# Everyone should know what an asshole Budget Player Cadet is

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 13, 2014, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027 "2014-04-13T18:22:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/161 "2014-04-16T06:18:34Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> Everyone gets that it was an _attempt_ at a joke.

I’m not prepared to concede that.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/162 "2014-04-16T06:35:47Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> I’m not prepared to concede that.

What was it then?

What did he mean by “/Edgier than Bismuth”?

He waited all this time for his grand debut of his anti-Semitism, and threw out the second line as camouflage to fool silly billies like me?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/163 "2014-04-16T07:24:56Z")

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Well, it worked, didn’t it? Proves that it was intentional.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/164 "2014-04-16T07:31:24Z")

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I’m guessing it wouldn’t be so bad if BPC had suggested he was mock-quoting someone known to have ignorant view on Jews, i.e.  
“Jews.”  
[/melgibson]  
or

“Jews.”  
[/waltdisney]  
…but “edgier than bismuth” essentially says “look how naughty I’m being!” and that turns it from mockery of ignorance to mockery of\* us.\*

Just a theory.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/165 "2014-04-16T07:44:03Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Not \*all \*old people. And certainly not all young people would understand it. If you don’t, that doesn’t mean you’re a shitty person, it means you don’t get something. And tragically, because of that ignorance, what I’d characterize as an injustice got done.

You know, you can “get” a joke and still not think it’s funny.

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/166 "2014-04-16T07:50:35Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Without the outrage overreaction, I find it unlikely that the Mods would have gone further than the note they initially levied.

> [@cochrane](#):
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> Bullshit. The mods didn’t have to do anything. They could have said, “Hajario, you’re overreacting. It was a joke. We’ll let the mod note stand.” They’re not compelled to take action when a poster brings something to their attention. All he did was make them take a second look. He doesn’t have mind control abilities over anyone.

Actually, I would say the biggest reason for the mod action was the warning previously given to **PSXer** for the same joke. If BPC had not gotten a warning there would have been a lot of questions asked about inconsistent decisions.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/167 "2014-04-16T08:00:56Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Not \*all \*old people. And certainly not all young people would understand it. If you don’t, that doesn’t mean you’re a shitty person, it means you don’t get something. And tragically, because of that ignorance, what I’d characterize as an injustice got done.

Oh, boo hoo! Put away your violin. What injustice is being committed? Is BPC losing his life or his liberty? Because that’s what I would characterize as an injustice. Instead he’s been put on notice that he’s one step away from losing his access to a free message board on which he’s already had eight warnings and a suspension in less than three years. He’s already a couple of warnings past the point where banning is inevitable. He’s been fortunate so far in that he’s been allowed to keep hitting the snooze alarm after getting a wakeup call. Excuse me if my ire doesn’t quite match the heat of the Springfield tire fire.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/168 "2014-04-16T09:00:01Z")

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Eight warnings and a suspension? I’m surprised he’s still here, truth be told. Melchior (as far as I know) had less than that and he’s gone, and his views (gay marriage is wrong and only being forced through by idiot liberal judicial activists) weren’t exactly unique on this board.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/169 "2014-04-16T09:47:07Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> his views (gay marriage is wrong and only being forced through by idiot liberal judicial activists) weren’t exactly unique on this board.

I don’t think it was his views so much as his method of arguing them (and his other, unrelated warnings) that got him banned. 5 warnings in 3 short months is quite impressive, really. Shows some effort.

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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/170 "2014-04-16T11:33:38Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> I don’t like being perceived as a pedophile or a pervert…

You should probably cover up all your mirrors, then.

> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Eight warnings and a suspension? I’m surprised he’s still here, truth be told. Melchior (as far as I know) had less than that and he’s gone, and his views (gay marriage is wrong and only being forced through by idiot liberal judicial activists) weren’t exactly unique on this board.

What I wanna know is why **BPC’s** still here despite declaring “All Jews are Vermin,” while **Melchior’s** gone for making fun of… [liberals](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=17288405#post17288405). Seriously, what’s up with that? 😕

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/171 "2014-04-16T11:45:06Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> I’d call that a lie, if you intended to suggest that is an accurate portrayal what I said.
> 
> Not \*all \*old people. And certainly not all young people would understand it. If you don’t, that doesn’t mean you’re a shitty person, it means you don’t get something. And tragically, because of that ignorance, what I’d characterize as an injustice got done.

And I’d call your current statement idiotic, consistent with most of your other comments in both of the threads devoted to this subject.

The ignorance on display here is yours. You are apparently incapable of comprehending that jerkish offensive uncalled-for actions are not automatically okay just because someone was so stupid as to think that something is a joke just because it is all of those things and that jokes are always okay to say. The stupidity that does not understand that, that does not get that “edgy” is not carte blanche to be a jerk, has nothing to do with age, just whether or not one has brain cells that talk to each other.

