# Everyone should know what an asshole Budget Player Cadet is **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 13, 2014, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027 "2014-04-13T18:22:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/121 "2014-04-14T20:58:11Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Now _that’s_ good comedy. > > I’m sick and tired of explaining this. Sick. And. Fucking. Tired. Let’s try one more time, and see if the jackasses here on display finally get it. > > Not quite. I quoted her mother as saying something, which turned out to be _not true_. Or I misunderstood her - given what happened that day, that’s entirely possible! If you look back on that thread, it’s pretty obvious that I was confused and unclear on the situation. When the dust settled and the facts were all there, they turned out to be: > > - She was 16 at the time > - She was not mentally handicapped but rather suffering from a disorder - GID, to be precise. > > It’s really that simple. > > Speaking of it’s really that simple: look up age of consent laws in Maine, fuckface. Even if you _were_ right (which, I repeat quite emphatically, you are _not_) that I was 18 and she was 14, it _still would be legal_. It would be kind of weird, but let’s get real here - either I’m a pedophile because I broke child statutes, in which case I did not either way; or I’m a pedophile because having sex with someone 4 years younger than you at that age is bizarre, in which case if you look at the thread it’s very clear that _I thought she was 16 up until that point_. Because, and this might come as a shocker to you, _if I knew she was 14 I would not have done it_, for hopefully obvious reasons. Similarly, if I had thought at the time she was mentally handicapped, I _would not have done it_. > > Give it a fucking rest already. Even if everything you said was true, the worst you could say about it is that I was misinformed (by her) and made a mistake that was just on the right side of the local age of consent laws. But it’s _not_ true. > > No, my position is consistent. His joke was in poor taste and context; my joke was as well. They were both very stupid. You raped a retarded child? Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/122 "2014-04-14T21:02:23Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Would that even apply to a 16 and 18 year old pairing? Nope. Age of consent is a legal construct that has nothing at all to do with sexual maturity, and being attracted to someone who is sexually mature but underage does not inherently constitute pedophilia or ephebophilia. > [@Fenris](#): > > Note that in several threads BPC refers to the daughter as “he”…so…someone’s confused and I don’t think it’s the daughter. [GID](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_identity_disorder). It’s entirely reasonable to refer to someone as one gender at one point, and as another at a later point. Richard Raskind was a damned fine athlete; he had a killer serve. Renee Richards still had a pretty good serve; she beat Mandlikova and Shriver. Same person, different times, different pronouns. Transitioning is tricky on language. TMYK . ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/123 "2014-04-14T21:48:50Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > You raped a retarded child? > > Regards, > Shodan Relax, he’s not muscling in on your turf. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/124 "2014-04-14T21:55:22Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > You raped a retarded child? > > Regards, > Shodan Don’t worry, you’re not at risk. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/125 "2014-04-14T22:01:37Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Don’t worry, you’re not at risk. What if he pulls his mullet into pigtails? ---
**Author:** ![Missy2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@Missy2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Missy2U)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/126 "2014-04-14T22:22:59Z")
Oh for fuck’s sake, why is anyone even giving this idiot any more attention? ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/127 "2014-04-14T22:30:42Z")
> [@Missy2U](#): > > Oh for fuck’s sake, why is anyone even giving this idiot any more attention? Given how this thread has progressed, you’re gonna need to be more specific. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/128 "2014-04-14T22:50:22Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Hey, if that’s the full extent of the claim, I agree - _I should have used better judgment_ (and, to hear it from some others on the board, probably still should). > > \ > > This is all just stupid, mob-mentality smearing. There’s nothing to it; none of you people who keep ragging on about it have the slightest clue what’s going on. What’s going on is that by your own admission you have an ongoing predilection for [pursuing inappropriate relationships with troubled girls younger than yourself](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=720648). The legality of your relative ages aside, do you not see that that brands you as predatory and manipulative? ---
**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/129 "2014-04-14T23:11:43Z")
There is a recent thread in GQ about whether allied pilots should have disobeyed orders to bomb civillain targets in Germany during the bombing offensive in WW2. **BCP** is a good argument that the campaign should have been given more resources. /EdgierThanA[SpanishGuggenheim](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guggenheim_Museum_Bilbao) ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/130 "2014-04-14T23:21:21Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > I think there is a retard around here. And I think he jerks off into the socks under your desk. Knowing that I’m in your fantasies has got me all horny. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/131 "2014-04-14T23:33:55Z")
I’m sure everyone’s read my **Drunky** / **Lobo** fanfic by now, yes? I re-imagine them as bishounen brothers. It’s hawt. /Edgier than U2 ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/132 "2014-04-14T23:36:36Z")
> [@andros](#): > > I’m sure everyone’s read my **Drunky** / **Lobo** fanfic by now, yes? I re-imagine them as bishounen brothers. It’s hawt. > > /Edgier than U2 “I can’t go swimming with you this late, I’ve got to study for the admission exams!” [/throb] ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/133 "2014-04-14T23:48:21Z")
