# Evidence for Creationism - 3D **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 24, 2000, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-for-creationism-3d/18078 "2000-03-24T23:18:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Satan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Satan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satan)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2000, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-for-creationism-3d/18078/1 "2000-03-24T23:18:00Z")
Since the other thread has become ten pages long, and since I just invited members of the LBMB (with the help of CheapBastid) to the party, I wanted to start anew. We’ll see if ghoti or any of the other creationists there would like to preach to something other than their choir and we’ll see what reasonable people can reply to them in response… * * * Yer pal, Satan ---
**Author:** ![Lauralee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Lauralee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lauralee)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2000, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-for-creationism-3d/18078/2 "2000-03-24T23:51:00Z")
Ghoti just finished a disertation on the apocrypha… give him a little time! ---
**Author:** ![CheapBastid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8baadc/32.png) [@CheapBastid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CheapBastid)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2000, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-for-creationism-3d/18078/3 "2000-03-25T00:30:00Z")
Just for reference (as the old link that was posted in the Creationist thread is dead). [Here’s](http://www.leftbehind.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/000032.html) the thread where **Fish** decided to go off on his _Intelligent Design_ ramble. ---
**Author:** ![Bishop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Bishop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bishop)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2000, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-for-creationism-3d/18078/4 "2000-03-25T00:48:00Z")
Something tells me that you won’t see many of those happy little fellows here. Once they get out of their pond people tend not to listen to them to much. And they like to come off as eveyone is hanging on their every word. Over here things could get a tad more… Complex? * * * The Bishop ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2000, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-for-creationism-3d/18078/5 "2000-03-25T00:57:00Z")
Hey! Long time no see, Satan! Whatcha been up to? ---
**Author:** ![Navigator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4af34b/32.png) [@Navigator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Navigator)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2000, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-for-creationism-3d/18078/6 "2000-03-25T01:22:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Something tells me that you won’t see many of those happy little fellows here. Once they get out of their pond people tend not to listen to them to much. And they like to come off as eveyone is hanging on their every word. > > Over here things could get a tad more… Complex? Says the guy with one whole post over here… [/sarcasm] Peace. * * * † Jon † Phillipians 4:13 ---
**Author:** ![Bishop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Bishop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bishop)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2000, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-for-creationism-3d/18078/7 "2000-03-25T02:01:00Z")
Make that two! ---
**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2000, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-for-creationism-3d/18078/8 "2000-03-25T02:02:00Z")
Maybe we could just hang around here and talk about the Pounders? Oh…I forgot…it’s been done. 🙂 David ---
**Author:** ![royalbill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8491ac/32.png) [@royalbill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/royalbill)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2000, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-for-creationism-3d/18078/9 "2000-03-25T02:08:00Z")
Maybe I can get in on this one… I took one look at the size of the other and decided to not even start reading… War and Peace is shorter… ---
**Author:** ![royalbill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8491ac/32.png) [@royalbill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/royalbill)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2000, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-for-creationism-3d/18078/10 "2000-03-25T02:10:00Z")
Has anyone here read the work. \ Starlight and Time\ Very interesting theory (yes, theory) about the problem of the amount of time it takes startlight to reach Earth compared to the “young Earth” philosophy. * * * Heaven…One to beam up! ---
**Author:** ![royalbill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8491ac/32.png) [@royalbill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/royalbill)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2000, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-for-creationism-3d/18078/11 "2000-03-25T02:12:00Z")
Some day I WILL figure out the HTML thing on this site… * * * Heaven…One to beam up! ---
**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2000, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-for-creationism-3d/18078/12 "2000-03-25T02:14:00Z")
That’s the first I’ve heard of the book, RB…care to give a brief synopsis? -David ---
**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2000, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-for-creationism-3d/18078/13 "2000-03-25T02:15:00Z")
There **is** no HTML on this site anymore… Your \ \ would’ve worked if there were…and UBB doesn’t have an underline tag yet. -David ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2000, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-for-creationism-3d/18078/14 "2000-03-25T02:17:00Z")
This book doesn’t propose that old theory that the speed of light used to be a gazillion times faster, does it? That one’s been pretty thoroughly debunked. ---
**Author:** ![royalbill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8491ac/32.png) [@royalbill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/royalbill)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2000, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-for-creationism-3d/18078/15 "2000-03-25T02:36:00Z")
No, its no the old Decay of the Speed of light theroy. * * * Heaven…One to beam up! ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2000, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-for-creationism-3d/18078/16 "2000-03-25T02:48:00Z")
I just love proofs that begin with,“Reality used to be different…” :). I have heard all the different variations of the “speed of light theory”, most if not all of them proposed by people who have a Creationist axe to grind. * * * Eagles may soar free and proud, but weasels never get sucked into jet engines. ---
**Author:** ![ghoti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/94ad74/32.png) [@ghoti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ghoti)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2000, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-for-creationism-3d/18078/17 "2000-03-25T03:07:00Z")
Ummm…sorry people. I’m NOT the ghoti from the LBMB…an unfortunate coincidence…and apparently name choice on my part. ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2000, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-for-creationism-3d/18078/18 "2000-03-25T04:35:00Z")
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**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2000, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-for-creationism-3d/18078/19 "2000-03-25T19:47:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by royalbill: > \*\*Has anyone here read the work. > \ Starlight and Time\ > > Very interesting theory (yes, theory) about the problem of the amount of time it takes starlight to reach Earth compared to the “young Earth” philosophy. > \*\* Let me guess… If the universe was created only 6,000 years ago, how could it take thousands of years or millions of years or billions of years for starlight to get here? Also, there’s the assertion that people have been able to see the stars since Adam & Eve first looked up. If the Universe was only a few days old, the night sky should have been totally dark, the stars totally invisible, since there had not yet been enough time for starlight to reach A & E’s eyes. * * * Feel free to correct me at any time. But don’t be surprised if I try to correct you. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2000, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-for-creationism-3d/18078/20 "2000-03-25T21:13:00Z")
As most members of this board are well aware, I’m a creationist but not a Creationist. My short take on the situation is that reading Genesis 1 as anything other than a poetic narrative of God’s work makes Him a liar…either in His Book or in His World. (Consider all the half-baked explanations you’ve heard on how fossils came to be, light from stars \> 6000 LY, and so on.) My God is not a liar. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-for-creationism-3d/18078.md?page=2)