# Evil Captor's suspension

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 13, 2006, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172 "2006-03-13T15:49:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 15

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/281 "2006-03-14T20:20:59Z")

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> [@lissener](#):
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> Sigh. I have acknowledged the other views. I have only said that I don’t agree with them. I’m not trying to convince anyone, I’m just saying they haven’t convinced me. End of story.

Sorry I must remember to preview first, you proved me wrong by the time I hit Post. :mad: 😃

Jim

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**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/282 "2006-03-14T20:22:45Z")

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> [@Hamadryad](#):
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> Just a bit of friendly advice, but if I were you, I wouldn’t waste my time making off-topic posts proving you’re a snivelling cock.

> [@](#):
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> Originally Sniveled by **FinnAgain**  
> _… everything I said was true and it stopped a pissing match that didn’t need to continue._

Ha! The beauty part is how I would’ve missed this if you hadn’t pointed it out. Game, set & snatch, Hama.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/283 "2006-03-14T20:23:01Z")

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> [@What Exit?](#):
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> It works sometimes. It really does.

Yeah, I know. Most of the time it doesn’t. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/284 "2006-03-14T20:25:33Z")

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> [@El Cid Viscoso](#):
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> Ha! The beauty part is how I would’ve missed this if you hadn’t pointed it out. Game, set & snatch, Hama.

It didn’t “stop” a pissing match. The discussion was _already over_ when he stepped up to throw another bit of shit at me. You might as well buy a magic rock to keep the tigers from eating you.

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**Author:** ![Xploder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/a183cd/32.png) [@Xploder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xploder)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/285 "2006-03-14T20:27:14Z")

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> [@Excalibre](#):
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> You might as well buy a magic rock to keep the tigers from eating you.

Hey! That works ya know!

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/286 "2006-03-14T20:29:22Z")

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> [@Excalibre](#):
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> You tarred a whole lot of us with your broad brush.

Quite right. Even though I’m certainly no prude, I perfer people keep their fantasies to themselves. This ain’t the place for that.

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/287 "2006-03-14T20:31:23Z")

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> [@What Exit?](#):
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> Sorry I must remember to preview first, you proved me wrong by the time I hit Post. :mad: 😃
> 
> Jim

This cracks me up. People are WAY more invested in proving me “wrong” than I am in proving myself “right.”

I read, I parsed, I read others’ opinions, I re-read, I re-parsed, and I formed my own opinions. My opinion may be based on a more cynical view than yours. Whatever. You don’t agree with me, fine. But who’s all undie-bunched about it? “Admitting I’m wrong” when my opinion remains unchanged would just be dishonest. _Pas. Moi._

Fine, only Maureen knows for sure, and each of us has to decide whether we believe her “testimony” or not. I may be more jaded, or more cynical, than you. I may even be wrong. But until we get Maureen on a lie detector test, I’m gonna form my own opinion. And gang bullying ain’t gonna have a whole lot of affect on that opinion. Fact is, if she hadn’t been so cryptic in the first place, there’d be less margin for error here. As it stands, we’re all within the margin she provided.

I say we keep this going until the EC-related posts seem like the tangent.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/288 "2006-03-14T20:34:33Z")

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> [@El Cid Viscoso](#):
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> Ha! The beauty part is how I would’ve missed this if you hadn’t pointed it out. Game, set & snatch, Hama.

So which part is incorrect?

In exy not unhinged and looking for a fight? Well, either that or he just pretends that he’s unhinged so that he can start fights, but I think that’d be bannable so I just assume that he’s off his rocker.

The second part, is quite true. You’ll notice there was a back and forth, from both of them despite exy’s lie in this thread designed to start a fight, right up to the point where I posted. After that, **Operation Ripper** dropped it.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/289 "2006-03-14T20:35:06Z")

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> [@lissener](#):
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> This cracks me up. People are WAY more invested in proving me “wrong” than I am in proving myself “right.”
> 
> I read, I parsed, I read others’ opinions, I re-read, I re-parsed, and I formed my own opinions. My opinion may be based on a more cynical view than yours. Whatever. You don’t agree with me, fine. But who’s all undie-bunched about it? “Admitting I’m wrong” when my opinion remains unchanged would just be dishonest. _Pas. Moi._
> 
> Fine, only Maureen knows for sure, and each of us has to decide whether we believe her “testimony” or not. I may be more jaded, or more cynical, than you. I may even be wrong. But until we get Maureen on a lie detector test, I’m gonna form my own opinion. And gang bullying ain’t gonna have a whole lot of affect on that opinion. Fact is, if she hadn’t been so cryptic in the first place, there’d be less margin for error here. As it stands, we’re all within the margin she provided.
> 
> I say we keep this going until the EC-related posts seem like the tangent.

Believe it or not that really was an apology. I didn’t want to come off as piling on when you had posted a live and let live post before my post.

