# Everything's broken. Everything sucks.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everythings-broken-everything-sucks/306721>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 3, 2005, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everythings-broken-everything-sucks/306721 "2005-06-03T14:31:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2005, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everythings-broken-everything-sucks/306721/61 "2005-06-03T23:25:07Z")

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> [@UncleBeer](#):
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> A) Yippee for you. But one (tiny) cavity isn’t **seven**.  
> B) Three months elapsed between no cavities and seven.
> 
> Four things can be happening here:
> 
> 1. We’re not getting the full story from tdn
> 2. tdn is lying
> 3. The dentist is incompetent
> 4. The dentist is a crook.
> 
> None of these are mutually exclusive. All four could be true.

The reason I pointed out the genetic comment is that some people are just born with bad teeth, and I \*have \* heard of teeth going excessively bad in less than six months. Just ask your dentist for his horror stories. Also, if you are going to ask for a point-by-point defense by \*\*tdn \*\* re his teeth, then I’d like to see your dentist’s certificate, please.

And what reason is there for not saying this before and direct implying \*\*tdn \*\*  
is lying? I highly doubt \*\*tdn \*\* is lying, considering what I’ve seen of him on the boards.

Anyway, walk a mile in someone else’s shoes. Out of your four things, the first one is your weakest: we’re not getting the full story from **tdn**. I didn’t know he had to give you a line-by-line description to bitch a little. His hobby is wrecked, and so are his teeth, he decides to rant about it a little and you come in here accusing him of being a liar?

You, sir, are being a dick. There. I feel better now.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2005, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everythings-broken-everything-sucks/306721/62 "2005-06-03T23:32:47Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> There, is that better? Or do I need to print that out on a two by four and smack you upside the head with it?

You need to take that two by four and stick it up your ass for all I care.

You stated that you didn’t have the money and you will **never** see the money so now you want to make it **my** mistake for concluding that you couldn’t **pay** the money?

When you make statements like that maybe you need to follow the \*\* idiotic advice of a shithead like metacom\*\* and get affidavits or \*\* state the facts correctly in the first place\*\*

Unlike you I have hobbies and, unlike you and your trains, I have the competence to make them work. Come to think of it, I can’t remember when any personal indulgence of mine interfered with the health and welfare of me or my family. From your post its obvious that your hobbies took money away from your ability to fix your health issues.

And, again, I’m not defending **Unclebeer** as much as I aknowleding that it’s easy to see from your post how he interprets your situation.

I rarely retract anything I say on the SMDB but please let me retract my wishes where I “hope the best for you”. You don’t appear to have the common sense to figure out things on your own so maybe it would be best if you continue to blame fate for your problems instead of intelligently working your way out of them.

I think you had it right in your first post. Your pit threads make you sound like a complete looney.

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**Author:** ![Ink\_a\_dink\_a\_dink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ec9cab/32.png) [@Ink\_a\_dink\_a\_dink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ink_a_dink_a_dink)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2005, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everythings-broken-everything-sucks/306721/63 "2005-06-03T23:47:03Z")

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Christ.

From one who DOES NOT HAVE GENETIC GOOD GENES FOR TEETH:

It is MORE than possible to have seven teeth go to pot within six months.

And I have over $75,000 in lifetime dental bills to back it up. So Fucko Off.

I was the final project/thesis for three Marquette Dental School students (three years running), I’ve been having dental roblems since I was FIVE, and each time I think I’ve gotten it stabilized, something new goers wrong.

So now I am paying $40,000 OUT OF POCKET to cap and crown every goddamned tooth in my head. Will he get the $40,000 in one check? Fuck no. Will e allow payments? Yes.

Seems to make some logical sense, there, doesn’t it.

Some people are making asses of themselves because they don’t understand how pervasive decay can be with no outward manifestation. No names needed - we all recognize of whom I speak.

Grow some decency. When come back, bring some sugar-free Kool Aid.

