# Everyone should know what an asshole Budget Player Cadet is **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 13, 2014, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027 "2014-04-13T18:22:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/101 "2014-04-14T17:22:51Z")
> [@njtt](#): > > Are you trying to do the same faux-offensive thing, only about oldsters instead of Jews? If so is an even bigger fail than BPC’s post (and if not, you are silly, and refute your own point by mentioning Lenny Bruce). > > Anyway, I am pretty old and it was immediately obvious to me that BPC was intending, even if not succeeding, to make a joke. No, I was trying to illustrate that if you don’t understand what the current generation thinks is funny, you’ll have difficulty in tracking what’s a joke or not. I don’t see how Lenny Bruce is a refutation of my point, considering that my point is that people of a previous generation can have trouble accepting what a newer generation finds funny. I’m not saying that all older people would have this problem. I’m saying that older people would be more likely to have it, since their version of “edgy” would be Carlin’s banned words, or Pryor saying he wanted to ejaculate when the bomb went off. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/102 "2014-04-14T17:27:22Z")
> [@Debaser](#): > > If we are to believe him… The guy’s an admitted pedophile who targets handicapped girls, for fuck’s sake. Just get on with the banning. Ah but you see pedophiles get extra special consideration and are given extra time to make their case and also the mods don’t want to seem like they are overly critical against someone that might fight a little ignorance. Like what’s his face, that said he could tell that a five year old wanted him to pump her full of jizz or something. > [@Explicitly saying the Jews are vermin earns a note and not a Warning. WTF?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explicitly-saying-the-jews-are-vermin-earns-a-note-and-not-a-warning-wtf/686028/46): > > My parents and grandparents are Jewish. I too am not jewish on my mothers’ second cousins’ pet frogs’ side. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/103 "2014-04-14T17:34:55Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > No, I was trying to illustrate that if you don’t understand what the current generation thinks is funny, you’ll have difficulty in tracking what’s a joke or not. > > I don’t see how Lenny Bruce is a refutation of my point, considering that my point is that people of a previous generation can have trouble accepting what a newer generation finds funny. > > I’m not saying that all older people would have this problem. I’m saying that older people would be more likely to have it, since their version of “edgy” would be Carlin’s banned words, or Pryor saying he wanted to ejaculate when the bomb went off. So, did I die in 1965 or 1972? I need to know so my headstone is accurate. I know from funny. Much modern humor is funny. Offensive can be funny. **BPC** is not funny. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/104 "2014-04-14T17:43:33Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > **Budget Player Cadet** is impervious to reasoned debate and has no demonstrated ability to retreat and acknowledge error when he’s made on, which is not an infrequent occurrence. > > But I have never before heard him say anything that I considered anti-Semitic. I think this is a tone-deaf attempt at humor. This. > [@leftfield6](#): > > Not funny, but I doubt it was expressing BPC’s true feelings about people of Jewish ancestry. And this. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/105 "2014-04-14T18:14:12Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > I’m not saying that all older people would have this problem. I’m saying that older people would be more likely to have it, since their version of “edgy” would be Carlin’s banned words, or Pryor saying he wanted to ejaculate when the bomb went off. Since this board skews older folk, if I remember right from past polls, you’re pretty much calling this entire board a retard. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/106 "2014-04-14T18:46:25Z")
I’ve been looking for a board that skews older folks. Unless that _isn’t_ what the kids are calling it these days. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/107 "2014-04-14T18:54:00Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Since this board skews older folk, if I remember right from past polls, you’re pretty much calling this entire board a retard. So, saying that older people are more likely to have trouble spotting “edgy” humor popular with younger people, which is very different from the edgy humor from when they were younger, is the same thing as calling “the entire board a retard?” I think there is a retard around here. And I think he jerks off into the socks under your desk. