# Everything Louder Than Everything Else
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everything-louder-than-everything-else/295481
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [March 20, 2005, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everything-louder-than-everything-else/295481 "2005-03-20T22:59:42Z")
**Posts on this page:** 9
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### Author:  [@11811](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/11811)
#### Post date: [March 20, 2005, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everything-louder-than-everything-else/295481/1 "2005-03-20T22:59:42Z")
Where did this phrase come from? It’s the name of the editorial column in Revolver Magazine, it’s part of a lyric by Jim Steinman, and it’s the name of a Motorhead album. Which came first?
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### Author:  [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)
#### Post date: [March 20, 2005, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everything-louder-than-everything-else/295481/2 "2005-03-20T23:10:21Z")
It sure sounds like a Motörhead original, but their album title is _Everything Louder than Everyone Else_. The album came out in '99.
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### Author:  [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)
#### Post date: [March 21, 2005, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everything-louder-than-everything-else/295481/3 "2005-03-21T00:45:02Z")
It’s said on stage in **Deep Purple** ’s live double album _Made In Japan_, released in 1972.
Ian Gillan asks the sound guy for more of this, more of that, and “more monitor if you’ve got it”. The sound guy replies with something inaudible, and Gillan says with a laugh “yeah, can we have everything louder than everything else” - presumably repeating what the sound guy said.
So it seems the actual origin is one of the sound guys at that concert in the early 70s in Tokyo.
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### Author:  [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)
#### Post date: [March 21, 2005, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everything-louder-than-everything-else/295481/4 "2005-03-21T03:45:56Z")
The Jim Steinman lyric is the name of one of the tracks on Meatloaf’s Bat Out of Hell II Back Into Hell. It came out in 1993 according to what I found on line.
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### Author:  [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)
#### Post date: [March 21, 2005, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everything-louder-than-everything-else/295481/5 "2005-03-21T05:13:29Z")
> [@Rick](#):
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> The Jim Steinman lyric is the name of one of the tracks on Meatloaf’s Bat Out of Hell II Back Into Hell. It came out in 1993 according to what I found on line.
I don’t know if the line is a Steinman original, but if it was it very well might have been around much longer than that. A large portion of the tracks on Bat out of Hell II had been released in 1981 on Jim Steinman’s own album Bad for Good. I wouldn’t be surprised if most of the rest of BOOH had been written long before its recording/release.
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### Author:  [@Small\_Clanger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Small_Clanger)
#### Post date: [March 21, 2005, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everything-louder-than-everything-else/295481/6 "2005-03-21T10:43:12Z")
> [@Askance](#):
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> So it seems the actual origin is one of the sound guys at that concert in the early 70s in Tokyo.
Ex sound-guy here. This phrase is as old as the hills (it may even pre-date rock bands) and I doubt that you’ll find a definitive first use. It’s the sound guy’s standard description of the only mix that will satisfy every member of the band.
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### Author:  [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)
#### Post date: [March 24, 2005, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everything-louder-than-everything-else/295481/7 "2005-03-24T20:38:53Z")
> [@Eonwe](#):
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> I don’t know if the line is a Steinman original, but if it was it very well might have been around much longer than that.
Indeed, as I’ve already posted one from 1972.
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### Author:  [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)
#### Post date: [March 24, 2005, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everything-louder-than-everything-else/295481/8 "2005-03-24T20:50:33Z")
> [@Small Clanger](#):
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> Ex sound-guy here. This phrase is as old as the hills (it may even pre-date rock bands) and I doubt that you’ll find a definitive first use. It’s the sound guy’s standard description of the only mix that will satisfy every member of the band.
Alright, but my cite stands as the oldest published appearance so far.
Obviously it can’t predate amplified performances, so for instance I doubt it could come from as far back as the big band era, as the players were not individually miked (and probably had no say over their sound anyway). The rock’n’roll era would be about as far back as it could be, say 1955.
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### Author:  [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)
#### Post date: [March 25, 2005, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everything-louder-than-everything-else/295481/9 "2005-03-25T00:39:41Z")
> [@Askance](#):
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> Indeed, as I’ve already posted one from 1972.
My bad… not reading clearly or completely. 🙂