# Evil Captor, shut up about the bondage.  We know you're creepy.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 16, 2015, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781 "2015-02-16T02:16:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/21 "2015-02-16T05:51:16Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Hey, it was \*bound \*to happen.

Yeah. And who would want to impose a _gag_ order on Evil Captor anyway?

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/22 "2015-02-16T05:57:42Z")

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> [@splatterpunk](#):
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> So? What does that have to do with some creeper posting his fap material on the SDMB? You do realize that there’s a vast gulf between the fantasies of women in general and those of some middle aged man posting on the internet? That’s what the OP of this thread was addressing.
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> Neither is “interesting.” You claimed that **dropzone** ’s desire not to be subjected to **Evil Faptor** ’s wank material says more about him than the other. What the fuck does that even mean?

The stuff about his wank material is shit you brought up. The OP just says that he’s talking about BDSM in a thread about a movie that is at least supposedly about BDSM. And he’s so squicked out by it he had to make a fucking Pit thread. He even admitted that he’s not done anything out of line, and that he’s just creeped out by it.

Your reaction is even more over the top, and is not saying good things about you either. Okay, so you don’t like reading someone else’s wank material. Why in the world does that make you angry?

I view fetishes at the same level I view any other sexual preference. It’s no better to be against people who are openly into BDSM than it is to be against someone who is openly gay. And, no, I’m not into BDSM, though I could see myself participating in some of the lighter stuff if my partner was into it, as long as she embraced my fetishes as well.

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**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/23 "2015-02-16T06:28:34Z")

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> “50 Shades” is the highest selling book of all time

I thought the highest selling book of all time was A Tale Of Two Cities. Do you have a cite that says 50 Shades is?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/24 "2015-02-16T06:37:24Z")

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> [@FloatyGimpy](#):
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> I thought the highest selling book of all time was A Tale Of Two Cities.

Either that or _Lord of the Rings_, IIRC.

ETA: Yep, it’s ATOTC. And _Fifty Shades_ isn’t even in the [Top 100](http://www.goodreads.com/list/show/33934.Best_Selling_Books_of_All_Time), let alone the highest of all time.

(Note: before anyone mentions it, according to most cites I looked at, while a lot of people would guess the Bible, it’s hard to pin down because they’re often given away, not to mention the many different versions)

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/25 "2015-02-16T06:42:14Z")

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Actually that would seem to be wrong, **FloatyGimpy** : this [cite](http://www.theguardian.com/books/2012/aug/07/erotic-book-fifty-shades-british-bestseller)says highest selling in _Britain_, but actually looking at various sites it seems to all be pretty debatable. Anyway, it’s sold a metric shit-ton, which was my point.

Otherwise, what **BigT** said. When you start going off your frickin’ brain about nothing and making shit up about what some poster has allegedly done in order to justify to yourself your deep discomfort about nothing, you need to take a look at yourself and consider if the problem isn’t your own hangups rather than someone else’s supposed behaviour.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/26 "2015-02-16T06:44:37Z")

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Here’s [another list](http://www.ranker.com/list/best-selling-books-of-all-time/jeff419?page=2) – no _Fifty Shades_ here either.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/27 "2015-02-16T07:14:54Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> **EvCap** , your continuing efforts to promote BDSM on this board and make it look [del]normal[/del] less creepy have squicked me out for years, and [50 Shades of Gray](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=749345), despite its success, doesn’t help your argument. Find something less shitty to support it
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> Just sayin’. :rolleyes:

Where the fuck in his OP does he even mention BDSM, let alone in a creepy way? He’s talking about a movie that is popular and a valid conversation point in CS. Yes, it is “relevant to his interests”, but there’s nothing prurient about his OP or his responses. He only addresses BDSM in his last post (way, way after this pitting) \*because some trolling fuckhead ( **BigTard** ) asked him \*(which I’m _sure_ was done _entirely_ on his own pluck :dubious:, right? ).

Basically, this pitting is stupid and you are stupid for making it.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/28 "2015-02-16T07:23:44Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> He’s dialed it back recently, but there was a time it was all he would talk about. That’s what was creepy. I don’t want him backsliding.
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> ETA: But yeah, I find whips and chains and shit creepy. I’m old fashioned like that.

So, maybe you should stay out of a thread about a movie which involves the stuff you don’t like. A movie which is not exactly obscure. I was expecting something exotic in the thread. But its just a movie thread.

I bet some people get creeped out by whatever it is you like. I’m not into BDSM myself, but I guess many of us are more tolerant than you.