Pissed,

Inky

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2005, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everythings-broken-everything-sucks/306721/64 "2005-06-03T23:53:10Z")

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> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> You stated that you didn’t have the money and you will **never** see the money so now you want to make it **my** mistake for concluding that you couldn’t **pay** the money?

You’re right, that’s a very easy conclusion to draw from **tdn** ’s OP. If, y’know, you’ve got some sort of congenital mental defect, or have suffered severe head trauma recently.

So, what’s your excuse?

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2005, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everythings-broken-everything-sucks/306721/65 "2005-06-03T23:54:00Z")

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> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> When you make statements like that maybe you need to follow the \*\* idiotic advice of a shithead like metacom\*\* and get affidavits or \*\* state the facts correctly in the first place\*\*
> 
> Unlike you I have hobbies and, unlike you and your trains, I have the competence to make them work. Come to think of it, I can’t remember when any personal indulgence of mine interfered with the health and welfare of me or my family. From your post its obvious that your hobbies took money away from your ability to fix your health issues.  
> .

You are an ass. You really think he needs to give you every little detail right away? It was quite clear to me that when he said “I’ll never see that” he meant, simply, that he wouldn’t. And he isn’t going to, see, because…  
_He’s going to pay in increments_. He will \*never \* have all that money at once. And he won’t see it, since it’s all going to the dentist.

Jesus Christ on a pogo stick, it must be fucking nice to be so rich that you never have to worry. Us poorer people like to have the occasional hobby and if you live in the US you know what a shocker our medical coverage (or lack thereof) can be.

I hate your superciliousness. You think you manage your money so nicely and we should all follow suit. Well, I got news for you, brother. Take your goddamn money & budgeting skills and shove them up your ass. I am in a decent financial situation and like to have a few hobbies; yet if I had a serious medical dilemna in the US I’d probably be broke or deeply in debt. Yet I am not going to give up all my hobbies for the \*possibility \* of something happening tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2005, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everythings-broken-everything-sucks/306721/66 "2005-06-04T00:14:06Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> You’re right, that’s a very easy conclusion to draw from **tdn** ’s OP. If, y’know, you’ve got some sort of congenital mental defect, or have suffered severe head trauma recently.
> 
> So, what’s your excuse?

Ya know, I’m starting to doubt my thought process. Maybe there is some head tauma issue. I’m still having trouble with the logic behind:

1. Don’t have money
2. Won’t ever have money
3. That does’nt mean I won’t be able to give that money to the people that I owe.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2005, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everythings-broken-everything-sucks/306721/67 "2005-06-04T00:21:33Z")

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> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> Ya know, I’m starting to doubt my thought process. Maybe there is some head tauma issue. I’m still having trouble with the logic behind:
> 
> 1. Don’t have money
> 2. Won’t ever have money
> 3. That does’nt mean I won’t be able to give that money to the people that I owe.

2b. Because I gave it to the people to whom I’m in debt.

Fuck, dude, it is not a hard concept to grasp.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2005, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everythings-broken-everything-sucks/306721/68 "2005-06-04T00:23:42Z")

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> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> You stated that you didn’t have the money and you will **never** see the money so now you want to make it **my** mistake for concluding that you couldn’t **pay** the money?

No, you concluded that he _wouldn’t_ pay the money. You said that he “[p]lans to bail” on his financial commitments, a turn of phrase that strongly implies deliberate avoidance. And anyone with more than three functioning neurons could tell that his lament about money was a reference to budgetary difficulites and contained some hyperbole, and that he was not expressing an intention to skip out on his debts.

> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> Unlike you I have hobbies and, unlike you and your trains, I have the competence to make them work. Come to think of it, I can’t remember when any personal indulgence of mine interfered with the health and welfare of me or my family. From your post its obvious that your hobbies took money away from your ability to fix your health issues.