Jim

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/290 "2006-03-14T20:37:07Z")

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Yeeikes. That should read:

> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> In fact, is exy not unhinged and looking for a fight?

> [@What Exit?](#):
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> and I checked FinnAgain once when he overreacted to something in a pit thread

Me? Overract? Surely you jest! 😃

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/291 "2006-03-14T20:37:49Z")

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Oi. Assidently switched a sentence around:  
But who’s all undie-bunched about it? _Pas. Moi._ “Admitting I’m wrong” when my opinion remains unchanged would just be dishonest. [del]_Pas. Moi._ [/del]

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**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/292 "2006-03-14T20:38:38Z")

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> [@Excalibre](#):
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> It didn’t “stop” a pissing match. The discussion was _already over_ when he stepped up to throw another bit of shit at me.

Yeah, that’s kinda the way I saw it, if one can even _call_ it a pissing match. So are we agreed Finn’s a sniveling cock?

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/293 "2006-03-14T20:40:15Z")

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> [@What Exit?](#):
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> Believe it or not that really was an apology. I didn’t want to come off as piling on when you had posted a live and let live post before my post.
> 
> Jim

K, thanks. Lovin the continuing crypto-posts. Or, maybe my parse intake is clogged.

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**Author:** ![Xploder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/a183cd/32.png) [@Xploder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xploder)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/294 "2006-03-14T20:40:17Z")

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> [@El Cid Viscoso](#):
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> Yeah, that’s kinda the way I saw it, if one can even _call_ it a pissing match. So are we agreed Finn’s a sniveling cock?

Without a doubt.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/295 "2006-03-14T20:41:22Z")

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> [@What Exit?](#):
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> Lissener is in one of his pit moods where he has decided he is right and he won’t accept that anyone else’s view is a viable option unless they agree with him.  
> This thread will eventually die out and he will recover and go back to his very thoughtful and insightful posts in the Cafe.  
> In the meantime, arguing with him won’t end up making a difference to him.
> 
> Jim

I think these may be the sanest words in this crazy thread.

And, IMHO, **lissener** , in this thread (in the Pit in general) could be characterized as shrill. I would have said officious, but I can see that construed as shrill.

> [@lissener](#):
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> Sigh. I have acknowledged the other views. I have only said that I don’t agree with them. I’m not trying to convince anyone, I’m just saying they haven’t convinced me. End of story.

Now who’s got the martyr complex?

Are we all arguing over **Evil Captor’s** contributions and/or hijacks anymore?  
Very odd doings here.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/296 "2006-03-14T20:42:47Z")

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> [@lissener](#):
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> Oi. Assidently switched a sentence around:  
> But who’s all undie-bunched about it? _Pas. Moi._ “Admitting I’m wrong” when my opinion remains unchanged would just be dishonest. [del]_Pas. Moi._ [/del]

I think most of us understand that about you. Stick by your guns; just do not let it get you too upset.

**El Cid Viscoso** : I don’t know you and you apparently dislike FinnAgain but from what I saw FinnAgain did stop a useless pissing match earlier on in this thread. So I think you are letting past experiences color your opinion on this.

Jim

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**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/297 "2006-03-14T20:43:20Z")

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> [@El Cid Viscoso](#):
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> … So are we agreed Finn’s a sniveling cock?

I keep reading that as _shriveling cock_, and am wondering if we have a cold water and swimming situation here or what.

In any event, can we please get back to the plan to spank the Mods with riding crops and sell pictures on E-Bay? I bet we could make a killing and buy a new server, especially given the habit that some of them have of wearing jackboots

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/298 "2006-03-14T20:43:52Z")

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> [@El Cid Viscoso](#):
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> Yeah, that’s kinda the way I saw it, if one can even _call_ it a pissing match.

Ahhh, I see, simply going to ignore the posts?  
Up until the post right before mine there was a back and forth. In the post right after mine, **OR** dropped the tangent. Can you deny any of these facts?

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/299 "2006-03-14T20:45:40Z")

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> [@lissener (rearranged as per his intention)](#):
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> This cracks me up. People are WAY more invested in proving me “wrong” than I am in proving myself “right.”
> 
> I read, I parsed, I read others’ opinions, I re-read, I re-parsed, and I formed my own opinions. My opinion may be based on a more cynical view than yours. Whatever. You don’t agree with me, fine. But who’s all undie-bunched about it? _Pas. Moi._ “Admitting I’m wrong” when my opinion remains unchanged would just be dishonest.

I don’t know about anyone else but It’s not my intention to prove anyone–or get anyone to admit being–wrong. It’s all about getting them to acknolwege the possibility.

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**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/300 "2006-03-14T20:46:02Z")

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> [@lissener](#):
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> _Pas. Moi._

Dude. You don’t really talk like this, do you? 😃

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