# Evil Captor's suspension

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 13, 2006, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172 "2006-03-13T15:49:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/341 "2006-03-14T22:10:27Z")

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> When the FCC gets 100 letters complaining about a radio show, that puts them into a special category too, usually one of getting a hefty fine.
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> It’s only when you find out that those 100 were not spontaneous complaints from listeners, but an organized campaign to attack a hated personality that it raises eyebrows.
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> That’s the x-factor here. People were complaining about him on another board, opened a pit thread here advertising the problem they have with him. After that whole mess, his posting habits get put under a microscope and anyone who doesn’t like the tone of his post can report him, knowing there are other people who agree. I wonder if there would be nearly as many complaints if certain folks didn’t press for action against him.

Well I was someone who only reported him once and I wasn’t part of the nether world Conversation and assault. I think the one time I reported him was a legitimately inappropriate post. I have already said I hope he comes back and behaves. Unlike Exy opinion of EC, I do think EC contributes good posts most of the time.

Jim

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**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/342 "2006-03-14T22:11:51Z")

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> That’s the x-factor here. People were complaining about him on another board, opened a pit thread here advertising the problem they have with him. After that whole mess, his posting habits get put under a microscope and anyone who doesn’t like the tone of his post can report him, knowing there are other people who agree. I wonder if there would be nearly as many complaints if certain folks didn’t press for action against him.

Yeah, except that if you’ve ever visited the snarkboards, it’s pretty obvious they’re anything but an organized group. That’s one of the reasons I like the place, actually - without the use of usernames, there’s a lot less ego-tripping and a lot fewer people forming stupid little teams the way **Evil Captor** ’s crew did. Since I started one of those pit threads, I can tell you with absolute certainty that I was grossed out by **Evil Captor** for quite some time - long before I caught wind of it on the snarkboards. It’s false - and a sleazy argument tactic to boot - to claim that I started that thread as some sort of “representative” of the snarkboards. If you ever visit, you’ll see how obvious it is that people there don’t team up on _anything_. Cool it with the character assassination, big guy.

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**Author:** ![Hamadryad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6de8d8/32.png) [@Hamadryad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamadryad)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/343 "2006-03-14T22:13:17Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> **Operation Ripper** : Just a bit of friendly advice, but were I you, I wouldn’t waste my time with your current sparring partner. He’s rather unhinged and comes to this message board to start fights. He’s really not worth your time.

As long as other people took the hijack back up, I’m looking for some clarification from someone who doesn’t think “I don’t like it” is the same as “it’s unintelligible.”

Is FinnAgain honestly saying that this post of his was supposed to **end conflict**? I’m trying to wrap my mind around this. Is he saying his potshot at **Excalibre** was supposed to be an attempt at _détente_? Someone please tell me I’m missing something, and he’s not really this much of an asshead. I’m on my knees with my hands tied behind my back beggin’, here.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/344 "2006-03-14T22:14:08Z")

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> [@What Exit?](#):
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> I do think EC contributes good posts most of the time.

Indeed. I really do hope that he comes back, I enjoy seeing him post in political threads. I, for one, couldn’t care less if he talked about bondage in every single post, but with the info you’ve provided about **Lib** getting warned for hijacking, it does seem like that’s an established rule on this board. So I can’t really object to the decision.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/345 "2006-03-14T22:18:07Z")

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> [@Excalibre](#):
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> …snip… Meanwhile, **Arnold Winklereid** posted a bunch of out and out lies claiming I was only pitting him on behalf of the snarkboards (again, a ridiculous idea as the snarkboards are anything but a unified brigade) …snip…

From what I have seen it makes the pit look polite and sensible and you have more detractors there than here. Or is it just 2 or 3 extra vocal ones?

I really think that EC managed to annoy a large amount of people on his own. His off target BDSM posts in the Cafe especially upset people. I usually passed them over or laughed at them, but I saw a lot of anger towards him. I don’t think we need a conspiracy theory to account for the report this posts against him.

**Hamadryad** : what is your axe to grind? It seems like you have an unrelated complaint against Finn and just want a chance to air it out. In this thread of hijacks, yours seems the oddest.

