# Everyone hates it, it's notoriously bad, yet you love it.

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [August 29, 2011, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-hates-it-its-notoriously-bad-yet-you-love-it/594536 "2011-08-29T19:41:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![mkecane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@mkecane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mkecane)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-hates-it-its-notoriously-bad-yet-you-love-it/594536/81 "2011-08-30T15:17:55Z")

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> [@cjepson](#):
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> I love eating Ho Hos while listening to _Their Satanic Majesties Request._
> 
> I’m not kidding.

I don’t get why this would be a problem. Ho Hos are great, and I think _TSMR_ is the Stones best album; it’s certainly my favorite of theirs. I don’t get the connection between the two, however.

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**Author:** ![Dogzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@Dogzilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogzilla)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-hates-it-its-notoriously-bad-yet-you-love-it/594536/82 "2011-08-30T15:25:23Z")

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> [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](#):
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> To this day, I think “Indiana Jones & The Temple Of Doom” was the most enjoyable movie of the series; I had no idea how badly it was thought of until I discovered the SDMB…
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> ## (The original Raiders Of The Lost Ark was indeed excellent, and in my TOD “defense” I haven’t seen any of the Indiana Jones movies again in over 15 or 20 years, so maybe if I was to watch Temple Of Doom again I would feel differently today)
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> I also think that Burger King’s french fries are excellent, the best large chain fries around—I don’t eat meat, so I can’t say anything about any of the other Burger King offerings, but I take my parents to BK every couple of weeks, where they split a Whopper Combo and I will often get an order of fries and a Coke. The fries are always perfect, and my parents really like the burger.
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> Like Temple Of Doom, I didn’t realize that Burger King was supposedly awful, at least according to most Dopers…

You are aware that BK offers a vegetarian burger, right? Next time, you can get a BK Veggie! It’s the only fast food place that actually offers a real vegetarian option, aside from salad + fries. My only criticism is they nuke it. It would be so much tastier if they char broiled it like they do the meat burgers, except the meat juices would contaminate the veggie burgers, thus defeating the purpose. I order it with all the Whopper fixings – it kind of sucks unless you add a bunch of toppings to it.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-hates-it-its-notoriously-bad-yet-you-love-it/594536/83 "2011-08-30T15:32:02Z")

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> [@KRC](#):
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> I eat spam and I even came up with a recipe:
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> Chop spam. Put in pan and fry.  
> When spam turns brown, throw in raisins and chopped bits of a pear.  
> Add vanilla extract and cinnamon. Wait one minute. Done! There’s your breakfast.
> 
> But for some reason I never could get anyone else to try the recipe.

This is going to be my breakfast on Sunday, with a nice hot cup of tea. Well, I might substitute apples for pears. But other than that - breakfast!

ETA: Maybe I’ll add pineapples. Pineapples are tasty!

ETA again: Now I’m hungry. Is it Sunday yet?

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**Author:** ![Gedd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gedd/32/4938_2.png) [@Gedd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gedd)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-hates-it-its-notoriously-bad-yet-you-love-it/594536/84 "2011-08-30T16:07:10Z")

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I’m not sure how many people hate it, but I love Taco Bell. Yummy.

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**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-hates-it-its-notoriously-bad-yet-you-love-it/594536/85 "2011-08-30T16:24:05Z")

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> [@Gedd](#):
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> I’m not sure how many people hate it, but I love Taco Bell. Yummy.

Taco Bell gets a TON of hate on the board, but I’m with you. When I’m poor, I can get lots of good (not gourmet) food for 3, 4, or 5 bucks, and when I’m flush, I can splurge, and get a lot of better food for 10 bucks. I only wish they hadn’t eliminated the chili-cheese burrito. Fuck, that was good…

Joe

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**Author:** ![MegaBee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@MegaBee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MegaBee)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-hates-it-its-notoriously-bad-yet-you-love-it/594536/86 "2011-08-30T16:31:57Z")

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> [@wheresgeorge04](#):
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> Taco Bell gets a TON of hate on the board, but I’m with you. When I’m poor, I can get lots of good (not gourmet) food for 3, 4, or 5 bucks, and when I’m flush, I can splurge, and get a lot of better food for 10 bucks. I only wish they hadn’t eliminated the chili-cheese burrito. Fuck, that was good…
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> Joe

Taco Bell will substitute beans for beef, too, which opens up the majority of their menu to vegetarians.

