# Everyone gets this wrong

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, movies\
**Created:** [June 3, 2025, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166 "2025-06-03T15:48:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/21 "2025-06-03T21:31:33Z")

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> [@DocCathode](#):
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> Then a few cases of child molestation became national news. The writers worried that the other characters not believing Big Bird would make children think that people would not believe them if they reported sexual abuse. The decision was made to have Snuffy be seen and heard by other characters .

I think they went the wrong way with that. I think the message they should have pushed was “Even if nobody believes you, it’s still true, and you should still tell people”. And then had people believe Big Bird even without seeing Snuffy.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/22 "2025-06-03T21:31:39Z")

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In that scene, what appears to happen is that he goes around the earth at increasing speed until time starts running backwards (as evidenced by the earth rotating the other way and cut scenes of things on the surface running backwards), at which point he slows down and **time continues to run backwards** (the earth still spinning the other way), then he apparently needs to go around the earth fast in the other direction, to get time, and the earth, going the correct way again.

So there’s definitely some nonsense in that scene that tends to suggest that the passage of time is an _effect_ of the direction of the earth’s rotation.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/23 "2025-06-03T22:05:55Z")

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I think what is supposed to be happening is he is speeding forward in time to go back to the point where he left.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/24 "2025-06-04T16:32:51Z")

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I won’t kill you - but I don’t have to save you. (proceeds to push villians car off a cliff)

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**Author:** ![Dropo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@Dropo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dropo)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/25 "2025-06-04T18:38:25Z")

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> **[The Complicated History of Batman Killing People | The Batman Chronology Project](https://therealbatmanchronologyproject.com/the-complicated-history-of-batman-killing-people/)**
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> Part One: The Golden Age (Earth-2 Batman) When Bill Finger and Bob Kane debuted Batman in 1939, the titular character (joined shortly thereafter by his sidekick Robin) killed wantonly—sometimes in self-defense (i.e. indirectly or situationally), but...

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/26 "2025-06-04T19:04:23Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> That training would include the common 20th century US units of feet and inches.

That’s a pretty good handwave, except that McCoy is surprised and baffled and horrified by 20th century medicine, so clearly he didn’t get the equivalent training.

Maybe it wasn’t an official Starfleet class. Maybe Scotty took an extension course at the community college.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/27 "2025-06-04T19:12:32Z")

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McCoy was also baffled by the computer mouse so clearly lacking in appropriate knowledge of the time period.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/28 "2025-06-04T19:15:09Z")

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That was Scotty

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/29 "2025-06-04T19:18:56Z")

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Sure, but there’s a point where he’s not going fast, and the world is still rotating the wrong way (implying time is running backwards inertially or something)

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/30 "2025-06-04T19:29:53Z")

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> [@Frodo](#):
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> That was Scotty

Yes, you’re correct, but Scotty both used feet/inches _and_ was baffled by a computer mouse.

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**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/31 "2025-06-04T19:34:39Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> is the way this futuristic engineer discusses the dimensions of the panel using feet and inches

The universal translator is taking care of unit conversions.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/32 "2025-06-04T19:35:16Z")

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My theory is that Scotty used civilized metric units but the universal translator changed it to feet, inches, rods and hogsheads and all that barbarian mumbo-jumbo.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/33 "2025-06-04T19:35:52Z")

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_Shakes fist at_ _ **echoreply** _

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**Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/34 "2025-06-04T19:39:32Z")

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Though I’m sure Doctor Nichols (the one receiving the formula for transparent aluminum) wouldn’t have had a problems with a discussion using metric units.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/35 "2025-06-04T19:39:58Z")

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The universal translator is mainly for the audience.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/36 "2025-06-04T19:40:29Z")

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I thought dams (river dams) are bigger based on the volume of water behind them and less on the depth?

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**Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/37 "2025-06-04T19:49:47Z")

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In the 1960s Star Trek series did they use metric, imperial or did it never come up? I honestly can’t remember.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/38 "2025-06-04T19:51:42Z")

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I’m not sure but I would bet they used imperial, they wanted people to understand what they were hearing and their target audience was overwhelmingly in the US.  
ETA: according to this thread (in another board): [When did Star Trek start using Metric system | The Trek BBS](https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/when-did-star-trek-start-using-metric-system.281280/) they used both.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/39 "2025-06-04T19:54:02Z")

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The Federation is pretty clearly a successor state to the United States. Of course our descendants still use stupid units.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/40 "2025-06-04T19:55:11Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> The Federation is pretty clearly a successor state to the United States.

A socialist utopia where money is not very important? Are we talking about the same United States?

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