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**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/29 "2015-02-16T07:44:06Z")

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> [@drewtwo99](#):
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> Yeah. And who would want to impose a _gag_ order on Evil Captor anyway?

He’s been pretty restrained already.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Why\_Bother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e19adc/32.png) [@Doctor\_Why\_Bother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Why_Bother)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/30 "2015-02-16T08:23:05Z")

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> [@Penfeather](#):
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> He’s been pretty restrained already.

Tongue-tied, you might say.

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/31 "2015-02-16T09:03:43Z")

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> [@Doctor\_Why\_Bother](#):
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> Tongue-tied, you might say.

Almost as if he’s been \*whipped \*into shape by the mods.

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**Author:** ![Zorkmid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e68b1a/32.png) [@Zorkmid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zorkmid)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/32 "2015-02-16T14:30:09Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> You know what a _ **real** _ sadist says when a masochist pleads with them “Beat me! Use me!” don’t you?

“No.”

😃

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/33 "2015-02-16T14:38:22Z")

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> [@drewtwo99](#):
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> Almost as if he’s been \*whipped \*into shape by the mods.

Hey, if he wants to be a gimp, suits me.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/34 "2015-02-16T15:10:08Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I view fetishes at the same level I view any other sexual preference. It’s no better to be against people who are openly into BDSM than it is to be against someone who is openly gay. And, no, I’m not into BDSM, though I could see myself participating in some of the lighter stuff if my partner was into it, as long as she embraced my fetishes as well.

One of your fetishes, I gather, is creating imagery that nobody wants anywhere near their head, let alone in it.

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**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/35 "2015-02-16T15:13:48Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> The biggest protests I’ve see over 50 Shades is by people in the BDSM community. They say it promotes a false idea of what their fetish is about, saying that the main guy is actually being abusive and possibly committing rape. (At least, that’s what they said about the book. The movie may try to fix those things.) It seems Mr. Grey is a bigger creep than Edward ever was.

Edward was wicked creepy. They’d have to go some to make Christian Grey seem creepier.

The women I know who are into actual BDSM (submissives, if it matters), with actual partners, aren’t at all impressed with 50 Shades of Hype. However, it may be in part because the books are not well-written and are pretty…tame.

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**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/36 "2015-02-16T15:16:15Z")

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> [@drewtwo99](#):
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> I don’t know about all this BDSM the kids are into these days. What happened to good old fashioned leather suits, riding crops, ball gags and chains? Why does it have to all be about double fisting and cleveland steamers with the kiddos? Back in my day, you went down to your sex dungeon, harnessed your lover up in a sex sling, and that was it. But now you’ve got anal hook stretchers and penis slicers and piss bongs and beer felching and rectal speculum cum dumpster parties and megafursuit orgies and I just don’t approve of it, not one bit at all!

We old people just made that stuff up to confuse the youngsters.

Imagine our surprise when the silly 20somethings \*started \*doing it!

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**Author:** ![Tuxie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ee59a6/32.png) [@Tuxie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuxie)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/37 "2015-02-16T17:00:21Z")

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> [@Evil\_Captor](#):
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> I invite anyone who feels I am making any kind of effort to promote BDSM on this board to pull up a listing of my posts using the search feature and see just how many BDSM-related posts by me you can find. (Hint: you are going to spend an awful lot of time reading posts that have nothing to do with BDSM.)
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> Dropzone, I do not share your opinion of BDSM, or Fifty Shades of Gray, or much of anything I suspect, and I note that your immediate response to opinions you do not share is to try to get them censored.
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> That’s about all I have to say to you.

Don’t challenge them, Evil Captor. They simply have too much time on their hands. They will find something.

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**Author:** ![Sr\_Siete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Sr\_Siete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sr_Siete)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/38 "2015-02-16T17:17:03Z")

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I’m just jealous nobody’s making a movie about my amputee- clowns- having- sex- with- trees fetish.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/39 "2015-02-16T17:31:02Z")

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Good job. You’ve Rule 34’d the thread. Frankly, that’s more of a crime than Godwinning. Bastard.

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**Author:** ![yawuntz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a5b964/32.png) [@yawuntz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yawuntz)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/40 "2015-02-16T17:40:38Z")

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> [@Sr\_Siete](#):
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> I’m just jealous nobody’s making a movie about my amputee- clowns- having- sex- with- trees fetish.

Geez…I thought I was the only one! Anyway, great thread, having a ball reading all the gags.

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