# Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth. Mike Tyson fights Friday night!

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**Created:** [November 12, 2024, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-has-a-plan-until-they-get-punched-in-the-mouth-mike-tyson-fights-friday-night/1010144 "2024-11-12T13:47:29Z")\
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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> What time is Tyson-Paul actual fight scheduled to begin? Not the opening matches, but the big one.

I’m told by my friend who is hosting the fight night that it is 5PM Pacific. I should probably confirm that though.

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USA Today, article published today:

“Netflix will start coverage of the full fight card at 8 p.m. ET on Friday, Nov. 15. The exact ringwalk and fight time for Tyson vs. Paul is not yet determined, as the other fights on the card could serve as variables.”

> **[Mike Tyson vs. Jake Paul date and time: Fight schedule, odds, how to watch](https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/boxing/2024/11/14/mike-tyson-jake-paul-date-time-schedule/76261827007/)**
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> Jake Paul and Mike Tyson are set for a massive fight on Netflix. Here are all the details, including odds, time, schedule, and location.

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NBC News article dated today corroborated the 8pm Eastern time:

“Mike Tyson is set to face Jake Paul in a boxing match at 8 p.m. ET Friday on Netflix, but the fireworks started early. In their final faceoff prior to the bout, “Iron Mike” slapped the social media star before security jumped in to separate the opponents.”

And at today’s weigh in, Tyson slapped Paul.  
10 sec video at this link:

> **[Mike Tyson vs. Jake Paul: Legendary boxer slaps social media star ahead of fight](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna179693)**
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> "Iron Mike," the former lineal heavyweight champion, will face an opponent 31 years younger than him on Friday night.

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From ESPN, Mike Tyson’s Quickest KOs; and I got the YouTubes for them ➜ [Tyson vs. Paul: What the stats tell us about the fight - ESPN](https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/39772221/what-boxing-stats-tell-us-mike-tyson-vs-jake-paul-fight-netflix-friday) ■

**FIGHT DURATION; OPPONENT; YEAR; VIDEO**

1. 30 seconds; Marvis Frazier; 1985 ➜ [https://youtu.be/3TY5r7ulTQY](https://youtu.be/3TY5r7ulTQY) ■
2. 37 seconds; Robert Colay; 1985 ➜ [https://youtu.be/HNeFzwCqx4w](https://youtu.be/HNeFzwCqx4w) ■
3. 38 seconds; Lou Savarese; 2000 ➜ [https://youtu.be/ZKiG5TzeYSw](https://youtu.be/ZKiG5TzeYSw) ■
4. 39 seconds; Ricardo Spain; 1985 ➜ [https://youtu.be/n1Wm2bi8ViI](https://youtu.be/n1Wm2bi8ViI) ■
5. 39 seconds; Michael Johnson; 1985 ➜ [https://youtu.be/O2cIFAbOU4Q](https://youtu.be/O2cIFAbOU4Q) ■
6. 49 seconds; Clifford Etienne; 2003 ➜ [https://youtu.be/GMbnY2bhbVU](https://youtu.be/GMbnY2bhbVU) ■
7. 50 seconds; Mark Young; 1985 ➜ [https://youtu.be/ErO2-0qSINA](https://youtu.be/ErO2-0qSINA) ■
8. 52 seconds; Trent Singleton; 1985 ➜ [https://youtu.be/q57wNUBCPK8](https://youtu.be/q57wNUBCPK8) ■
9. 54 seconds; Sterling Benjamin; 1985 ➜ [https://youtu.be/mlPiQv8VGQw](https://youtu.be/mlPiQv8VGQw) ■
10. 1:05; Lorenzo Canady; 1985 ➜ [https://youtu.be/b5QPMJvlFhk](https://youtu.be/b5QPMJvlFhk) ■
11. 1:17; Ed Richardson; 1985 ➜ [https://youtu.be/fpd1av6AgLg](https://youtu.be/fpd1av6AgLg) ■
12. 1:19; Sammy Scaf; 1985 ➜ [https://youtu.be/tRRScfRc8N8](https://youtu.be/tRRScfRc8N8) ■
13. 1:28; Donnie Long; 1985 ➜ [https://youtu.be/KtYwBHj0tDE](https://youtu.be/KtYwBHj0tDE) ■
14. 1:29 (DQ); Peter McNeeley; 1995 ➜ [https://youtu.be/0vnOfawuQF4](https://youtu.be/0vnOfawuQF4) ■
15. 1:31; Michael Spinks; 1988 ➜ [https://youtu.be/HuaFIRD7\_5Y](https://youtu.be/HuaFIRD7_5Y) ■
16. 1:33; Carl Williams; 1989 ➜ [https://youtu.be/bRN9sTYYQsQ](https://youtu.be/bRN9sTYYQsQ) ■

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I remember the Trevor Berbick fight when Tyson won his first championship. It was comical in the 2nd round when Berbick stumbled repeatedly. And then the fight was stopped.