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**Author:** ![congodwarf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@congodwarf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/congodwarf)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-hates-it-its-notoriously-bad-yet-you-love-it/594536/87 "2011-08-30T16:31:58Z")

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Leonard Part 6.

I think that Papa Ginos’ cheese pizza is the best pizza ever created and I’d eat it every day if I got the chance.

There are so many things that I agree with in this thread (lima beans, turnips, Temple of Doom, Spam, Vienna Sausages, Taco Bell, and on and on).

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**Author:** ![geneb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a88e4f/32.png) [@geneb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/geneb)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-hates-it-its-notoriously-bad-yet-you-love-it/594536/88 "2011-08-30T16:34:28Z")

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> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#):
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> …  
> “American Pie” (the song)

People hate “American Pie”? I love that song. Never knew it was hated. Same with Waterworld and a lot of other mentions. (Limas, Indiana Jones, Taco Bell, etc.)

I do understand hate for Haggis, though. I had it once and it tasted like my bathroom smells after a trip to Taco Bell for bean burritos.

I love Arby’s. I hear a lot of hate for them. When I was a kid we’d get it once a year because it was so expensive, but we all loved it. I would have rather gone to Arby’s than go to a sit down restaurant.

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**Author:** ![cjepson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a9adbd/32.png) [@cjepson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cjepson)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-hates-it-its-notoriously-bad-yet-you-love-it/594536/89 "2011-08-30T17:07:29Z")

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> [@mkecane](#):
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> I don’t get why this would be a problem. Ho Hos are great, and I think _TSMR_ is the Stones best album; it’s certainly my favorite of theirs. I don’t get the connection between the two, however.

No connection except that both have received quite a bit of disdain. In my experience, Ho Hos (and their ilk) are one of a very few foods that people seem to feel an insurmountable urge to scoff at when they see an adult buying or consuming them. _Satanic Majesties_ was pretty much universally panned when it came out and has gained a reputation as a monumental failure, a classic example of the worst excesses of psychedelia, and a cautionary tale of what can happen when a good band tries to follow trends and make music that is outside their skill set. As I said, though, I love it.

By the way, just to show my breadth of taste, I also love boiled beets, mashed turnips, and Brussels sprouts, and I really like Kentucky Fried Chicken. And I used to _ **work** _ there.

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**Author:** ![gurujulp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ba9def/32.png) [@gurujulp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gurujulp)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-hates-it-its-notoriously-bad-yet-you-love-it/594536/90 "2011-08-30T17:35:35Z")

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I like almost everything here- and am blown away by the fact that apparently some people think some of the best bits of things are bad…

Tom Bombadil was an unbelievable, great wonderful character who should have gotten soooo much more book time…

And really, a whole lot of this thread…

I haven’t tried haggis, but that is as I haven’t been offered the option, ever.

The only ones I would have to say I DON’T like from this list are Jar-Jar (he should die, and george with him, although now that I have kids, I am more accepting), ketchup on steak and Beiber- and I don’t even hate Beiber, just don’t like him.

The other stuff… I don’t know- none of it is bad. I wanna see the cites that say this stuff isn’t appreciated!

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**Author:** ![Bumbazine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bumbazine/32/362_2.png) [@Bumbazine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bumbazine)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-hates-it-its-notoriously-bad-yet-you-love-it/594536/91 "2011-08-30T17:46:16Z")

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Fruitcake.  
Although I will admit that some ‘bakers’ make it difficult sometimes, by trying to pass off cheaped-out imitations of real fruitcake.

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**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-hates-it-its-notoriously-bad-yet-you-love-it/594536/92 "2011-08-30T17:50:33Z")

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I love Marshmallow Peeps. And Spam. And Subway sandwiches. In fact, I think I’ll have a Subway sandwich for lunch today.

