This is only true if you really, really quibble over the word “cure.” Many people today are living productive lives, under medication that treats their serious mental illnesses. Schizophrenia is often treatable; obsessive-compulsive disorder is treatable; severe depression is treatable.
You may quibble and say that a treatment is not a cure. Fine. Quibble away. But many people will point out that their symptoms have been alleviated. You might as well have said “No one has ever cured diabetes with a pill.” This is true…and misleading.
I would also say thta nobody has ‘cured’ mental ilness with a ‘mentor’ either - you might help the person learn to cope/deal - but its no more of a ‘cure’ than the medicinal variety - and probably less so.
To me I see he did go to a doctor, and apparently had treatments, that doesn’t prove anything, except in his unconscious mind he really wanted to believe.
What of course is what you believe,but I don’t. There are a lot of things that can’t be explained now, but there are many that can be explained that were not many years ago
.First you need to prove to me," who created the place for the creator?" If the creator exists he must be in existence, so existence must have preceeded him!
There are pills for a lot of mental illnesses. and there are cases where a person didn’t use them and reverted back, it may not be an actual cure, but it does supply the chemical a person is lacking to think rationally.
Aw man, this reminds me of the many chuckles I got while reading from White’s The Warfare of Science with Theology and the opposition that many faithful held to what they called heretical rods that Franklin had invented. Have you read from it? He deals with it quite extensively here. Churches held out for a long time, many refusing to place it on their churches, and still placing their faith in tinker bells, and other means to protect their churches. White relates the case that converted most of the Italian theologians to the scientific view was the church of San Nazaro, at Brescia. Says White:
So while some are a little slow to come around, most do eventually, although there will always be a few lekatts left in the world that will be getting blown to smithereens, or in lekatts mind, to heaven.
You say you KNEW you were in the presence of God, but it is a belief not a fact. I gives you peace and you are surely entitled to your beliefs. As you state it, God is just a light, the idea of God being love is a concept of one man…John.
No one can say anything about God in truth, since it can’t be proven, It can only be by Faith alone.
Light is not a being, and if the Bible is correct, when Moses is said to ask to see him, God said he would die! So that would mean God has dimentions! Your defination is God is energy.
We are all light Beings of energy, the more we love the brighter we become.
I did know that I was in the presence of God it was not a belief it was a knowing. I remember watching a TV interview of a near death experiencer. The lady asked about his experience and the man said “I knew I was in the presence of God” then the lady said “You mean you believed you were in the presence of God.” He replied “No ma’am, I knew I was in the presence of God”. The news-lady became flustered and called for a break, when the show came back the NDE person was gone. He was accurate and I am accurate.
I am not sure why this is so scary to people. God doesn’t harm anyone no matter what they were told when young.
I say this because it is the facts and the truth. I will answer only rational serious questions.
I didn’t choose to believe it true. I didn’t ask for it to happen, it was true, and research has proven it true and authentic. I know you can’t understand my personal experience, but millions who have had the experience do understand it.
Fear is evident when research and evidence is ignored. I worked in a hospital for years and volunteered in Hospice. It fear of the unknown that scares people. I know where I am going and what I am going to do when this body of mine dies.
You do not do research, and you have no idea what real evidence consists of, but I do not make the claim that you “fear” either. Rather, you evidently are deliberately ignorant despite multiple attempts throughout your life made by others to educate you. You are actually proud of this ignorance, and the only thing we could possibly be afraid of is that you might spread it to others.
Well It is my goal in life to help others with the knowledge I have gained from my experience. I have been doing that for 25 years now, wrote three books with one more being published soon. I have many pages of “thank you” notes from the people I have helped.
Fear becomes anger, anger becomes hate, and hate becomes suffering. Those who fear suffer.
Yawn… the OP: Another ultra-cocky atheist who defines the rules of engagement the way he wants. Sprinkle in some fact, non-fact, and conjecture. “200 years ago 1 in 3 didn’t live to 21…” I’ve read other atheists saying most everyone lived only to 45. Funny how in the Psalms it says the average human lifespan is 70 years - much closer to today, BTW. And, no, I am not going to be sucked into some strawman argument where God’s existance is “dependent upon the scientific method.” Nice try Charlie.
But I will say this: In terms of Christianity specifically, you cannot ignore Pascal’s wager. Any self-preserving atheist has to consider the implied consequences of unbelief.
What if you believe in the wrong god? If you die and find out you failed to properly worship Zeus, or Vishnu, won’t the outcome be the same as an atheist who doesn’t believe in the Christian god?