Jim

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/346 "2006-03-14T22:19:10Z")

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> [@Hamadryad](#):
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> Is FinnAgain honestly saying that this post of his was supposed to **end conflict**?

Not only was it supposed to end the pissing match, [it did.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7194183&postcount=212)

In **Operation Ripper** ’s own words, he agreed with what I said, and dropped his part in the spat. Don’t know why you’re having quite so much trouble understanding what’s in black and white, but that aint exactly my problem, nor my concern.

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**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/347 "2006-03-14T22:20:41Z")

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> [@What Exit?](#):
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> From what I have seen it makes the pit look polite and sensible and you have more detractors there than here. Or is it just 2 or 3 extra vocal ones?

No idea. That’s the fun/bizarre part of it. But yeah, I’m certainly not the favorite at the snarkboards - and I’m sure you won’t think ill of me if I admit I’ve never worked all that hard to cultivate a following there. Which just makes it even more obvious that I was not leading some sort of snarkboard invasion - because no one would follow.

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**Author:** ![Hamadryad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6de8d8/32.png) [@Hamadryad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamadryad)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/348 "2006-03-14T22:21:55Z")

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> [@Excalibre](#):
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> I can tell you with absolute certainty that I was grossed out by **Evil Captor** for quite some time - long before I caught wind of it on the snarkboards. It’s false - and a sleazy argument tactic to boot - to claim that I started that thread as some sort of “representative” of the snarkboards.

Not to mention that, IIRC, when the thread over snarkly way about him was going, there were several people who said that they had reported a post here or there in the past, and that they were glad to know they hadn’t been the only ones.

With any topic involving deviant sexual activity, it’s easy to get caught in the too-PC mindset. “Am I the only one who thinks he’s being inappropriate? Am I secretly a little bit uptight? Maybe I’m the only one who notices that a LOT of his posts in non-sexual threads seem to end up tilting toward bondage. Am I just being intolerent?”

As has been pointed out many times - and is true, so sorry - on this board people with an alternative lifestyle (of WHATEVER type) seem to get a lot of support merely for the FACT that they’re not “normal” (pick your own definition; this is subjective to all). It’s difficult to be the first person to publicly step up and say, “Um, I like to think I’m broad-minded, but I’m getting a little bit squicked by this guy…” It’s far too likely that you’ll be jumped on by people who defend for the sake of defending.

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**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/349 "2006-03-14T22:24:13Z")

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> [@Hamadryad](#):
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> As has been pointed out many times - and is true, so sorry - on this board people with an alternative lifestyle (of WHATEVER type) seem to get a lot of support merely for the FACT that they’re not “normal” (pick your own definition; this is subjective to all). It’s difficult to be the first person to publicly step up and say, “Um, I like to think I’m broad-minded, but I’m getting a little bit squicked by this guy…” It’s far too likely that you’ll be jumped on by people who defend for the sake of defending.

Amen. The fact that he’s our most vocal perv doesn’t mean he should get a pass on being obnoxious. I’d suggest we elect a new pet perv, but none of us pervs seem to want to be known as “that [insert kink here] afficionado”.

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**Author:** ![Hamadryad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6de8d8/32.png) [@Hamadryad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamadryad)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/350 "2006-03-14T22:26:46Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> Not only was it supposed to end the pissing match, [it did.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7194183&postcount=212)
> 
> In **Operation Ripper** ’s own words, he agreed with what I said, and dropped his part in the spat. Don’t know why you’re having quite so much trouble understanding what’s in black and white, but that aint exactly my problem, nor my concern.

“Oh, don’t talk to THAT guy. He’s a dookiehead.”  
“You’re right! He IS a dookiehead!”

Pardon my obviously utterly baseless digs. It’s quite obvious that, when your conversation is broken down to its basics, YOU, sir, are the master of tact, diplomacy and wisdom.

I shudder to think how base and low I must appear to these other lovely people, who doubtless pity me for my naiveté.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/351 "2006-03-14T22:29:55Z")

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How about necrophiliac bestiality? Worked in one of Star Trek threads.

