# Evil Captor, shut up about the bondage. We know you're creepy. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 16, 2015, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781 "2015-02-16T02:16:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2015, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/61 "2015-02-17T03:21:33Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > **EvCap** , your continuing efforts to promote BDSM on this board and make it look [del]normal[/del] less creepy have squicked me out for years, and [50 Shades of Gray](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=749345), despite its success, doesn’t help your argument. Find something less shitty to support it > > Just sayin’. :rolleyes: Yeah, supporting BDSM on the SDMB! What’s wrong with you? Somebody’s going to get confused. ---
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2015, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/62 "2015-02-17T03:35:26Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Okay, you got me. Not grossed out by BDSM, just by the people who are very much into it. 😃 Human beings gross me out, too. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2015, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/63 "2015-02-17T04:35:58Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > I still haven’t seen any admission from you that you were wrong to create this thread. Nor will you. I will continue to weasel around it, thank you. 😛 **EC** , I apologize for calling you creepy. We often agree on other things, and I appreciate how you have made an effort to no longer beat us over the head with your sick, disgusting, and inhuman predilections. (That’s a joke, son.) ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2015, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/64 "2015-02-17T05:33:56Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Yes, yes, so do Hugh Hefner’s or Mick Jagger’s. They don’t want to get tied down with a relationship. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2015, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/65 "2015-02-17T05:37:25Z")
> [@Penfeather](#): > > Why do you hate Eric Clapton? Apropos of nothing, EC had a song about ED. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2015, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/66 "2015-02-17T06:10:48Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Seeing movies about horrible things in order to be creeped out by them has kept Hollywood going for 100 years. Few of them pit the movies afterward for being horrible though. So is there a flavour of BDSM porn where the person who starts out as the dom ends up being the sub? If there is, you should try to find some, **dropzone**. You might like it. Or at least find it familiar. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2015, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/67 "2015-02-17T13:10:43Z")
> [@Gedd](#): > > Wow. I didn’t think the Dope would be a place where someone would be pitted due to their sexual choices. ☹ > > Pit fail. Due to them? No. Due to posting about them incessantly in spite of having been asked to knock it the fuck off? Yes. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2015, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/68 "2015-02-17T13:33:54Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > So is there a flavour of BDSM porn where the person who starts out as the dom ends up being the sub? If there is, you should try to find some, **dropzone**. You might like it. Or at least find it familiar. No thanks. I get enough here. However, it shows that I’m educable, unlike some people (f’rinstance, fxmastermind) here. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2015, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/69 "2015-02-17T14:04:05Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > **EvCap** , your continuing efforts to promote BDSM on this board and make it look [del]normal[/del] less creepy have squicked me out for years, and [50 Shades of Gray](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=749345), despite its success, doesn’t help your argument. Find something less shitty to support it > > Just sayin’. :rolleyes: **dropzone** , don’t you think you’re being rather…_strict?_ And…would you do it again? :D:p ---
**Author:** ![Gedd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gedd/32/4938_2.png) [@Gedd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gedd)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2015, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/70 "2015-02-17T14:16:27Z")
> [@Shakes](#): > > It’s okay to be grossed out by a particular sex act. You can no more help that than being TURNED ON by a particular sex act. Exactly. And like I tell my three-year old when her friends won’t play what she wants, “You can play somewhere else, but don’t spoil everyone else’s fun.” ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2015, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/71 "2015-02-17T15:48:13Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > So is there a flavour of BDSM porn where the person who starts out as the dom ends up being the sub? It’s can be pretty fluid, really. There is a huge strain of “topping from the bottom” in BDSM play. F’rinstance, a…let’s say _friend_ of mine…is a natural top, who enjoys subbing on occasion. But when…_he_’s…subbing, it’s still a dominant role, still calling the shots. In my experience “bottoming from the top” is less common, but happens. My…_friend_…has encountered some natural subs who enjoy the occasional topping as a role play exercise, and the occasional natural sub who thought he or she was a top but discovered differently over time. Sometimes it’s a matter of overcompensation, a sociocultural fear of being submissive, that drives people to try to pass as a dom. It can be uncomfortable for them and, from my…_friend_’s experience, they can be very sloppy doms. How that might extrapolate to **drop** is left as an exercise for the reader. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2015, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/72 "2015-02-17T16:19:22Z")
This thread is dumb and the puns were just torture! ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2015, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/73 "2015-02-17T23:56:35Z")
> [@74westy](#): > > This thread is dumb and the puns were just torture! Nobody _shoved them down your throat_, did they? I _submit_ that you chose to _come_ to this thread on your own. Why do you have to come into this thread and _shit everywhere_, _fisting_ the air in rage, just because you don’t like the topic? ---
**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2015, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/74 "2015-02-18T00:01:32Z")
> [@74westy](#): > > This thread is dumb and the puns were just torture! The punsters have been very, very naughty. Flog them!!! ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2015, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/75 "2015-02-18T00:48:20Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Seeing movies about horrible things in order to be creeped out by them has kept Hollywood going for 100 years. > > FTR, I’m not actually grossed out by BDSM or the people who are into it. However, I feel free to giggle behind their backs. I just have traumatic memories of EC going on and on about it, fitting it into every thread. I clicked on that thread because I’m interested, from a cultural anthropology\* point of view, in the people who like that particular awful (from a standpoint of literature) book, and those who would publicly line up to see the movie, flaunting 😉 their kinkiness while receiving affirmation from hundreds of like-minded women and their embarrassed mates who just want to get laid. However, seeing his name I suffered a flashback and snapped, creating this thread. > > - > - My Cultural Anthro prof wrote a book called [Group Sex: An Eyewitness Report on the American Way of Swinging.](http://www.amazon.com/Group-Sex-Eyewitness-American-Swinging/dp/B0012GDN4G/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1424135746&sr=1-3) Intensely boring and full of people you’d rather not see naked. I took enough classes to almost have a minor in Human Sexuality, then decided I preferred my people long dead and shifted into Archaeology. You see?! Even **necrophiliacs** laugh at BDSMers! ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2015, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/76 "2015-02-18T01:07:49Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > So is there a flavour of BDSM porn where the person who starts out as the dom ends up being the sub? Some people are switches; that is to say, they will take either role depending on mood and partner. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2015, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/77 "2015-02-18T03:08:12Z")
Pssst! **Morgyn**! He wasn’t talking about sex. He was joking about how I always get pwned when I start a thread complaining about something, like I start out thinking I’m the dom but end up as the sub. The reality is that my anger is short-lived and I’m always open to reasonable discussions of how I am wrong because I’m not firmly married to many of my opinions. And if **Princhester** and others get a laugh at my expense it’s okay because none of you are real. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2015, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/78 "2015-02-18T03:17:20Z")
The “S” in BDSM stands for solipsism! ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2015, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/79 "2015-02-18T03:29:29Z")
Shit, I’m not even sure that I exist and am not a figment of someone else’s imagination, someone with powers not quite godlike enough to make his creation interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2015, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781/80 "2015-02-18T03:35:41Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Pssst! **Morgyn**! He wasn’t talking about sex. He was joking about how I always get pwned when I start a thread complaining about something, like I start out thinking I’m the dom but end up as the sub. The reality is that my anger is short-lived and I’m always open to reasonable discussions of how I am wrong because I’m not firmly married to many of my opinions. And if **Princhester** and others get a laugh at my expense it’s okay because none of you are real. :smack: And I am \*too \*real! Pinch me! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captor-shut-up-about-the-bondage-we-know-youre-creepy/712781.md?page=5)