> [@White SIFL](#): > > Fuck you, **Budget Player Cadet**. You’re a useless cunt. > [sup]Disclaimer: the above is a joke. It’s an edgy joke because that language is banned in the pit, _and we’re in the pit_. get it? > /bismuth[/sup] [Moderating] Yeah, not so much. Don’t call other posters cunts, or say “fuck you” to them in the Pit. No warning issued. [/Moderating] > [@Battle\_Pope](#): > > There is a recent thread in GQ about whether allied pilots should have disobeyed orders to bomb civillain targets in Germany during the bombing offensive in WW2. > > **BCP** is a good argument that the campaign should have been given more resources. > > /EdgierThanA[SpanishGuggenheim](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guggenheim_Museum_Bilbao) [Moderating] This is a bit close to breaking the “no wishing harm on other posters” rule. Let’s watch it with stuff like this, okay? Still not issuing any warnings. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/134 "2014-04-15T00:48:41Z")
[quote=“Miller, post:133, topic:686027”] [Moderating] Yeah, not so much. Don’t call other posters cunts, or say “fuck you” to them in the Pit. No warning issued. [/Moderating] But he did make it clear that it was just an edgy joke. ---
**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/135 "2014-04-15T01:11:33Z")
[quote=“Bob Ducca, post:134, topic:686027”] > [@Miller](#): > > [Moderating] > > Yeah, not so much. Don’t call other posters cunts, or say “fuck you” to them in the Pit. > > No warning issued. > > [/Moderating] > > But he did make it clear that it was just an edgy joke. Yeah, see that’s going to get you no where. You can be edgy, but there is pretty low tolerance here for FUs and cunty language. ---
**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/136 "2014-04-15T03:25:12Z")
[QUOTE=Miller;17289158[Moderating] This is a bit close to breaking the “no wishing harm on other posters” rule. Let’s watch it with stuff like this, okay? Still not issuing any warnings. [/Moderating] [/QUOTE] Noted. Won’t happen again. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/137 "2014-04-15T05:43:28Z")
The mod note has been upgraded to a warning and **Budget Player Cadet** has been put on notice that he is out of rope. > [@Explicitly saying the Jews are vermin earns a note and not a Warning. WTF?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/explicitly-saying-the-jews-are-vermin-earns-a-note-and-not-a-warning-wtf/686028/87): > > To bring this matter to a close, Budget Player Cadet is being formally warned. > > Ellen Cherry meant to go back and assign it but she has been out of town and not able to get back to the board, so I will do it. > > Budget Player Cadet, I must tell you that anything, anything at all, no matter how small it might be, anything that is is any way untoward will be the last thing you will ever do here. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/138 "2014-04-15T06:04:46Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Would that even apply to a 16 and 18 year old pairing? Not strictly, no - it’s not a fetish at thet point. If the 18yo turns 28 and still only wants 16yos then yes. ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/139 "2014-04-15T06:15:41Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > This is what **BPC** is attempting to explain with the /EdgierThanBismuth. /EdgierThanBismuth is a form of meta-textuality, a comment on the “jokiness” of the previous joke. In what has become a hallmark of modern humor, it’s the reflexivity of the statement that is the source of the humor. Part of the reason reflexivity has become so widespread is because it automatically provides a context for humor because it intrinsically contains two levels of narrative, the subject and the comment on the subject. > > Indeed, if it were someone else who made the reply “Jews” and BPC _replied_ with /EdgierThanBismuth, it would at least be mildly amusing because there is a subversion present between the two narratives. The previous replier would have thought their joke was funny, otherwise they would not have made it and BPC would have caused an subversion by cutting down their expectations. However, because both statements were made by BPC, no subversion can happen because we know BPC cannot simultaneously think he is both funny and unfunny. > > As a result, no subversion, no humor. But I hope this proves to you that while, this was an unfunny joke, it’s not an anti-semitic one because the joke is not _about_ Jews, it’s about meta-textuality. You could replace Jews with any other placeholder offensive term and the basic structure of the joke still stands. The real joke is that [Bismuth is only ranks 2-2.5 on the Mohs Hardness Scale.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohs_scale_of_mineral_hardness#Hardness_.28Vickers.29) So clearly, either he has no clue what he’s talking about, or he’s declaring that his joke isn’t very edgy at all – and even then he’s clueless, because his joke was only about as edgy as chalk. > [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > I think we aspire to be a scoatch more mature than 4chan. Fag. /edgier than Chromium, baby! ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2014, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/140 "2014-04-15T08:03:50Z")
> [@Penfeather](#): > > What’s going on is that by your own admission you have an ongoing predilection for [pursuing inappropriate relationships with troubled girls younger than yourself](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=720648). The legality of your relative ages aside, do you not see that that brands you as predatory and manipulative? See, this _is_ a fair complaint, given what I’ve posted. I understand where this comes from. In my defense, in neither case did I notice they were “troubled” before I was emotionally invested in the relationship, and both started when I was 18 - in high school or fresh out of high school. At that point, my circle of friends was largely my friends from high school. I do have problems with sensible relationships - I get too invested too fast, I miss red flags… But I’m not trying to be manipulative, and I’m certainly not trying to be predatory. ☹ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027.md?page=8)