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**Author:** ![JoelUpchurch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f05b48/32.png) [@JoelUpchurch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoelUpchurch)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-hates-it-its-notoriously-bad-yet-you-love-it/594536/93 "2011-08-30T18:09:12Z")

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> [@Asimovian](#):
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> _Mad Dog Time/Trigger Happy_, which I believe was universally panned. But I own it, and it makes me laugh. I love Richard Dreyfuss in this.
> 
> Here’s a link to[Roger Ebert’s 0 stars review](http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19961129/REVIEWS/611290303/1023) (contains…spoilers?).

Ebert gave **Battle: Los Angles** 1/2 a star and I actually liked it. Going in with low expectations actually helps sometimes. I thought it was a lot better than **Skyline**.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-hates-it-its-notoriously-bad-yet-you-love-it/594536/94 "2011-08-30T18:19:22Z")

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> [@JoelUpchurch](#):
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> Ebert gave **Battle: Los Angles** 1/2 a star and I actually liked it. Going in with low expectations actually helps sometimes. I thought it was a lot better than **Skyline**.

Being better than Skyline is not something I’d consider to be a deep challenge, but that’s probably a topic for another thread (I actually wanted to see B:LA but no one would see it with me because of the reviews it got). 🙂

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**Author:** ![slightly\_askew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d07c76/32.png) [@slightly\_askew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slightly_askew)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-hates-it-its-notoriously-bad-yet-you-love-it/594536/95 "2011-08-30T18:35:16Z")

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Grease 2 – I was young and saw it before I saw the original. The songs are fun and there isn’t much thought required. My kind of movie!

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-hates-it-its-notoriously-bad-yet-you-love-it/594536/96 "2011-08-30T20:36:05Z")

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> [@KRC](#):
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> I eat spam and I even came up with a recipe:
> 
> Chop spam. Put in pan and fry.  
> When spam turns brown, throw in raisins and chopped bits of a pear.  
> Add vanilla extract and cinnamon. Wait one minute. Done! There’s your breakfast.
> 
> But for some reason I never could get anyone else to try the recipe.

This would be utterly foul to me NOT because of the Spam, but because of the raisins. Raisins are the devil in dried fruit form.

And mine is mac and cheese from a box. I won’t say “everyone hates it,” because that’s certainly not true, but it ain’t gourmet, that’s for sure.

And add me to the list of people who prefer canned tuna over a tuna steak. Not that I don’t like the latter, but the former is just so much more comforting.

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**Author:** ![Avarie537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/48db29/32.png) [@Avarie537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avarie537)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-hates-it-its-notoriously-bad-yet-you-love-it/594536/97 "2011-08-30T21:55:53Z")

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Lima beans, Brussels sprouts, turnips, cabbage, Taco Bell, good fruitcake, and Barbarella.

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**Author:** ![JoelUpchurch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f05b48/32.png) [@JoelUpchurch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoelUpchurch)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-hates-it-its-notoriously-bad-yet-you-love-it/594536/98 "2011-08-30T21:58:09Z")

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> [@Asimovian](#):
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> Being better than Skyline is not something I’d consider to be a deep challenge, but that’s probably a topic for another thread (I actually wanted to see B:LA but no one would see it with me because of the reviews it got). 🙂

I couldn’t make it all the way through **Skyline** , but **B:LA** was okay. That is not to say that **Source Code** or the **The Adjustment Bureau** weren’t much better. The nice thing about Netflix and Redbox, is that you don’t feel financially committed to watching a whole movie once you decide it sucks.

One movie I decided to try off Netflix was **The Big Bang** with Antonio Banderas.  
It turned out to be Film Noire mixed with quantum physics. I actually ended up liking that.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-hates-it-its-notoriously-bad-yet-you-love-it/594536/99 "2011-08-30T22:00:47Z")

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I like:

- Disco
- Barry Manilow
- Lima beans, cauliflower, and broccoli
- The _Swamp Thing_ TV series
- McDonald’s cheeseburgers (though not as much as I used to when they were much greasier and less salty).

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-hates-it-its-notoriously-bad-yet-you-love-it/594536/100 "2011-08-30T22:41:30Z")

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> [@Avarie537](#):
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> cabbage

Who doesn’t love cabbage? I’m pretty sure it’s my favorite vegetable.

So here’s mine: I couldn’t put down _The Da Vinci Code_.

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