# Everyone would be better off if you were gay, Argent Towers. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 21, 2005, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-would-be-better-off-if-you-were-gay-argent-towers/313496 "2005-07-21T16:59:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-would-be-better-off-if-you-were-gay-argent-towers/313496/21 "2005-07-21T18:38:28Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Hey, ease up, guys. You know how hard it is to find a woman who considers a two hour rant about _The Phantom Menace_ to be foreplay? Take it from me: it ain’t easy! _snort_ BWAHAHAHAHA! _wiping eyes_ Boy, \*that \* was out of left field. ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-would-be-better-off-if-you-were-gay-argent-towers/313496/22 "2005-07-21T18:40:03Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > It never ceases to amaze me. > > On this board, and in real life, there is no creature as reviled and loathed as the lonely man. Simply say “I wish I could talk to women without freezing up” and out come accusations of misogyny and selfishness, and suggestions that said lonely man go masturbate. > > It’s times like this when I’m not so proud to be a member of this board. It’s times like this when I’m not sure you read the same OP that I did… ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-would-be-better-off-if-you-were-gay-argent-towers/313496/23 "2005-07-21T18:41:55Z")
> [@Who\_me?](#): > > It’s times like this when I’m not sure you read the same OP that I did… Just be sure we’re clear, is it the OP that ended with this? > [@](#): > > Do any woman you’d ever meet a favor and hire a hooker. Buy some lotion and some porn. Turn gay. Go fuck yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-would-be-better-off-if-you-were-gay-argent-towers/313496/24 "2005-07-21T18:47:22Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > Just be sure we’re clear, is it the OP that ended with this? No, I think it was the OP that began with this: > [@](#): > > I’m sick of going on dates or get-togethers with girls and having forced, insincere, petty bullshit conversation. I hate small talk and flirtation. And I hate not being able to have no-strings-attatched sexual hookups with girls. A guy has to take them out, spend money on them, have stupid conversations with them, flatter them and compliment them…and even then, after all that, sex is not guaranteed. He’s not complaining because he gets nervous around women, or the ever-present, absolutely pathetic “Why don’t the girls like nice guys?” whine. He’s complaining because he actually has to put some effort into getting a girl in bed and he doesn’t like having to do that. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-would-be-better-off-if-you-were-gay-argent-towers/313496/25 "2005-07-21T18:49:55Z")
> [@Neurotik](#): > > He’s complaining because he actually has to put some effort into getting a girl in bed and he doesn’t like having to do that. Well, hell. Who _does_ like having to do that? ---
**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-would-be-better-off-if-you-were-gay-argent-towers/313496/26 "2005-07-21T18:50:38Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > It never ceases to amaze me. > > On this board, and in real life, there is no creature as reviled and loathed as the lonely man. Simply say “I wish I could talk to women without freezing up” and out come accusations of misogyny and selfishness, and suggestions that said lonely man go masturbate. > > It’s times like this when I’m not so proud to be a member of this board. Man do you ever have a point! I, for one, absolutly hate those fuckers! More than pedophiles, rapists, murderers, genocidal world leaders, telemarketers, people that make melodramas stupid posts on message boards and republicans put together! Fuck, I wish that they would repeal anti-hate crime and lynching laws just so that we could make an exception for those fuckers that just happen to be single. I hate them so much that I can’t even see straight because a red mist is obscuring my vision. I also have a roaring in my ears that sounds like the screams of the damned! Aaaarg! Why do we even suffer them to walk amongst us? ---
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-would-be-better-off-if-you-were-gay-argent-towers/313496/27 "2005-07-21T18:52:09Z")
tdn, I really feel where you’re coming from, but I’m not sure this is the guy to stick up for. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-would-be-better-off-if-you-were-gay-argent-towers/313496/28 "2005-07-21T18:52:19Z")
> [@Ooner](#): > > Dear Biggirl, > Please no. We do not want this douchebag. You can keep him. > -The Gays > [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > Hey buddy, > Us women don’t want him either. > -The women who enjoy casual sex, but not with creeps. … anxiously awaiting the response from the hooker community… ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-would-be-better-off-if-you-were-gay-argent-towers/313496/29 "2005-07-21T18:52:20Z")