You self-righteous wanker. The OP conceded hours ago that, if he had known his teeth were going to cost him a small fortune in the near future, he wouldn’t have sunk that money into the train set. I’m glad to know you’ve never suffered from your inability to see into the future. Dickweed.

> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> I rarely retract anything I say on the SMDB but please let me retract my wishes where I “hope the best for you”. You don’t appear to have the common sense to figure out things on your own so maybe it would be best if you continue to blame fate for your problems instead of intelligently working your way out of them.
> 
> I think you had it right in your first post. Your pit threads make you sound like a complete looney.

No, his thread makes it sound like he’s blowing off some steam about an unfortunate set of circumstances. Your posts, on the other hand, might lead one to ask whether you were born an idiot, or whether you developed into one over time.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2005, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everythings-broken-everything-sucks/306721/69 "2005-06-04T00:34:34Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> You are an ass. You really think he needs to give you every little detail right away? It was quite clear to me that when he said “I’ll never see that” he meant, simply, that he wouldn’t. And he isn’t going to, see, because…  
> _He’s going to pay in increments_. He will \*never \* have all that money at once. And he won’t see it, since it’s all going to the dentist.

I didn’t see that and I said so. It looks like most others did (with the possible exception of **Unclebeer** ) so I may deserve some of your criticism.

> [@Anaamika](#):
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> I am in a decent financial situation and like to have a few hobbies; yet if I had a serious medical dilemna in the US I’d probably be broke or deeply in debt. Yet I am not going to give up all my hobbies for the possibility of something happening tomorrow.

I’m not rich but I carefully and logically handle my finances to insure that I don’t jeopardize the welfare of my family. I have a hobby which could be quite expensive (audiophile - videophile). I would like to spend thousands of dollars on expensive theatre equipment and I have the means to do it if I ignore the need for emergency cash (a fund for health, large appliance breakdowns, auto repair etc). I don’t indulge the hobby. I keep the money saved for the rainy day issues.

I honestly didn’t intend to flaunt that but when somebody who appears to fail at managing health finances while spending a $1000 on a hobby condescendingly tells me that I need a two by four upside my head to understand what they are saying … Well I lost my patience and took a swipe.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2005, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everythings-broken-everything-sucks/306721/70 "2005-06-04T00:37:59Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> 2b. Because I gave it to the people to whom I’m in debt.
> 
> Fuck, dude, it is not a hard concept to grasp.

And yet, I didn’t grasp it.

Like I said, looks like deserve the heat I’m getting.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2005, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everythings-broken-everything-sucks/306721/71 "2005-06-04T00:48:34Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> You self-righteous wanker. The OP conceded hours ago that, if he had known his teeth were going to cost him a small fortune in the near future, he wouldn’t have sunk that money into the train set. I’m glad to know you’ve never suffered from your inability to see into the future. Dickweed.

I can’t see into the future. That’s why I -

- don’t spend $1000 on a hobby unless I also have sufficient funds set aside for an emergency. If I didn’t, I might have car trouble, no way to pay for it, and no recourse except to post in the SDMB how shitty my life is.

…and who the fuck uses the word “wanker” on this side of the pond?

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2005, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everythings-broken-everything-sucks/306721/72 "2005-06-04T01:33:33Z")

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What the fuck has gone wrong with this board? Why do people expect the OPs to explicitly state every angle in great detail, including defensive explanations of alternative theories that may be inferred by the extremely anal retentive?

What the hell happened to people being human and just saying things in a broad manner to be entertaining as well as generally informative? Like the OP did. Why, instead, are some of you demanding he cover all the possible bases and then some? What the fuck is wrong here?

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2005, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everythings-broken-everything-sucks/306721/73 "2005-06-04T01:44:03Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> What the fuck has gone wrong with this board? Why do people expect the OPs to explicitly state every angle in great detail, including defensive explanations of alternative theories that may be inferred by the extremely anal retentive?

Couldn’t have said it better. **TDN** is having a shitty time right now, let him lament.

