# Evidence for Jesus' rising from the dead

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [February 23, 2005, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-for-jesus-rising-from-the-dead/291598 "2005-02-23T22:35:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2005, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-for-jesus-rising-from-the-dead/291598/61 "2005-02-24T18:01:25Z")

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> [@Captain Amazing](#):
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> What about non-Jews and non-Jewish communities in Palestine? Crucifixion for non-sedition crimes happened there? Or crucifixions of slaves by their masters? I don’t know a whole lot about Roman jurisprudence.

Crucifixion was seen as very degrading. It was primarily used against slaves and lower classes. It was also extremely brutal and excruciating. Some commentators said it was worse than being burned alive.

Since Roman citizens were exempt from crucifixion and upper classes were permitted other, less horrible forms of execution for crimes which were not against Rome, all that was left was pretty much peasant Jewish classes who committed crimes against Rome.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2005, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-for-jesus-rising-from-the-dead/291598/62 "2005-02-24T18:04:38Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> Oh, man! :eek:
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> Item the first: the source also explicitly says, and explains why, the Jesus encounter was an exception to the sedition rule — and even declares it to be historical fact.
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> Item the second: you cannot possibly be serious about comparing the zeitgeist of ancient Rome with the zeitgeist of today’s America. I mean, nevermind the witch trials. You can’t draw conclusions about American jurisprudence in 2005 from American jurisprudence five years ago. Things moved ever more slowly in Palestine back then, and rulers were even more capricious than they are today.
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> Anyway, I leave it at that. The source is there for anyone who cares to read it. And it is impeccable. I’m out.

Just to make this clear- Jannaeus was a Hasmonean Jewish king, not a Roman. You are comparing a pre-Roman regime to a Roman one. That’s why I used the Salem witch analogy.

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