Z")
Nothing personal, **Skillet38** , I was simply defending my opinion. The popular band I can’t stand is **The Eagles**. At one party we played I was forced to put down my guitar and sing _Desperado_ from behind the keyboard. I know they are all talented musicians and songwriters, but I will never forgive them for giving the world that song. I agree with Mojo Nixon, _Don Henley Must Die!!_ ---
**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/42 "2003-04-28T19:32:29Z")
Most of the CCR compendium is good, but I can’t stand some songs-- Proud Mary among them. My wife won’t let me play CCR when she’s in the room 😉 ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/43 "2003-04-28T19:47:11Z")
I saw Fogarty in concert a couple of years ago. He was the only original from CCR but he’d taught the other how to sound just like the original. We were between several Viet Nam vets and they were digging it in a big way, having listened to them throughout their tours. Good stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Satisfying\_Andy\_Licious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Satisfying\_Andy\_Licious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satisfying_Andy_Licious)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/44 "2003-04-28T19:49:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Skillet38 \* > \*\*derivative crap. > > The only thing worse than the psuedo-country posturing CCR did was Fogerty’s pathetic lowest common-denominator sports song, “Put Me in Coach” or whatever it was called. > \*\* I don’t care for “Coach,” either. But if CCR were “pseudo-country posturing” (and they’re a loooong way from country) then what do we say to any other musician who likes music he can’t claim are in his “roots”? For example, do we say blacks can’t sing country-western? Whites shouldn’t even try to be rappers? How about the Stray Cats? They played rockabilly but were from New York. The only group I consider outright frauds was The Strangeloves. They were a bunch of Brill-building hacks in NYC who decided to fake being British when the British Invasion caught on. But their fake British accents were so bad that they then tried to claim they were Australian! They would go to an airport and pay a pilot to taxi them up to the gate just so they could claim to have flown in from oversees. And their music really was bad, too. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/45 "2003-04-28T20:10:30Z")
(I can’t believe nobody has posted this) “Hey I love Creedence.” “You want to see something really scary?” Oh and Bad Moon Rising is my fav. ---
**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2003, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/46 "2003-04-28T21:55:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wintermute \* > \*_Can’t stand the voice. If you’re a singer, you should be able to sing, IMO._ \*\* Fogerty can sing – he doesn’t _enunciate_ but that’s something different. Anyway, CCR just gets the blood pumpin’ – I love listening to their records as I drive down the highway, flyin’ ‘bout the speed a’ sound. OK, so for those of us right-thinking individuals who dig CCR, what do we think of Mardi Gras? IMO, it’s one of their best albums – Sweet Hitchhiker is their best hard-rockin’ choogle since Travelling Band, Someday Never Comes is one of Fogerty’s best-put-together songs, and the non-Fogerty members come into their own with Need Someone to Hold, What Are You Gonna Do?, Tearing Up the Country, and even the fun Door to Door. (And **Wintermute** complains that Fogerty can’t sing! Ha! ;)) Plus I love Lookin’ For a Reason. –Cliffy ---
**Author:** ![Torgo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@Torgo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Torgo)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/47 "2003-04-29T00:51:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Dr. Rieux \* > \*\*CCR is tied with the Eagles for the best damn rock ‘n’ roll band the USA has ever produced (IMHO). \*\* I throw monkey feces at your aunties for such a hideous insult to CCR! _CCR tied with the Eagles???_ That’s like saying the Beatles are tied with Cliff Richard! Anyhoo…does anyone know of a good CCR documentary out there? ---
**Author:** ![Skillet38](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Skillet38](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skillet38)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/48 "2003-04-29T01:10:54Z")
my nipples explode with delight ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/49 "2003-04-29T01:54:53Z")
In all my 38 years and counting, I cannot ever remember a time when I didn’t know all the lyrics and truly love singing along to “Lookin’ Out My Back Door”. Utter rock and roll joy! Thank God for CCR. ---
**Author:** ![elelle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@elelle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elelle)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/50 "2003-04-29T02:04:20Z")
I blanche at CCR being compared to The–shudder-- Eagles. A more apt comparison would be to The Byrds. Fogarty was doing the same thing Chris Hillman and Gram Parsons were at the time, using blues and country music (in Fogarty’s case, particularly Louisiana swamp blues) to influence rock music. To all the young 'uns, this was groundbreaking at the time, and caught the attention of that generation. CCR’s music was more easily accessible than The Byrd’s, and much more so than Gram Parson’s. He had deeper and darker complex explorations, and harder country roots, so never got the same airplay. I’d put them in the same contextual category, though. I love CCR, and consider them less pretentious than other folk/roots bands at the time; they were a great outdoor frolic band. I think they got a lot of mileage from the Summer of Love–hopeful???–atmosphere of the 60’s. I really admire John Fogarty’s stance in the 80’s against a record company claiming they “own” his sound because of previous contract. To take that stand was quite important in the music world. Bless JF greatly for that battle! I always sing along to “Lookin’ Out My Back Door”. ---