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/108 "2014-04-14T19:29:55Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > Not really random at all, I’m amazed we were the first to make the connection to the #CancelColbert bullshit. Now _that’s_ good comedy. > [@Debaser](#): > > If we are to believe him… The guy’s an admitted pedophile who targets handicapped girls, for fuck’s sake. Just get on with the banning. I’m sick and tired of explaining this. Sick. And. Fucking. Tired. Let’s try one more time, and see if the jackasses here on display finally get it. > [@Fenris](#): > > Except you said in post 414 (linked above) that she was 14. Not quite. I quoted her mother as saying something, which turned out to be _not true_. Or I misunderstood her - given what happened that day, that’s entirely possible! If you look back on that thread, it’s pretty obvious that I was confused and unclear on the situation. When the dust settled and the facts were all there, they turned out to be: - She was 16 at the time - She was not mentally handicapped but rather suffering from a disorder - GID, to be precise. It’s really that simple. Speaking of it’s really that simple: look up age of consent laws in Maine, fuckface. Even if you _were_ right (which, I repeat quite emphatically, you are _not_) that I was 18 and she was 14, it _still would be legal_. It would be kind of weird, but let’s get real here - either I’m a pedophile because I broke child statutes, in which case I did not either way; or I’m a pedophile because having sex with someone 4 years younger than you at that age is bizarre, in which case if you look at the thread it’s very clear that _I thought she was 16 up until that point_. Because, and this might come as a shocker to you, _if I knew she was 14 I would not have done it_, for hopefully obvious reasons. Similarly, if I had thought at the time she was mentally handicapped, I _would not have done it_. Give it a fucking rest already. Even if everything you said was true, the worst you could say about it is that I was misinformed (by her) and made a mistake that was just on the right side of the local age of consent laws. But it’s _not_ true. > [@](#): > > Also, [Hypocritical much?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17191716&postcount=21) No, my position is consistent. His joke was in poor taste and context; my joke was as well. They were both very stupid. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/109 "2014-04-14T19:40:33Z")
Anytime you have to cite local laws on age of consent, you’ve already lost the argument. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/110 "2014-04-14T19:43:38Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > Anytime you have to cite local laws on age of consent, you’ve already lost the argument. So you think an 18 year old and a 16 year old is pedophilia? I’m not here to be the BPC fan club, but c’mon, he’s responding to an accusation of a crime. You think the laws are pointless? ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/111 "2014-04-14T19:55:34Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > And now he’s conveniently Jewish as well. > > No wonder he has trouble keeping his pedo stories straight, he’s constantly amending and editing his bio. > > Oh, and though he lives in Germany he is American and spends a lot of time in Maine, allegedly. The fact that an American guy feels he can go to Munich and make jokes with his German buddies about dead Jews is just disgusting. I found it a bit weird that he chose to identify his parents as being Jewish but not himself? BTW, what’s this about him being a pedo who goes after handicapped girls? Is there a link? ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/112 "2014-04-14T19:59:51Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > So you think an 18 year old and a 16 year old is pedophilia? > > I’m not here to be the BPC fan club, but c’mon, he’s responding to an accusation of a crime. You think the laws are pointless? Too late, you’re in the club. Your membership kit is on its way. Pedophila?\* No, of course not. Somebody who should be using better judgement in who they date? Yes. And that’s if we believe this new version of his story, but I don’t know why this one should be considered any more legit than the others. He very clearly said that he thought she was 16, but the mom told him she wasn’t 15 like he thought. Why would a Mom warn an 18 year old that her daughter was OLDER than he thought? It was pretty clear at the time he shared that gem of a story, and since, that the girl was 14. \*And now I’ll point out that any time you have to bring up the different between a pedophile and whatever the thing is with older more developed kids - you’ve also lost the argument. Just don’t fuck minors, guys. Especially the retarded ones. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/113 "2014-04-14T20:01:35Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > I found it a bit weird that he chose to identify his parents as being Jewish but not himself? > > BTW, what’s this about him being a pedo who goes after handicapped girls? > > Is there a link? Post 68, above. Note that it should read “post 44” not “post 414” He keeps changing his story and keeps trying to defend the morality of his actions by stating that it was ok under such-and-such law. