# Everyone should know what an asshole Budget Player Cadet is

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 13, 2014, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027 "2014-04-13T18:22:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2014, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/241 "2014-04-18T21:26:56Z")

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> [@Debaser](#):
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> Lighten up.
> 
> Seriously. Look at post #226 from **Vinyl Turnip** , right before yours. That’s fucking hilarious. Then you go and throw that went blanket on us.

I answered a question posted by a member without making any references to any other specific post or poster and that becomes, (in your odd view), “throwing a wet blanket” on you?  
And you want me to lighten up?  
I didn’t even wave a damp handkerchief in your direction.

> [@Debaser](#):
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> I speak the truth.

I do not ever recall this happening.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2014, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/242 "2014-04-19T12:50:28Z")

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> [@Debaser](#):
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> However, I do think if he were a conservative that he would get piled on in every thread he posted in to the point that he couldn’t participate in any thread without taking it over. He’d be reported often.

So you’re saying the Board membership acts automatically in this fashion - almost like a leftist _immune response_ reaction? And that’s a bad thing because…:dubious: I mean, it’s the approach you say, quite positively, is happening with **BPC** and the late **DtC**. But when similar happens to conservatives, you don’t like it?

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2014, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/243 "2014-04-19T13:35:14Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> the late **DtC**.

Hey. I’ve been in touch with Dio, and he is alive and well.😕

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2014, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/244 "2014-04-19T14:53:11Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Hey. I’ve been in touch with Dio, and he is alive and well.😕

Late, as in no longer on _this board_, not this world.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2014, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/245 "2014-04-19T17:35:33Z")

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> [@Debaser](#):
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> However, I do think if he were a conservative that he would get piled on in every thread he posted in to the point that he couldn’t participate in any thread without taking it over. He’d be reported often. It would lead to a quick banning. Not outright bias by moderators, but just the nature of the SDMB and it’s members and moderators at work.

This doesn’t happen with a rather prominent conservative poster who has also been reviled in the Pit. He posts in other threads on the board largely without comment by other posters. And the moderation staff have taken steps against it when people have attempted to harass him in other forums for his statements here. As we will do for other posters regardless of their political opinions.

In short, your opinion is bullshit.

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2014, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/246 "2014-04-19T17:46:35Z")

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> [@Debaser](#):
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> To be a conservative and post here without getting banned you have to be careful. You have to keep your nose clean. Pick the fights you can win. You can’t make too many mistakes.
> 
> **Budget Player Cadet** simply isn’t intelligent enough to pull that off. He wouldn’t last a week.

Seriously?

Every time I hear people complain about the mods supposedly going after conservative posters I have to laugh.

Leaving aside how many left-wing posters regularly make the exact opposite remark, such as RedFury, don’t they notice how many “race realists” we have who’ve repeatedly put up threads try to prove the alleged intellectual shortcomings of blacks?

What’s the idea? That the mods have gotten together and decided “Ok, here’s the plan guys, we’re going to use these right-wing racists as cover. We let them post here so we can purge all the more moderate right-wingers”?

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2014, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/247 "2014-04-19T19:24:51Z")

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> [@Debaser](#):
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> To be a conservative and post here without getting banned you have to be careful. You have to keep your nose clean. Pick the fights you can win. You can’t make too many mistakes.
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> **Budget Player Cadet** simply isn’t intelligent enough to pull that off. He wouldn’t last a week.

Clothahump.

Now that I have utterly rebutted your assertion, will you retract it?

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2014, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/248 "2014-04-19T21:28:27Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Clothahump.
> 
> Now that I have utterly rebutted your assertion, will you retract it?

I’ll see your Clothahump and raise you a Shodan.

Regards,

MfM

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2014, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/249 "2014-04-19T21:39:52Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> I’ll see your Clothahump and raise you a Shodan.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> MfM

Heh, I trump both of you.

Brazil84.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2014, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/250 "2014-04-19T21:47:49Z")

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Looks like we’re beat, Lobohan.

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**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2014, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/251 "2014-04-19T23:55:47Z")

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> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#):
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> Heh, I trump both of you.
> 
> Brazil84.

Ouch.

Though, don’t forget stalwart **NotfooledbyW**

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2014, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/252 "2014-04-20T04:48:06Z")

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I thought I would have to fold, but then I remembered **adaher**.

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**Author:** ![randompattern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@randompattern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randompattern)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2014, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/253 "2014-04-20T04:51:01Z")

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Well, at least my name hasn’t come up… yet.

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**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2014, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/254 "2014-04-20T13:04:43Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> So you’re saying the Board membership acts automatically in this fashion - almost like a leftist _immune response_ reaction? And that’s a bad thing because…:dubious: I mean, it’s the approach you say, quite positively, is happening with **BPC** and the late **DtC**. But when similar happens to conservatives, you don’t like it?