Sheesh

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2005, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everythings-broken-everything-sucks/306721/74 "2005-06-04T01:47:17Z")

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> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> …and who the fuck uses the word “wanker” on this side of the pond?

Well, as someone who grew up in Australia, and who has spent time living in England, i can tell you it’s a term i find quite satisfactory for some uses.

But if you’d prefer that i use “jerk” or “douchebag” when referring to you, i’d be happy to oblige.

🙂

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2005, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everythings-broken-everything-sucks/306721/75 "2005-06-04T01:50:44Z")

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> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> And yet, I didn’t grasp it.
> 
> Like I said, looks like deserve the heat I’m getting.

Look, if you’re going to go around admitting when you’re wrong, you’re going to _really_ piss me off, you reasonable bastard.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2005, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everythings-broken-everything-sucks/306721/76 "2005-06-04T02:13:20Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Look, if you’re going to go around admitting when you’re wrong, you’re going to _really_ piss me off, you reasonable bastard.

I get that a lot. I don’t like to argue just for the sake of argument. If I’m proven wrong I’ll admit it.

Us Wankers are like that 😛

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**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2005, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everythings-broken-everything-sucks/306721/77 "2005-06-04T02:49:42Z")

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Does anybody else wanna help this guy fix his fucking trains?

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**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2005, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everythings-broken-everything-sucks/306721/78 "2005-06-04T03:19:41Z")

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> [@danceswithcats](#):
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> Does anybody else wanna help this guy fix his fucking trains?

Yeah. Because if **tdn** ’s train set has one of those tipping coal cars, and he filled it up with his extracted teeth so it could go off on a siding and dump the teeth into a little 1940’s style dumptruck, it would be _totally fucking cool._

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**Author:** ![Salem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8c91f0/32.png) [@Salem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Salem)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2005, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everythings-broken-everything-sucks/306721/79 "2005-06-04T04:11:12Z")

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You know **Uncle Beer** , maybe if you took a few steps down from way up there at the top of the asshole ladder, the air would be less thin and you’d be able to think more clearly. The guy’s going through a rough period and felt like bitching about it. It doesn’t mean he’s not going to take care of it and deal with it and come out on the other side just fine. What the fuck do you care? Christ, you’ve never had a fucking problem in your life that you just needed to talk about and moan about before you got to fixing it? He doesn’t owe you a fucking breakdown of his daily calendar and financial reports to support his right to vent. The next time someone posts a complaint about having a stomach flu, should they send you output samples for verification?

Thank you **guanolad** for your post. I could not agree with you more.  
Sorry, **dances** , that didn’t help with the trains at all, did it? I’m no expert at all about model trains, but my dad made an incredible set-up in our house when I was growing up. I know that the tracks had to be spotless or there would be places that the connection would go out. Any little dust particles could do it. I think there’s a spray of some kind you can use to clean and keep the dust away.  
And if you’re talking about Harvard, are you in the Boston area, **tdn**? Tufts Dental School is supposed to be excellent, if you decide to pursue that route. Best of luck to you.

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**Author:** ![Green\_Cymbeline](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_cymbeline/32/9244_2.png) [@Green\_Cymbeline](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Cymbeline)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2005, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/everythings-broken-everything-sucks/306721/80 "2005-06-04T04:21:25Z")

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> [@Licentious Ectomorph](#):
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> Lesson learned, I now go faithfully every six months. After the protracted ordeal I had endured, an hour of discomfort twice a year isn’t so bad. I still need generous doses of Xanax beforehand, though. 🙂

Off topic, but **Licentious** … who is your dentist? I am in Northern Virginia too and in need of a good dentist. I am like you - I HATE dentists and haven’t been for a while. But I have sucked it up enough to promise myself that I would go in the next month. E-mail me if you want to share the name of your dentist - brookeln (at) [gmail.com](http://gmail.com)

THANKS!

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