# Everyone should know what an asshole Budget Player Cadet is **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 13, 2014, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027 "2014-04-13T18:22:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/81 "2014-04-14T06:15:48Z")
Meh. It was just a lame joke. > [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > And it is context. It’s not just dropping a Jew joke. It’s a Jew joke in a thread about vermin ( **the language used by the Nazis in their propaganda** ) Yes, _that’s the joke_. Because the Nazis called the Jews vermin. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/82 "2014-04-14T07:18:17Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > So let BPC come back and explain it was a joke and acknowledge how tone deaf it was in a thread about vermin. Others don’t have to explain his behavior away- let him come back and do it. I would have posted it in that thread if anyone had responded in that thread. They didn’t. Instead, I decided it was prudent not to disrupt it further by apologizing there, and did so instead in the ATMB thread about the topic. I’ll repost it here. > [@Explicitly saying the Jews are vermin earns a note and not a Warning. WTF?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explicitly-saying-the-jews-are-vermin-earns-a-note-and-not-a-warning-wtf/686028/46): > > My parents and grandparents are Jewish. I was learning for a Bar Mitzvah before my 10-year-old self got impudent and decided I couldn’t be bothered to learn the language. This was obviously a stupid joke rather than any attempt at actual racism - I even made it clear that that was the case, and then wrote an actual pest. I don’t know why it’s getting this response. I don’t even think it was the first joke of that type in that thread; you definitely get jokes like this in a lot of such threads (someone else wrote “Politicians” too). It didn’t even disrupt the thread - if it had, I would have pointed out that it was a bad joke and apologized. Hell, I’ll do that anyways - I’m sorry I made a dumb, antisemitic joke. I do think this response is somewhat overblown. And then again: > [@Explicitly saying the Jews are vermin earns a note and not a Warning. WTF?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explicitly-saying-the-jews-are-vermin-earns-a-note-and-not-a-warning-wtf/686028/58): > > Again, I’m sorry. It was a tasteless joke. I read the thread title and and thought “man, this is just begging for a throwaway one-liner gag”. I figured that I wasn’t the only one who thought that. I probably should have known better, but this is the kind of throwaway gag my friends here in Munich (my friends who are _not_ racist, anti-Semitic or the like) are liable to throw out there when we’re sitting around shooting the shit. Anti-Semitic humor is actually rather common here in casual settings - not because Germans hate Jews, but because it’s so clear that any _real_ anti-Semitism will lead to society telling you “go fuck yourself, we don’t want your kind” in no uncertain terms that nobody feels particularly bad about it. It’s like joking about gay stereotypes in your local GSA meeting. Which I think is a healthy attitude. There’s nothing wrong with some throwaway racist jokes so long as the actual racism doesn’t rear its ugly head and everyone understands that it’s, well, a throwaway racist joke. > > I apologize for offending some sensibilities, and I realize that the language of that particular joke pushed it a little further into “malicious” territory than is generally welcome on this board. Now, I’m definitely an abrasive asshole for a variety of reasons (see also: my typical response to incredibly stupid posts - the reason why I’m on such thin ice with the moderators) but racism and anti-semitism are not among them. I made a stupid joke. I’m sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/83 "2014-04-14T07:32:30Z")
> [@Max\_the\_Immortal](#): > > I hadn’t heard about that before this thread. Anyone got a link? Speaking of things I get called an asshole for, **Fenris** is full of shit and I have corrected him and **Drunky Smurf** on numerous occasions. There was one girl, who was 16 at the time. I was 18. Her mother told me she had a mental disorder; this disorder turned out to be GID rather than some sort of actual mental retardation. She was neither illegal by age of consent laws nor distasteful by any reasonable metric, nor incapable of giving informed consent due to mental handicaps. The second one **Fenris** is referring to was, again, 2 years younger than me and not in any way mentally handicapped beyond perhaps suffering from some sort of depression or anxiety disorder or something (undiagnosed). It’s not a stealth brag; in fact, in the most recent thread I _explicitly avoided stating who this person was or my relation to her_. As usual, you couldn’t be more wrong, **Fenris**. Please, can we get back to baselessly calling me a racist? I prefer that to being baselessly called a pedophile. ---
**Author:** ![jimbuff314](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c57346/32.png) [@jimbuff314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimbuff314)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/84 "2014-04-14T07:48:03Z")
You’ve corrected **DrunkySmurf** on many occasions? Damn, dude, you might think about putting in for a name change to something like Sisyphus. ---
**Author:** ![dba\_Fred](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c37758/32.png) [@dba\_Fred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dba_Fred)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/85 "2014-04-14T08:16:16Z")
* * * > [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > \ > Please, can we get back to baselessly calling me a racist? I prefer that to being baselessly called a pedophile. That depends: do reject some underage girls due to their race? _I may be clueless about humor but I do have some standards - there are underage girls I will reject solely on the basis of their race, color or creed._ And where are the underage boys in your stories of conquest? So you’re a **bigot** , too! ---