Yes, I think they are similar, but two different things.

I wouldn’t want to be a member of a board that let **BBC** post without being mocked.

I also wouldn’t want to be a member of a board that only allowed one type of political thought. (On the right or the left.) One thing that left leaning boards like DU and right leaning boards like Tea Party ones have in common is that they suck. You need diversity of thought to make things interesting. However, that doesn’t mean that blatant idiots and assholes like **BBC** should get a pass.

Is that hypocritical? I don’t think so.

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**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2014, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/255 "2014-04-20T13:05:55Z")

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> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#):
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> Every time I hear people complain about the mods supposedly going after conservative posters I have to laugh.

Not only did I not claim this, I specifically said that this isn’t what I think occurs.

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**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2014, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/256 "2014-04-20T13:10:39Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Clothahump.
> 
> Now that I have utterly rebutted your assertion, will you retract it?

I’m not going to get into a contest of which side has more idiots, or who they are by name.

As I said before, I give the mods credit for not targeting conservatives, or those who criticize them. It would be easy for them to do this, but they don’t.

I’ll simply state that IMHO it’s much harder to post here as a conservative than a liberal without attracting negative attention. This is not whining, it’s a simple statement that’s hard to disagree with given the nature of the board.

It amazes me that anyone would seriously claim **BBC** wouldn’t have been banned by now if he were a pro-life conservative for instance. Not because of mod bias, but because the lynch mob forming up around him would be much larger.

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**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2014, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/257 "2014-04-20T13:21:05Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> I answered a question posted by a member without making any references to any other specific post or poster and that becomes, (in your odd view), “throwing a wet blanket” on you?  
> And you want me to lighten up?

Let’s look at the post in question:

> [@tomndebb](#):
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> As long as BPC continued to interact with them and they were not popping into threads on totally unrelated topics to make personal remarks, we were probably not going to judge them to be stalking, _per se_.  
> If BPC stays off topics that other posters will choose to consider ephebophilia and refrains from attempting dark humor that is merely offensive, the matter should die. If he is attacked on those grounds in totally unrelated threads, his attackers should be Modded.

We’re “probably” not stalking, “per se”. But we’ll be modded if we attack him in other threads or if he doesn’t interact with us. Yeah. No wet blanket there.

Finally, on the subject of me telling the truth:

> [@](#):
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> I do not ever recall this happening.

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2014, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/258 "2014-04-20T13:31:27Z")

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The more I think about it, this is sort of unprecedented. We’re in a pit thread about a poster. Yet we’re being vaguely warned we’re “probably” not going to be modded for stalking as long as he “continued to interact with us”, which you advised him not to do.

Plenty of posters have been pitted before who get ripped to shreds and they never even post in the pit thread. Is this no longer allowed?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2014, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/259 "2014-04-20T14:38:02Z")

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Of course it isn’t allowed, if it were, you would be doing it with apparent impunity.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2014, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/260 "2014-04-20T17:16:56Z")

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> [@Debaser](#):
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> We’re “probably” not stalking, “per se”. But we’ll be modded if we attack him in other threads or if he doesn’t interact with us. Yeah. No wet blanket there.

> [@Debaser](#):
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> The more I think about it, this is sort of unprecedented. We’re in a pit thread about a poster. Yet we’re being vaguely warned we’re “probably” not going to be modded for stalking as long as he “continued to interact with us”, which you advised him not to do.
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> Plenty of posters have been pitted before who get ripped to shreds and they never even post in the pit thread. Is this no longer allowed?

You do not appear to be bothering to read what I posted with any effort to understand it.

Is this Pit thread “totally unrelated” to BPC’ behavior? Has anyone been Modded for statements made about him, here? What do you think your point is?

If you are arguing that in a discussion of Creationism, Race Politics, Anthropogenic Global Warming or similar topics, you feel the need to falsely accuse him of pedophilia without Mod intervention, then you are just wrong. If someone pops up in a thread that is “totally unrelated” to the claims of his personal behavior in order to throw out charges against him, I will, indeed, consider that stalking.

Your complaint, here, makes no sense unless you are arguing that once a poster has a reputation that invites disdain, that poster becomes fair game for anyone to bring up his or her reputation on any thread on any topic. Certainly, reputations get dragged into any number of threads on separate topics. A one-off quip is probably going to be let passed, (or, more likely, simply missed), by the staff. However, attacking a poster with claims about the poster’s personal life in threads that do not refer to that life has always been considered poor form and if it is repeated, it will be deemed as stalking or harassment.

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