In any case, again end of day **BPC** is no worse off that he already was: generally the standard, as cited, is that a suspension is the final warning, next stop is being banned. He is still in that same position having gotten yet another warning after suspension and still not banned. So now the suspension was his penultimate warning instead of his final warning … that is the only impact the change to “warning status” has had. If the mods actually ban him for his next offense.

Bottom line is they cut him extra slack whatever they called the behavior. And personally, for the nothing it is worth, I approve: I think a _final_ offense should be more than meh.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/172 "2014-04-16T12:23:54Z")

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> [@buddha\_david](#):
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> What I wanna know is why **BPC’s** still here despite declaring “All Jews are Vermin,” while **Melchior’s** gone for making fun of… [liberals](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=17288405#post17288405). Seriously, what’s up with that? 😕

Well, to hazard a guess, it’s because my offense was an obvious and stated if tasteless and really dumb joke, and **Melchior** ’s was, well, [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=720604). I at least_try_ to make decent posts.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/173 "2014-04-16T12:44:33Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Exactly correct.
> 
> +1 **Hajario** can now be counted among The Offenderatti. Or perhaps he needs an reverse funnybonedectomy.

I’m sure BPC appreciates the spirited defense of the Klan wing of the SDMB.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/174 "2014-04-16T12:57:16Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> I’m sure BPC appreciates the spirited defense of the Klan wing of the SDMB.

If he appreciates the truth being put forth, good for him. Unlike you, who seems to enjoy flat-out lying, as can be seen in the ATMB thread. Don’t worry though, I corrected you, lest your lying be deprived of the bitch-slap it begs for.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/175 "2014-04-16T13:24:16Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> I’m sure BPC appreciates the spirited defense of the Klan wing of the SDMB.

Say what you will about **magellan** (lord knows I have in the past) but he’s not a liar, and he’s not a bully.

Alternatively: wait, I thought NDD got banned?

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/176 "2014-04-16T13:25:56Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> And I’d call your current statement idiotic, consistent with most of your other comments \< snip \>

Apologies for truncating your statement, but this seems more accurate.

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**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/177 "2014-04-16T13:42:56Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> So what?
> 
> One thing that you need to do is stop trying to justify yourself to a bunch of anonymous harpies on a message board. (You would do well to not bring your personal problems to a message board, to begin with, particularly one noted for its high percentage of sarcastic and cynical posters. However, having made that error, your best bet is to ignore the worst of the bunch.)
> 
> There are certain posters who live for the excitement of tearing down other people. They will continue to badger you about stuff you have said just for the fun of demonstrating (to themselves; no one else cares), how superior they are to you.
> 
> Nothing you can say will ever get them to stop.  
> Posting defenses will only whet their appetites for your blood.  
> They are willing to distort your words so that they can attack a version of you that does not exist.
> 
> There is no defense against them, because they are not interested in facts or honest debate.
> 
> Your only viable course is to ignore them:  
> Do not post on your errors in life.  
> Do not try to “explain” what “really” happened or what you “really” said; they do not care and they will only use your words to accuse you of lying or to invent new horrible scenarios for which to attack you.  
> Simply ignore them.  
> Do not bring any such topics up, yourself.  
> If they try to interject those topics into separate discussions, do not respond.  
> Ignore them.
> 
> Anything and everything you post will be used against you. Do not post about your own life. Do not defend your posts or your actions.  
> No one who matters cares. Only the jackals are interested. Why feed them?  
> (Particularly: why feed them your flesh?)

TL;DR.

Here’s an executive summary, **Budget Player Cadet** :

Don’t fuck 14 year olds.

Especially don’t fuck 14 year olds that are developmentally disabled.

If you do, don’t talk about it.

Especially don’t talk about it on this message board where you will be mocked for it.

Simple, really.

I’m not doing those things right now. It’s not hard. You should try it.

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**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/178 "2014-04-16T13:47:07Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> I at least_try_ to make decent posts.

Trying to keep your stories straight isn’t the same thing as trying to make decent posts.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/179 "2014-04-16T14:06:49Z")

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> [@Debaser](#):
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> TL;DR.
> 
> Here’s an executive summary, **Budget Player Cadet** :
> 
> Don’t fuck 14 year olds.
> 
> Especially don’t fuck 14 year olds that are developmentally disabled.
> 
> If you do, don’t talk about it.
> 
> Especially don’t talk about it on this message board where you will be mocked for it.
> 
> Simple, really.
> 
> I’m not doing those things right now. It’s not hard. You should try it.

Basically none of this is true.

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-should-know-what-an-asshole-budget-player-cadet-is/686027/180 "2014-04-16T14:16:42Z")

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If you want to make a joke like that don’t timidly qualify it. Don’t be afraid just because this isn’t 4chan. The post should’ve just been “The Jews.”

Then again, maybe being a pussy saved you from a ban, so whatevs.

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