# Everyone gets this wrong **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, movies\ **Created:** [June 3, 2025, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166 "2025-06-03T15:48:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/81 "2025-06-05T13:25:55Z")
I thought that the Grail acquired the powers only after being used to catch Jesus’ blood as he was hanging from the cross? So it was not magical during the Last Supper. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/82 "2025-06-05T18:01:05Z")
29 posts were merged into an existing topic: [Time Travel in fiction](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-travel-in-fiction/1019240/2) ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/83 "2025-06-05T13:48:01Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > "Morning, Frank.” > > “Morning, Ralph.” > > _Aside_: I once had two co-workers, one named Ralph and one named Frank. I heard this exact exchange one morning as we came into the office. They didn’t understand why I started laughing. I hate to step on a cherished memory, but I think it was Sam Sheepdog. It’s not unknown for cartoon characters to go through some minor changes early on, before they settle in to their established forms, so maybe he was Frank at some point. The joke was lampshaded once on _Newsradio_. As to The Coyote, there may be some reference to his name that we haven’t discovered yet. Was he ever shown standing by his mailbox waiting for a package from Acme? I know that sort of gag was used in other WB cartoons. What name is in the mailbox? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/84 "2025-06-05T13:54:20Z")
Why do people assume the name is Wile E Coyote and not Wiley Coyote? ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/85 "2025-06-05T13:57:30Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > > [@Frodo](#): > > > > That was Scotty > > Yes, you’re correct, but Scotty both used feet/inches _and_ was baffled by a computer mouse. I always wondered a) where the computer was getting the diagrams and data it was displaying on the monitor, and b) how Scotty learned how to use the mouse to get that information so quickly after having not known how to use it at all. > [@muldoonthief](#): > > Probably 80% of people think that when Hooper was investigating the hole in the demolished boat, Ben Gardner’s severed head came bobbing out of it. Except it wasn’t severed, it was clearly still attached to his shoulders and torso. What’s this in reference to? ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/86 "2025-06-05T13:58:01Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Why do people assume the name is Wile E Coyote and not Wiley Coyote? [![](https://static1.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/wile-e-coyote-genius-business-card-feature-image.jpg) ](https://static1.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/wile-e-coyote-genius-business-card-feature-image.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/87 "2025-06-05T14:03:11Z")
Thank you. Now I want to get similar business cards. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/88 "2025-06-05T14:17:04Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Thank you. Now I want to get similar business cards Here you go… [![](https://i.imgur.com/Ca1HP0x.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/Ca1HP0x.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/90 "2025-06-05T14:19:04Z")
This thread reminded me of a horror comic I read years ago. It was an EC horror knockoff made by DC or Charleston, really low budget. Anyway, it followed the trope of “Down on his luck guy discovers some kind of life hack, uses it to gain riches, then loses it all in an ironic twist.” I only remember it took place in Russia, and a gambler named Sergei discovered he had the uncanny ability to fill an inside straight at poker. He’d be in a game of Draw, have 4 of the cards, ask for 1 card, and manage to get the straight and win the round. The dialogue went something like this: Sergei: Give me… one card! Poker player 1: So, you wish to fill an inside straight do you? Poker player 2: Sergei, if you accomplish this, you will win all the wagers! Next panel: Sergei stands and flamboyantly fans his cards out on the tabletop. Sergei: Behold… a STRAIGHT! Poker player 1: He’s done it. Sergei is now the champion! A player asking for one card isn’t always looking to fill an inside straight. He could have been dealt two pair and wanted to get a Full House. He could have been dealt 4 of a suit and wanted to get a 5th for a Flush. How does Poker player 2 know Sergei’s straight will beat all the other hands? Somebody else could have a higher hand. It’s not like anybody is required to continue playing and adding to the pot if they think Sergei got the straight. Plus, if Sergei always manages to fill a straight, he’s going to be suspected of cheating and not allowed to play, and possibly get his legs broken in the process. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/91 "2025-06-05T14:20:09Z")