**Author:** ![dba\_Fred](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c37758/32.png) [@dba\_Fred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dba_Fred)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/86 "2014-04-14T08:24:19Z")
Forgot to add in the edit: And edgier than Cleveland. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/87 "2014-04-14T12:48:43Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Of course, we mustn’t forget that there is one variety of human that is entirely deserving of rough treatment, like being drug out and shot without benefit of a formal warrant. First they came for the Bad Punsters, and I did not speak out— Because I was hiding in the attic. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/88 "2014-04-14T12:58:17Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > I have no idea what you think you are saying. > > I have no real urge to get rid of BPC, but whether or not he is Pitted would not affect my decision. > There was already an ATMB thread on this topic, so banning him for a non-Warning would hardly be a simpler task. The point I see of this thread is as an opportunity to show the members specifically why we should shun **BPC** for the creepy idjit moron he is, and not be surprised if he’s banned for something else, which he will, without forcing readers to have his posting history memorized or to dig through his sordid past. It’s a sort of “the story so far” recap. To me, **BPC** ’s joke was not racist, but fell extraordinarily flat because German gentiles wouldn’t know funny if it bit them in the ass. For instance, their humor is largely based on things biting people in the ass. The virtually identical ATMB thread by the OP was superfluous, partly because nobody reads ATMB. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/89 "2014-04-14T13:05:17Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > That’s pretty random. I didn’t think you were being serious in advocating it in any case. 😃 Not really random at all, I’m amazed we were the first to make the connection to the #CancelColbert bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![Nancarrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c37758/32.png) [@Nancarrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nancarrow)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/90 "2014-04-14T13:20:36Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > No one is that tone deaf. Except for dead babies. /AmIDoingThisRight? ---
**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/91 "2014-04-14T13:33:31Z")
**Budget Player Cadet** will be banned. It’s inevitable. It’s just a matter of how long it will take. He behaves just barely within the rules of the board so as not to be immediately banned so he can troll away. I have no idea why the mods choose to suffer through useless posters like this for a couple years instead of just banning them and getting it over with. If we are to believe him… The guy’s an admitted pedophile who targets handicapped girls, for fuck’s sake. Just get on with the banning. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/92 "2014-04-14T13:42:53Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > The virtually identical ATMB thread by the OP was superfluous, partly because nobody reads ATMB. 😉 Hey, I read it every day! Just after The Barn House, and just before Straight Dope Chicago. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/93 "2014-04-14T14:06:20Z")
> [@Debaser](#): > > If we are to believe him… The guy’s an admitted pedophile who targets handicapped girls, for fuck’s sake. Just get on with the banning. And now he’s conveniently Jewish as well. No wonder he has trouble keeping his pedo stories straight, he’s constantly amending and editing his bio. Oh, and though he lives in Germany he is American and spends a lot of time in Maine, allegedly. The fact that an American guy feels he can go to Munich and make jokes with his German buddies about dead Jews is just disgusting. ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/94 "2014-04-14T14:29:49Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Now, I’m definitely an abrasive asshole for a variety of reasons (see also: my typical response to incredibly stupid posts - the reason why I’m on such thin ice with the moderators) but racism and anti-semitism are not among them. I made a stupid joke. I’m sorry. Fuck you, **Budget Player Cadet**. You’re a useless cunt. [sup]Disclaimer: the above is a joke. It’s an edgy joke because that language is banned in the pit, _and we’re in the pit_. get it? /bismuth[/sup] ---
**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/95 "2014-04-14T14:38:49Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > So I’m guessing it’s the older posters who don’t get that it was a joke, right? > > Remember when your parents got angry at Lenny Bruce for being a potty mouth? This is like the same thing. Edgy satire of racism is okay now. Watch Tosh.0 or really any modern comedian. Are you trying to do the same faux-offensive thing, only about oldsters instead of Jews? If so is an even bigger fail than BPC’s post (and if not, you are silly, and refute your own point by mentioning Lenny Bruce). Anyway, I am pretty old and it was immediately obvious to me that BPC was intending, even if not succeeding, to make a joke. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/96 "2014-04-14T14:43:00Z")
Can we come up with some kind of thing so that if you didn’t want to read some particular guy’s posts, you didn’t have to? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/97 "2014-04-14T15:02:46Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Can we come up with some kind of thing so that if you didn’t want to read some particular guy’s posts, you didn’t have to? We already have that. We get the poster banned. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/98 "2014-04-14T15:11:34Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Speaking of things I get called an asshole for, **Fenris** is full of shit and I have corrected him and **Drunky Smurf** on numerous occasions. There was one girl, who was 16 at the time. I was 18. Except you said in post 414 (linked above) that she was 14. > [@you](#): > > Slight epilogue: she told her mom she wanted to be with me and now I’m not allowed to see her any more. I went to her house to try to say goodbye, and her mom told me “Oh, you’re fine, you’ve done nothing wrong. It’s just that she isn’t ready to have a boyfriend; she has developmental disorders, and she isn’t 15 like she told you”. > > …She told me she was 16… I’m not even going to think too hard about that. I realize you’re unable to keep your stories straight and will lie at any opportunity (like how you’ve suddenly become Jewish to make it ok to drop anti-Jew quips into random conversations), but those are your words, pedo-boy, not mine. Also, [Hypocritical much?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17191716&postcount=21) > [@you again](#): > > Even if it’s a joke. And given the context, you also happen to have quite possibly the worst comedic timing ever. This is like cracking “how many jews can you fit into a VW Beetle” at the Nuremburg trials, at least in terms of appropriateness given the tone of the thread. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/99 "2014-04-14T15:13:40Z")
> [@Penfeather](#): > > Funny, he doesn’t look germane. But he does live in germania. Allegedly. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/100 "2014-04-14T16:14:43Z")
This should have been BPC’s response: > [@](#): > > I sincerely apologize. My attempt at a shock-value joke was ill-considered and I wish I could take it back. I have no excuse and ask the board’s indulgence. Then shut the fuck up. Seriously. There’s no explanation he can give that won’t make this worse. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027.md?page=6)