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**Author:** ![RyJae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9d8465/32.png) [@RyJae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RyJae)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/352 "2006-03-14T22:34:14Z")

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> [@Excalibre](#):
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> Amen. The fact that he’s our most vocal perv doesn’t mean he should get a pass on being obnoxious. I’d suggest we elect a new pet perv, but none of us pervs seem to want to be known as “that [insert kink here] afficionado”.

Can I be considered for that spot? I have no real kinks but I will study hard on clown sex or something to be noticed. I will pop into Cafe Society and impart my words of wisdom on Clown Sex where ever I see a need to open up others eyes.

I am assuming since being peed on is a kink for some, clown sex has to be out there somewhere.

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**Author:** ![Greathouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greathouse/32/2992_2.png) [@Greathouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greathouse)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/353 "2006-03-14T22:36:35Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> How about necrophiliac bestiality? Worked in one of Star Trek threads.

That’s Hot!!

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**Author:** ![Lilairen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@Lilairen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lilairen)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/354 "2006-03-14T22:36:52Z")

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> [@Excalibre](#):
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> Amen. The fact that he’s our most vocal perv doesn’t mean he should get a pass on being obnoxious. I’d suggest we elect a new pet perv, but none of us pervs seem to want to be known as “that [insert kink here] afficionado”.

I nominate **Ensign Edison**.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/355 "2006-03-14T22:43:55Z")

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I must ask… what, exactly, is your damage?

> [@Hamadryad](#):
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> Pardon my obviously utterly baseless digs.

Did my post stop the pissing match, or did it not?

We’ve already seen Exy lie and say that it was ‘over’, but that’s patently false. (And interesting that some folks seem to want to jump on me rather than call Exy on, again, lying in order to cause drama)  
And we’ve already seen **Operation Ripper** agree with my advice and agree to drop the pissing match due to my advice.

What exactly is confusing you here?

> [@Hamadryad](#):
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> It’s quite obvious that, when your conversation is broken down to its basics, YOU, sir, are the master of tact, diplomacy and wisdom.

You seem to be struggling, rather comically, under the belief that I care one iota about a loon who lies in order to start fights. I couldn’t possibly care less on that score, I was just warning someone who wasn’t yet aware, that he shouldn’t waste his time. Upon hearing my warning, he took my advice and decided not to further waste his time.

The last time I made any attempt at being conciliatory with that unhinged provocateur, he went right 'round the bend and claimed that my offering of an olive branch, was, in fact, an attack upon him. I have much better things to do with my time than bother with crazy people. I am perfectly capable of being diplomatic when the situation calls for it. When I’m advising someone not to waste time talking with a wackjob, then I don’t need to be diplomatic.

I have no idea what’s so hard for you to understand here.

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**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/356 "2006-03-14T22:44:35Z")

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> [@Lilairen](#):
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> I nominate **Ensign Edison**.

I’m your huckleberry.

🆒

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/357 "2006-03-14T22:46:14Z")

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> [@Ensign Edison](#):
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> I’m your huckleberry.
> 
> 🆒

You’re into Hucking Berries? That is kinky.

Jim

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**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/358 "2006-03-14T22:46:47Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> Did my post stop the pissing match, or did it not?

Obviously not. The pissing match was done. You just saw a good opportunity to fling shit when you thought you wouldn’t get called on it.

You really are pathetic, aren’t you?

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**Author:** ![Lilairen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@Lilairen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lilairen)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/359 "2006-03-14T22:48:05Z")

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> [@Ensign Edison](#):
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> I’m your huckleberry.
> 
> 🆒

Though I’d like to take this moment to note that this fruit roleplay thing, that’s kinda weird.

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**Author:** ![RyJae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9d8465/32.png) [@RyJae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RyJae)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/360 "2006-03-14T22:48:47Z")

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> [@What Exit?](#):
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> You’re into Hucking Berries? That is kinky.
> 
> Jim

Yes but is it as kinky as clown sex?

And would everyone else stop trying to hijack our kink thread …

…what?

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