# Evidence is irrelevant to mister nyxx

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-is-irrelevant-to-mister-nyxx/624001>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 4, 2012, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-is-irrelevant-to-mister-nyxx/624001 "2012-06-04T04:30:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-is-irrelevant-to-mister-nyxx/624001/141 "2012-07-06T23:06:29Z")

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I appreciate the sentiments Súil Dubh. I do. The intensity of this pitting has ramped up some and now we’re seeing a pile-on. But please consider:

1. Mister Nyx’s core competence is insulting people and the board. So there’s some payback going on here.

But moreover nyx is either,

a) a troll or

b) somebody with delusions regarding the quality of his argument.  
If the answer is a), then no harm, no foul in my view: he’s getting a smackdown. But to the extent that the answer is b), this is a growth opportunity. I kid when I say that – but I’m kidding on the square. Nyx’s argument style is a bit slippery, so he might not have a clear sense that he’s acting like a jackass. It would be better for him to know that – really. It would. For such a condition is _in theory_ correctable. He could level up.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-is-irrelevant-to-mister-nyxx/624001/142 "2012-07-06T23:12:08Z")

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> [@Suil\_Dubh](#):
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> What is this, high school?
> 
> Yes, mister nyx is a nitwit. And, yes, there are a couple of people in this thread who have a legitimate beef with him.
> 
> But the rest of you bandwagon jumpers are acting like a bunch of goofball adolescents.
> 
> “WE DON’T LIKE HIM, AND HE DOESN’T HAVE ANY FRIENDS. LET’S BE MEAN TO HIM BECAUSE THERE ARE NO REPERCUSSIONS!”

He insults the entire board, several times, and you call it a “couple of people?” This is the pit. Shit like that happens here. Take your e-rage and stick it up your tightly puckered ass dipstick.

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**Author:** ![Suil\_Dubh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85f322/32.png) [@Suil\_Dubh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suil_Dubh)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-is-irrelevant-to-mister-nyxx/624001/143 "2012-07-06T23:34:03Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> But to the extent that the answer is b), this is a growth opportunity. I kid when I say that – but I’m kidding on the square. Nyx’s argument style is a bit slippery, so he might not have a clear sense that he’s acting like a jackass. It would be better for him to know that – really. It would. For such a condition is _in theory_ correctable. He could level up.

Oh, I completely agree. The guy is being a twit and deserves to get called out for it.

And you make a good point when you say “acting like a jackass”. I’ve read posts he’s made where he comes across as a smart enough guy. I thought about going back and re-editing my previous claim that he “was a nitwit” to “acting like a nitwit” but then beer happened.

But the whole “Let’s make fun of the unpopular kid! Get him!” vibe to this thread is head-hangingly pathetic.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-is-irrelevant-to-mister-nyxx/624001/144 "2012-07-06T23:46:49Z")

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Most of it would stop cold if the kid would stop trying to defend himself in ways that prove he’s an even bigger idiot.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-is-irrelevant-to-mister-nyxx/624001/145 "2012-07-06T23:57:49Z")

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I’ve tried that my whole life. It rarely works 🙂

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**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-is-irrelevant-to-mister-nyxx/624001/146 "2012-07-07T02:01:54Z")

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> [@Lamia](#):
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> Oh **Una** , didn’t you hear? **mister nyx** is the only True [del]Scotsman[/del] Queer on the SDMB. No one here has suffered as he’s suffered, or fought as he’s fought for the cause of LGBT rights. Each and every poster on this board except for **mister nyx** is a homophobe, even (especially!) the LGBT ones, but he is going to save us from ourselves…no matter how many tantrums it takes.

> [@mister\_nyx](#):
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> It’s funny, because I actually haven’t seen anyone else here even claim to have done any sort of serious LGBT advocacy work. None of you LGBT people even bothered to argue with the guy who falsely claimed that I hadn’t done such work (I’ve posted enough about it that there’s no real doubting my professional credentials in it). Hell, he even claimed I was lying about being gay, and how many of you stepped up?
> 
> I’ve never said anything like what you claim I said about the posters here, but it’s sort of telling that all these LGBT Dopers didn’t give enough of a shit to actually stand up to that appalling idiocy. So, hell, if I had actually said none of you had ever fought for queer rights – and, let’s be clear, I didn’t, so if you stand by your post, find where I said that or else admit it’s a lie – well, all y’all LGBT Dopers let the ball drop when you didn’t bother with that bullshit. We can all draw whatever conclusions we like from your collective failure.

It’s strange, I’ve never thought of myself as psychic, but it’s downright uncanny how I managed to predict what **mister nyx** would say next.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-is-irrelevant-to-mister-nyxx/624001/147 "2012-07-07T02:12:22Z")

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Because really, why would other people who don’t know him step up and defend him against specific claims?

Hell, I may be best friends with someone in real life, but if someone makes specific claims about him in an area I know nothing about, I’m going to let him provide his own answers.

