# Everyone knows what the "33" means on the Rolling Rock bottles..... **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [July 31, 2000, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-knows-what-the-33-means-on-the-rolling-rock-bottles/27608 "2000-07-31T21:17:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Mojo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mojo)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2000, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-knows-what-the-33-means-on-the-rolling-rock-bottles/27608/1 "2000-07-31T21:17:30Z")
But what’s the “800” in _Olde English Brand “800”_ represent? I had thought O.E. was a product of the Pabst Brewing Company but they don’t list it on their website. ---
**Author:** ![flacomalo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/53a042/32.png) [@flacomalo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flacomalo)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-knows-what-the-33-means-on-the-rolling-rock-bottles/27608/2 "2003-08-14T06:57:01Z")
This is another question about the number ‘33’ on the rolling rock beer bottles. would this have something to do with the masonic lodge and them unknowingly being a front for the mythical ‘illuminati’ society? Or could it somehow or someway be connected to the masonic lodge by also the"33rd degree mason?" Help me out here; new to this and to how it works. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-knows-what-the-33-means-on-the-rolling-rock-bottles/27608/3 "2003-08-14T07:29:24Z")
[The Master Speaks](http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a2_044.html) ---
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-knows-what-the-33-means-on-the-rolling-rock-bottles/27608/4 "2003-08-14T07:34:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mojo \* > \*\*But what’s the “800” in _Olde English Brand “800”_ represent? \*\* What about **Coqui 900** or **Steel Reserve 211**? Canada has **Labatt 50**. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-knows-what-the-33-means-on-the-rolling-rock-bottles/27608/5 "2003-08-14T12:14:36Z")
**flacomalo** : Drinking Rolling Rock will turn you into a mindless slave of your Friendly Neighborhood Illuminati Masters. If you’re lucky, you’ll end up a drunken fool oblivious to the Master Plan for the World. If you’re unlucky, you’ll become a genetic engineering project waiting for the One Who Dreams in R’lyeh to awaken and consume the world. Or, not. ---
**Author:** ![Philster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/13edae/32.png) [@Philster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Philster)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-knows-what-the-33-means-on-the-rolling-rock-bottles/27608/6 "2003-08-14T12:16:30Z")
Mad Dog 20/20 ? ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Carnage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/max_carnage/32/12775_2.png) [@Max\_Carnage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Carnage)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-knows-what-the-33-means-on-the-rolling-rock-bottles/27608/7 "2003-08-14T12:48:57Z")
Colt 45? 7 Up? Segrams 7? ---
**Author:** ![Popup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Popup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Popup)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-knows-what-the-33-means-on-the-rolling-rock-bottles/27608/8 "2003-08-14T13:04:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Max Carnage \* > **Colt 45?** Calibre > [@](#): > > **7 Up?** [Supposedly seven flavours.](http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a980529b.html) > [@](#): > > \*\*Segrams 7? \*\* _Probably_ named the same way as **VAT69** , i.e. nth attempt at blending. Now, do you have anything substantial to add to the OP? ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-knows-what-the-33-means-on-the-rolling-rock-bottles/27608/9 "2003-08-14T13:25:55Z")
Yeah WD40 was “water displacement 40th attempt”. As far Olde English 800, well I just spent 15 minutes googling and only came up with some Icy Hot Stuntaz type sites. I guess those 16 year old suburban gangstas gotta get their 40 dog on. ---
**Author:** ![Hobie\_the\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e99b99/32.png) [@Hobie\_the\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hobie_the_One)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-knows-what-the-33-means-on-the-rolling-rock-bottles/27608/10 "2003-08-14T13:33:50Z")
O.E. 800 seems to be a product of the [Miller brewing company](http://www.millerbrewing.com/) but they don’t have a link to any further information on it. They do have an option to ask Miller brewing from their home page. Might be worth an effort. One word of warning, you must be 21 to enter their site. H. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Carnage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/max_carnage/32/12775_2.png) [@Max\_Carnage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Carnage)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-knows-what-the-33-means-on-the-rolling-rock-bottles/27608/11 "2003-08-14T13:48:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Popup \* > \*\*Calibre[Supposedly seven flavours.](http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a980529b.html) > _Probably_ named the same way as **VAT69** , i.e. nth attempt at blending. > Now, do you have anything substantial to add to the OP? \*\* Cheez, did I run over your dog or something? ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-knows-what-the-33-means-on-the-rolling-rock-bottles/27608/12 "2003-08-14T14:05:31Z")
How about formula 409? ---
**Author:** ![alimarx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@alimarx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alimarx)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-knows-what-the-33-means-on-the-rolling-rock-bottles/27608/13 "2003-08-14T15:29:03Z")
Hawaii 5-0? Alberto VO5? Levi’s 501s? ---
**Author:** ![postcards](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8e8cbc/32.png) [@postcards](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/postcards)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-knows-what-the-33-means-on-the-rolling-rock-bottles/27608/14 "2003-08-14T16:04:40Z")
Malt liquors, as opposed to beer, always seem to have a number in the brand name. ‘33’ is Rolling Rock lore, not part of the proper name. So the question becomes, why numbers in _any_ malt liquor name? ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Carnage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/max_carnage/32/12775_2.png) [@Max\_Carnage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Carnage)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-knows-what-the-33-means-on-the-rolling-rock-bottles/27608/15 "2003-08-14T18:28:51Z")
Well apparently it’s the calibre according to Popup. ---
**Author:** ![d1a1s1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f6c823/32.png) [@d1a1s1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/d1a1s1)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-knows-what-the-33-means-on-the-rolling-rock-bottles/27608/16 "2003-08-14T18:34:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by alimarx \* > \*\*Hawaii 5-0? > Alberto VO5? > Levi’s 501s? \*\* Hawaii 50 is because Hwaii is the 50th state. Thats all I know. ---
**Author:** ![d1a1s1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f6c823/32.png) [@d1a1s1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/d1a1s1)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-knows-what-the-33-means-on-the-rolling-rock-bottles/27608/17 "2003-08-14T18:34:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by alimarx \* > \*\*Hawaii 5-0? > Alberto VO5? > Levi’s 501s? \*\* Hawaii 50 is because Hawaii is the 50th state. Thats all I know. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2003, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-knows-what-the-33-means-on-the-rolling-rock-bottles/27608/18 "2003-08-14T20:42:03Z")
“oh weee” as we like to call it, is now under the Miller Brewing flag. They bought it when they got Pabst. I called their information line and they said there was no significance to the 800, it was just a name. Go figure. ---
**Author:** ![LSD-25](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d78d45/32.png) [@LSD-25](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSD-25)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2003, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-knows-what-the-33-means-on-the-rolling-rock-bottles/27608/19 "2003-08-15T00:54:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by alimarx \* > \*\*Hawaii 5-0? > Alberto VO5? > Levi’s 501s? \*\* Alberto - Invented by a chemist called Alberto VO5 - Vital Organics Five (the five vital organic moisturisers in the conditioner).