★ **WBC Heavyweight Title Fight, 1986** ; 25 seconds into the 2nd round, a TKO of Trevor Berbick; Tyson became the youngest heavyweight champion in history  
∘ 1st round ➜ [https://youtu.be/tG2B90evafc&t=45s](https://youtu.be/tG2B90evafc&t=45s) ■  
∘ 2nd round ➜ [https://youtu.be/tG2B90evafc&t=4m38s](https://youtu.be/tG2B90evafc&t=4m38s) ■  
∘ 2:35 into 2nd round, Berbick stumbles repeatedly, the fight is stopped ➜ [https://youtu.be/tG2B90evafc&t=6m55s](https://youtu.be/tG2B90evafc&t=6m55s) ■

I hope Tyson wins, but I fear his age will prevent that. We shall see.

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> [@Bullitt](#):
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> NBC News article dated today corroborated the 8pm Eastern time:

That’s still just the time the show starts, not the time when the main event starts.

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Friday nights are always spent out at a brewery or other venue. We have Netflix, but I won’t be able to watch.

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Friday nights are always spent out at a brewery or other venue. We have Netflix, but I won’t be able to watch.

I’m now picturing a bunch of guys at a sports bar: big screens all around ‘em, but suddenly they’re all huddling around the warm glow of the one phone there that has the Netflix app…

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> > [@Bullitt](#):
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> > NBC News article dated today corroborated the 8pm Eastern time:
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> That’s still just the time the show starts, not the time when the main event starts.

Yeah. Got it, thanks. The main event depends on how long the undercard matches run.

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Thanks for the walk down memory lane. Back in the day Tyson was such a fearsome competitor, and the way he quickly dispatched his opponents was crazy. I hope he makes a good showing. I have Netflix, but I hope I remember to tune in.

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-has-a-plan-until-they-get-punched-in-the-mouth-mike-tyson-fights-friday-night/1010144/30 "2024-11-15T16:44:47Z")

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I’m thinking of that episode of the Simpsons where Homer becomes a boxer and gets put up against their Tyson expy where all he has to do is last three rounds because “fans are tired of fights being over before they have a chance to get drunk.” Of course he lasts all of about half a round.

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I’ll be watching. I’m in the “Tyson is too old to have any kind of a chance” camp. He won’t last more than three rounds.

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> [@Bullitt](#):
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> > [@TriPolar](#):
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> > > [@Bullitt](#):
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> > > NBC News article dated today corroborated the 8pm Eastern time:
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> > That’s still just the time the show starts, not the time when the main event starts.
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> Yeah. Got it, thanks. The main event depends on how long the undercard matches run.

The walk out for the main event is planned for 10PM CT (0400Zulu).

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> [@FlikTheBlue](#):
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> I’ll be watching. I’m in the “Tyson is too old to have any kind of a chance” camp. He won’t last more than three rounds.

I’m leaning that way. Even if he still has the power that is offset by the thicker gloves. On the other hand from what I’ve seen of Paul he has some serious holes in his defense. He is in phenomenal shape and seems to take his training seriously. He will have stamina advantage. I’m not convinced enough either way to put money on it.

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I expect Paul to try to run away and clinch his way through the fight. Even if Tyson has a good strategy to put in play his past provides no sign that he’d follow through with it.

14 oz. gloves are lighter than Tyson used most of the time to knock out all those guys he faced, heavyweights traditionally wore 16 oz. gloves. The lighter weight is an advantage to both guys stamina-wise. As are 2 minute rounds. Those things make it easier for Paul to stay on the run, yet I’m sure that Tyson can still knock him out if he can get close to him for long enough. If Mike pulls the trigger Paul goes down.

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According to Ariel Helwani (the guy with the mic at the presser),Tyson slapped Paul because Paul stepped on Tyson’s toes. Tyson mentioned in a previous interview with Dan Patrick that he could beat a UFC opponent if they didn’t step on his feet. He’s had surgery on them, and according to Tyson, both feet look like they’ve been blown up.

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The program is scheduled to begin 8PM ET with the Tyson-Paul walk-in scheduled not until 11PM ET. So, about 3 hours of filler.

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Well, not really filler. All the other fights on the card look like they could be good. And possibly all go to the judges.

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> [@Hampshire](#):
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> The program is scheduled to begin 8PM ET with the Tyson-Paul walk-in scheduled not until 11PM ET. So, about 3 hours of filler.

I’m literally just putting the whole thing on a little chromebook on my side table and only flipping it to the main TV if:

- they don’t start at midnight or something(I am Eastern timezone)
- my wife has actually gone to bed. She does not care.

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> [@Hampshire](#):
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> The program is scheduled to begin 8PM ET with the Tyson-Paul walk-in scheduled not until 11PM ET. So, about 3 hours of filler.

It’s not filler. How the hell is it filler? There are several other bouts.

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> 14 oz. gloves are lighter than Tyson used most of the time to knock out all those guys he faced, heavyweights traditionally wore 16 oz. gloves.

What is your support for that? For boxing/kickboxing we always used 16 oz for sparring and amateur bouts, but my understanding was that pros used much lighter gloves, around 10 -12 oz.

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