I’m certainly not going to leap to the defense of someone I know nothing about and defend them against claims I have no personal knowledge of. Well, excepting of course unless the claims are over the top or ridiculous. I will for the record state that I do not believe that Nyx is a transmogrified Panda-Cyborg serial killer who eats babies for breakfast and regularly sleeps with a potato, even if parts of that statement are at least remotely possible.

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**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-is-irrelevant-to-mister-nyxx/624001/148 "2012-07-07T03:12:33Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> I wonder who you used to be on the boards?

I’ll give you a little [hint](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15088056&postcount=36).

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**Author:** ![MichaelEmouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michaelemouse/32/101_2.png) [@MichaelEmouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelEmouse)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-is-irrelevant-to-mister-nyxx/624001/149 "2012-07-07T03:19:22Z")

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> [@splatterpunk](#):
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> I’ll give you a little [hint](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15088056&postcount=36).

Who does that refer to?

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-is-irrelevant-to-mister-nyxx/624001/150 "2012-07-07T03:24:28Z")

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> [@mister\_nyx](#):
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> So, in the real world, there’s still no evidence that violent assholes are somehow more likely to target gay men than gay women by any ratio that can’t be totally explained by how men are more likely to be targeted with violence than women.

Maybe repetition will help.

> [@](#):
>
> “…males (15.7 per 1,000) and females (14.2 per 1,000) had similar rates of violent victimization during 2010,” according to Crime Victimization, 2010, a report by the Bureau of Justice Statistics utilizing the National Crime Victimization Survey.

> [@](#):
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> “…males (15.7 per 1,000) and females (14.2 per 1,000) had similar rates of violent victimization during 2010,” according to Crime Victimization, 2010, a report by the Bureau of Justice Statistics utilizing the National Crime Victimization Survey.

> [@](#):
>
> “…males (15.7 per 1,000) and females (14.2 per 1,000) had similar rates of violent victimization during 2010,” according to Crime Victimization, 2010, a report by the Bureau of Justice Statistics utilizing the National Crime Victimization Survey.

> [@](#):
>
> “…males (15.7 per 1,000) and females (14.2 per 1,000) had similar rates of violent victimization during 2010,” according to Crime Victimization, 2010, a report by the Bureau of Justice Statistics utilizing the National Crime Victimization Survey.

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-is-irrelevant-to-mister-nyxx/624001/151 "2012-07-07T03:48:58Z")

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> [@Suil\_Dubh](#):
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> What is this, high school?
> 
> Yes, mister nyx is a nitwit. And, yes, there are a couple of people in this thread who have a legitimate beef with him.
> 
> But the rest of you bandwagon jumpers are acting like a bunch of goofball adolescents.
> 
> “WE DON’T LIKE HIM, AND HE DOESN’T HAVE ANY FRIENDS. LET’S BE MEAN TO HIM BECAUSE THERE ARE NO REPERCUSSIONS!”

And your problem with that is _what, exactly_?

I’m not understanding your issue with this. Please explain.

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-is-irrelevant-to-mister-nyxx/624001/152 "2012-07-07T04:01:38Z")

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> [@splatterpunk](#):
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> I’ll give you a little [hint](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15088056&postcount=36).

At least _this time_ it won’t cost someone $20 to find out… or maybe it will…

_snerk_

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-is-irrelevant-to-mister-nyxx/624001/153 "2012-07-07T04:09:48Z")

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> [@MichaelEmouse](#):
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> Who does that refer to?

It’s a reference to **Otto**. I don’t know enough about it other than he “stole” $20 as a joke, or something, and no one believed it was just a joke, or a sole occurrence, etc. Whatever the truth was, it was one of those watershed posts which sinks an entire posting career.

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-is-irrelevant-to-mister-nyxx/624001/154 "2012-07-07T04:15:44Z")

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> [@Mosier](#):
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> Maybe repetition will help.

You’re wasting your time. He’s already demonstrated that he’s impervious to statistical mathematics. As someone upthread said, he’s only _barely_ able to drool and mouthbreath outside a classroom that’s teaching statistics. He’s totally incapable of actually _understanding_ it. We are witnessing _ **Ignorance** _ (of the willful variety) in the wild, here. There _is_ no point in engaging this moron. Nothing short of a clue-by-four across his head (and I have serious doubt even _that_ will work) is going to wise him up. Just point and laugh. It’s all he’s good for.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-is-irrelevant-to-mister-nyxx/624001/155 "2012-07-07T12:34:01Z")

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> [@Suil\_Dubh](#):
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> What is this, high school?
> 
> Yes, mister nyx is a nitwit. And, yes, there are a couple of people in this thread who have a legitimate beef with him.
> 
> But the rest of you bandwagon jumpers are acting like a bunch of goofball adolescents.
> 
> “WE DON’T LIKE HIM, AND HE DOESN’T HAVE ANY FRIENDS. LET’S BE MEAN TO HIM BECAUSE THERE ARE NO REPERCUSSIONS!”

“Ah, but a man’s snark must exceed his grasp,  
Or what’s a Pitting for?”

With apologies to RB Browning.

Regards,  
Shodan

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