Ah, the “[Somewhere in Time](http://www.mjyoung.net/time/somewher.html)” pocket watch paradox. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/93 "2025-06-05T14:26:15Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I should watch the cartoons again to see if there’s any reference to “Wile E.” in the Roadrunner cartoons. Maybe not established on-screen in the cartoons, but canon now. > **[LOONEY TUNES #263 | DC](https://www.dc.com/comics/looney-tunes-1994/looney-tunes-263)** > > While commiserating over past failures, Ralph Wolf and Wile E. Coyote decide it’s time for a change of scenery-and a chance to best the other’s foe! Maybe they’ll have better luck attempting to capture each other’s rivals…? [![](https://static.dc.com/dc/files/default_images/LT_Cv263_DIGITAL_618960d224df51.25686550.jpg?w=640) ](https://static.dc.com/dc/files/default_images/LT_Cv263_DIGITAL_618960d224df51.25686550.jpg?w=640) ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/94 "2025-06-05T14:27:36Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I thought that the Grail acquired the powers only after being used to catch Jesus’ blood as he was hanging from the cross? So it was not magical during the Last Supper I have no idea. I don’t think the movie suggested this. Here is the script. I guess that is the emphasis in it. > [@](#): > > Across the desert and through the > mountain to the Canyon of the Crescent > Moon, to the Temple where the cup > that --" > > ``` > Suddenly Indy stops and looks up at Donovan with a startled > expression. > > INDY > "Where the cup that holds the blood > of Jesus Christ resides forever." > > DONOVAN > (reverently) > The Holy Grail, Doctor Jones. The > chalice used by Christ during the > Last Supper. The cup that caught His > blood at the Crucifixion and was > entrusted to Joseph of Arimathaea. > > Indy rubs his chin with a dubious expression as he takes the > glass of champagne Donovan now offers him. > > INDY > The Arthur Legend. I've heard this > bedtime story before. > > DONOVAN > Eternal life, Doctor Jones! The gift > of youth to whoever drinks from the > Grail. > (beat) > Oh, now that's a bedtime story I'd > like to wake up to! > > ``` ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/100 "2025-06-05T14:57:22Z")
> [@DocCathode](#): > > Having already witnessed proof of God’s existence and the power of a Biblical relic in the first film, why doesn’t Indy just let his father die? Indy has again seen proof. If his father dies, he will be rewarded for a virtuous life. This is a common problem with lots of shows/movies. I’m rewatching Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and in it, it’s made very clear that Christian crosses and holy water work against vampires, which kind of suggests that Christianity is correct. But then they have Willow, who is (at least early in the series) quite Jewish, and then, later, Wiccan. And no one ever seems to address this issue. ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/102 "2025-06-05T14:59:06Z")
Fellahs! It should be **Dew E. Finn** , Super Genius. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/104 "2025-06-05T15:02:32Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > But then they have Willow, who is (at least early in the series) quite Jewish I believe this was definitively addressed in _The Fearless Vampire Killers_. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/105 "2025-06-05T15:02:42Z")
That’s pretty much what I’m planning. Except on the back, it’s going to say Dewey Finn Complete Doofus Still willing to travel but no promises ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/106 "2025-06-05T15:06:44Z")
Frodo Baggins Have ring will travel. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/107 "2025-06-05T15:08:07Z")
> [@SCAdian](#): > > What’s this in reference to? Jaws. (What, everyone doesn’t immediately know who Hooper and Ben Gardner are?) ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/109 "2025-06-05T15:23:20Z")
> [@Time Travel in fiction](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-travel-in-fiction/1019240/10): > > Of course, Wesley is a very tough nut to crack, and he can tell that, too, so he does the cup-swap just to be sure. I think it’s much simpler than that. After Vizzini switches cups, they both raise their cups to drink. Watch closely; Vizzini waits for the Man in Black to start drinking first. MiB wouldn’t knowingly drink from the poisoned cup, but having sneakily switched them, that’s Vizzini’s clue that the cup he’s now holding is safe to drink from. ---
**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166/110 "2025-06-05T15:23:24Z")
Remember, Indy never had a normal relationship with his father. Everything was filtered through Henry’s work. Indy’s whole career is motivated in part by trying to live up to his father’s expectations. After he rescues him from the Nazis, they begin to connect on an actual human, father/son level for the first time ever. So Indy makes the decision to save his father, who he finally realizes he actually wants to have a relationship with. It might not be the rational decision, but it’s a very human one. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-gets-this-wrong/1019166.md?page=6)