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/114 "2014-04-14T20:03:02Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > Too late, you’re in the club. Your membership kit is on its way. > > Pedophila?\* No, of course not. Somebody who should be using better judgement in who they date? Yes. > > And that’s if we believe this new version of his story, but I don’t know why this one should be considered any more legit than the others. He very clearly said that he thought she was 16, but the mom told him she wasn’t 15 like he thought. Why would a Mom warn an 18 year old that her daughter was OLDER than he thought? It was pretty clear at the time he shared that gem of a story, and since, that the girl was 14. Note that in several threads BPC refers to the daughter as “he”…so…someone’s confused and I don’t think it’s the daughter. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/115 "2014-04-14T20:05:48Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > Too late, you’re in the club. Your membership kit is on its way. > > Pedophile? No, of course not. Somebody who should be using better judgement in who they date? Yes. > > And that’s if we believe this new version of his story, but I don’t know why this one should be considered any more legit than the others. He very clearly said that he thought she was 16, but the mom told him she wasn’t 15 like he thought. Why would a Mom warn an 18 year old that her daughter was OLDER than he thought? It was pretty clear at the time he shared that gem of a story, and since, that the girl was 14. Perhaps. But I generally hate people for what they do willingly, not as the result of acting on flawed information. In any case, your comment was nonsense. Like much of the outrage here. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/116 "2014-04-14T20:08:34Z")
What are the chances that the entirety of **BPC** is nothing more than an act? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/117 "2014-04-14T20:22:30Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > whatever the thing is with older more developed kids ephebophilia. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/118 "2014-04-14T20:27:30Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > ephebophilia. Would that even apply to a 16 and 18 year old pairing? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/119 "2014-04-14T20:45:01Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > What are the chances that the entirety of **BPC** is nothing more than an act? “My God! That’s the most horrific, depraved, perverted act I’ve ever seen! What do you call it?” ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/120 "2014-04-14T20:57:05Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > Too late, you’re in the club. Your membership kit is on its way. > > Pedophila?\* No, of course not. Somebody who should be using better judgement in who they date? Yes. Hey, if that’s the full extent of the claim, I agree - _I should have used better judgment_ (and, to hear it from some others on the board, probably still should). But it’s a far cry from “pedophile”. > [@](#): > > And that’s if we believe this new version of his story, but I don’t know why this one should be considered any more legit than the others. He very clearly said that he thought she was 16, but the mom told him she wasn’t 15 like he thought. Why would a Mom warn an 18 year old that her daughter was OLDER than he thought? It was pretty clear at the time he shared that gem of a story, and since, that the girl was 14. And it’s also clear as day that up until I heard that, I was completely under the impression that she was 16. _Which turned out to be accurate_. > [@](#): > > \*And now I’ll point out that any time you have to bring up the different between a pedophile and whatever the thing is with older more developed kids - you’ve also lost the argument. Just don’t fuck minors, guys. Especially the retarded ones. > [@Fenris](#): > > He keeps changing his story and keeps trying to defend the morality of his actions by stating that it was ok under such-and-such law. Yeah, about both of these… Reading the thread, it was clear that I was 18 and I thought she was 16. _16._ Not 14, not 15, 16. That’s not just legal almost everywhere in the western world, that’s _acceptable_ most everywhere I’ve lived. So calling me a pedophile based on what the word means - an attraction to prepubescent minors - obviously doesn’t fly, but there are god knows how many very stupid people who think “Pedophile” = “someone who violated age of consent laws”. I was considering that maybe that’s what everyone was talking about. Apparently not. Apparently now I’m a pedophile… For some reason. How the hell are _you guys_ defining the term, huh? Look, \*\*Fenris \*\*is a pedophile - he wears his hair funny. **Bob Ducca** is a pedophile - he’s got funky BO. :rolleyes: This is all just stupid, mob-mentality smearing. There’s nothing to it; none of you people who keep ragging on about it have the slightest clue what’s going on. My words before are unchangeable gospel; my words now (despite having had far more time to actually figure out _what the hell happened that summer_) are worthless garbage. Get a life. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027.md?page=7)