No, mine ended with: > [@](#): > > And yet, I have absolutely no sexual attraction towards men. None whatsoever. Not the slighest bit. I wish there was a tiny glimmer of arousal when I saw a handsome and well-toned male physique, but there is none. I’m still straight. And I’m still going to have to settle for the straight dating life, which I hate. God dammit. And had nice little bits like: > [@](#): > > I’m sick of going on dates or get-togethers with girls and having forced, insincere, petty bullshit conversation. I hate small talk and flirtation. And I hate not being able to have no-strings-attatched sexual hookups with girls. A guy has to take them out, spend money on them, have stupid conversations with them, flatter them and compliment them…and even then, after all that, sex is not guaranteed. I mean **AT** didn’t say that he felt uncomfortable talking to women, he went way past that into la-la land. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-would-be-better-off-if-you-were-gay-argent-towers/313496/30 "2005-07-21T18:52:44Z")
What’s your point? ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-would-be-better-off-if-you-were-gay-argent-towers/313496/31 "2005-07-21T18:54:05Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > What’s your point? That was directed at **BinaryDrone**. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-would-be-better-off-if-you-were-gay-argent-towers/313496/32 "2005-07-21T18:55:10Z")
> [@miss elizabeth](#): > > tdn, I really feel where you’re coming from, but I’m not sure this is the guy to stick up for. Yeah, he went a little off the rails there. But my point stands. ---
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-would-be-better-off-if-you-were-gay-argent-towers/313496/33 "2005-07-21T18:55:36Z")
never mind, tdn. You don’t get it at all. ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-would-be-better-off-if-you-were-gay-argent-towers/313496/34 "2005-07-21T18:57:09Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > Yeah, he went a little off the rails there. But my point stands. I’d put it at more like a 50 car derailment. ---
**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-would-be-better-off-if-you-were-gay-argent-towers/313496/35 "2005-07-21T18:57:13Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > What’s your point? Sarcastic mocking: never explain, never apologize ---
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-would-be-better-off-if-you-were-gay-argent-towers/313496/36 "2005-07-21T18:57:46Z")
I mean, if you don’t like having to put effort into fucking some chick, well then don’t. Unless you were joking, in which case I apologise. But, c’mon! It’s a two way street… ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-would-be-better-off-if-you-were-gay-argent-towers/313496/37 "2005-07-21T18:58:13Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > Yeah, he went a little off the rails there. But my point stands. Can you please quote exactly what it is he said that made you think he just gets nervous talking to women? Because I’m not seeing that at _all_. ---
**Author:** ![Liz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/liz/32/17737_2.png) [@Liz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liz)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-would-be-better-off-if-you-were-gay-argent-towers/313496/38 "2005-07-21T19:01:23Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > … anxiously awaiting the response from the hooker community… Dear Sir: Your card was declined. Again. We’ll be sending someone to speak with you about this shortly. Sincerely, Do It All 4 NE1 Brothel P.S. Don’t worry, it’ll be a man. Several of them. ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-would-be-better-off-if-you-were-gay-argent-towers/313496/39 "2005-07-21T19:02:11Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > Well, hell. Who _does_ like having to do that? I dunno. I don’t mind it. I especially don’t mind it to the point where I have to go off on how I hate having to even talk or discuss anything with women because they bore me intellectually. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-would-be-better-off-if-you-were-gay-argent-towers/313496/40 "2005-07-21T19:02:51Z")
> [@miss elizabeth](#): > > I mean, if you don’t like having to put effort into fucking some chick, well then don’t. Unless you were joking, in which case I apologise. But, c’mon! It’s a two way street… It was a half joke. Yes, I do find it worth it to put in the effort. And sometimes I don’t, so I don’t bother. But yeah, it would be great if women bestowed their sexual favors on me with no effort on my part. I’d also like to get paychecks for watching TV. I’d also like to rent-free in a mansion on the Riviera. Wouldn’t you? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-would-be-better-off-if-you-were-gay-argent-towers/313496.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everyone-would-be-better-off-if-you-were-gay-argent-towers/313496.md?page=3)