**Author:** ![elelle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@elelle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elelle)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/51 "2003-04-29T02:23:27Z")
**ER, ARgghhh** FTR, the admired musician in this thread is Jon FogERty. There ya go. ---
**Author:** ![Satisfying\_Andy\_Licious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Satisfying\_Andy\_Licious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satisfying_Andy_Licious)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/52 "2003-04-29T05:53:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Skillet38 \* > \*\*my nipples explode with delight \*\* So you changed your mind about CCR? Talk about a conversion. ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/53 "2003-04-29T10:34:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Satisfying Andy Licious \* > \*\*The only group I consider outright frauds was The Strangeloves. They were a bunch of Brill-building hacks in NYC who decided to fake being British when the British Invasion caught on. But their fake British accents were so bad that they then tried to claim they were Australian! They would go to an airport and pay a pilot to taxi them up to the gate just so they could claim to have flown in from oversees. > And their music really was bad, too. \*\* Frauds or not, that’s a hilarious story! Did their amps go to eleven too, by the way? 😃 Best CCR song ever: _Have you ever seen the rain?_. Chills down my spine. ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/54 "2003-04-29T14:22:35Z")
Like you, Coldfire, I love “Have You Ever Seen the Rain”. I used to have a long-running internal debate over which “Rain” song I liked more, that one, or “Who’ll Stop the Rain?”. I finally settled on the former. ---
**Author:** ![Satisfying\_Andy\_Licious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Satisfying\_Andy\_Licious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satisfying_Andy_Licious)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/55 "2003-04-30T18:39:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Coldfire \* > \*\*Frauds or not, that’s a hilarious story! Did their amps go to eleven too, by the way? 😃 > \*\* It gets better, **Coldfire,** – or worse, depending on your view. They had previously released a song as “The Beach Nuts,” demonstrating that there was no trend they wouldn’t hop onto. As The Strangeloves, they tried to cover their tracks by claiming they came from Armstrong, Australia – which doesn’t exist – and that they were sheep ranchers in the Outback. Then they started dressing in zebra vests, carrying spears and pounding on tribal drums draped in zebra skin. Apparently these guys thought Australia was essentially Africa with kangaroos. Despite all the hype and confusion, they managed to produce a body of work that, when collected all on one CD, makes a pretty good coffee coaster. They had a hit with “I Want Candy” (which the Go-Gos covered). The song went onto the R&B charts, and people thought they were black, which gives you an idea of how well the whole “Australian” accent thing was working. They also were on the charts with “Night Time” and “Cara-Lin.” But they did co-write “Hang On, Sloopy” and produced the excellent version by the McCoys – redemption of a sort. ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/56 "2003-04-30T18:48:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Satisfying Andy Licious \* > \*\* > They had a hit with “I Want Candy” (which the Go-Gos covered). \*\* The Go-Go’s didn’t do “I Want Candy”…you’re probably thinking of Bow Wow Wow. The Strangeloves do have a Go-Go’s connection, however, as one of them was Richard Gottehrer, who produced the Go-Go’s first couple of albums. ---
**Author:** ![Satisfying\_Andy\_Licious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Satisfying\_Andy\_Licious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satisfying_Andy_Licious)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/57 "2003-05-01T17:27:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Biffy the Elephant Shrew \* > \*\*The Go-Go’s didn’t do “I Want Candy”…you’re probably thinking of Bow Wow Wow. The Strangeloves do have a Go-Go’s connection, however, as one of them was Richard Gottehrer, who produced the Go-Go’s first couple of albums. \*\* Thanks for the correction, Biffy. I don’t know why I was thinking the Go-Gos. Bow Wow Wow isn’t even a “girl band.” ---
**Author:** ![I\_can\_t\_believe\_that\_s\_butter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@I\_can\_t\_believe\_that\_s\_butter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_can_t_believe_that_s_butter)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504/58 "2003-05-01T17:49:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Satisfying Andy Licious \* > \*\*Thanks for the correction, Biffy. I don’t know why I was thinking the Go-Gos. Bow Wow Wow isn’t even a “girl band.” \*\* Well, there _was_ a _girl_… 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everybody-loves-creedence/171504.md?page=2)