# Evil Captor's suspension **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 13, 2006, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172 "2006-03-13T15:49:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/61 "2006-03-13T20:31:04Z")
> [@Excalibre](#): > > So how about somebody thinking of the adults? Even though I’m an adult, it doesn’t mean I want to hear the intimate details of someone else’s sex life or sexual fantasies. Do you really think that’s such an odd thing? That’s a response to an argument i never made. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/62 "2006-03-13T20:33:28Z")
> [@CandidGamera](#): > > Yadda yadda free speech, yadda yadda not hurting anybody, yadda yadda object to suspension. > > I can’t see any reason for the suspension other than bending over backwards to the prudish offenderati. So what if he does consistently steer threads, now and then, towards a topic of choice? It’s an amusing quirk. > > So, hey, who’s reading Infinite Crisis? > > 😉 Speaking of DC superheroes, Wonder Woman is an excellent example of bondage fantasies prevalent in the mainstream. Many covers of her comic book frequently show her tied up by her own lasso by men and women alike. I recall one such bondage cover where she was tied to a buoy, and a blunt-ended torpedo was coming towards her. If that’s not suggestive, I don’t know what is. Moreover, her life among the Amazons is indicative of a lesbian community into bondage … whew, I must stop now. /wipes sweat off forehead ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/63 "2006-03-13T20:40:08Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Lamest justification ever. No. It’s easy for a child to seer clear - or be steered clear - of the TMI threads or those of obvious dubiousness. It’s a lot harder when you have posters like EC. Or perhaps it isn’t. I’m not a parent. Enlighten me. ---
**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/64 "2006-03-13T20:47:23Z")
> [@Knowed Out](#): > > Speaking of DC superheroes, Wonder Woman is an excellent example of bondage fantasies prevalent in the mainstream… [Oh yeah. gotta go spend some “quality time” alone now](http://www.superdickery.com/bondage/1.html) ---
**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/65 "2006-03-13T20:48:01Z")
> [@CandidGamera](#): > > Your sense of humor is as nuanced as your sense of propriety, I see. 'Twas humor, what with the “yadda yadda”, and all, I got the joke. It just didn’t happen to be funny. > [@](#): > > with only the slightest kernel of truth behind it. And you’re pretty clearly wrong about that one. > [@](#): > > “Free Speech” as a constitutional principle does not apply to a private-owned messageboard, true enough - but “Free Speech” is a damn good idea for any forum. Not even slightly. Free speech as a social principle means tolerating even grossly offensive and stupid speech - for instance, white supremacist marches - and it’s necessary for a modern society to exist. But declaring that this must be a _forum_ for every kind of speech in existence means we can’t ban people for being inappropriate, for violating the rules, or for generally reducing the standards of conduct around here. That’s not a good thing. > [@](#): > > Reading is fundamental. Before the inevitable and tedious rebuttal - this is not meant to be an affirmative defense. I also happen to believe “Innocent Until Proven Guilty” is a good idea, even for a private messageboard. I don’t recall an official, public warning. I don’t see any specific linked posts in Tuba’s post. This is most unusual amongst the history of suspensions. He was dealt with privately by the mods. That’s their right. We don’t conduct trials. We don’t have the ability to formally confront our accusers. That’s okay, because the risks are so small - the worst the admins can do is deny you access to a messageboard. That’s hardly a situation even faintly comparable to the formal process for taking away someone’s most precious lives that the criminal court system embodies. It would be nice if they had linked to some stuff in the suspension post, I agree - but there’s no obligation for them to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/66 "2006-03-13T21:08:05Z")
> [@Excalibre](#): > > He was dealt with privately by the mods. That’s their right. We don’t conduct trials. We don’t have the ability to formally confront our accusers. That’s okay, because the risks are so small - the worst the admins can do is deny you access to a messageboard. That’s hardly a situation even faintly comparable to the formal process for taking away someone’s most precious lives that the criminal court system embodies. It would be nice if they had linked to some stuff in the suspension post, I agree - but there’s no obligation for them to do so. Not only that, but he wasn’t even banned. Just suspended for a month. ---
**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/67 "2006-03-13T21:08:59Z")
> [@Cynical Optimist](#): > > It’s a reference to a certain board where nonnies (anonymous posters, aka the Basement Brigade) can rant about their “favorite” Dopers without mod retaliation. I won’t post the URL (if doing so isn’t a bannable offence it should be) but it isn’t too hard to find. > > It can be fun to read if you’re in an AOLesque mood though… I of corse have no idea what you could possibly be talking about. And was just snarking at how the moderators seem to have been pressurised into a susspension by off board efforts. Like it or lump it the ranters are part of this community even if not this web site. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/68 "2006-03-13T21:17:16Z")
> [@Excalibre](#): > > Most of us know what it means. It doesn’t make **Bippy the Beardless** ’s post anything but a complete non-sequitur. Good thing _you’ve_ never brought up that place for no readily apparent reason, huh? ---
**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/69 "2006-03-13T21:18:29Z")
> [@Bippy the Beardless](#): > > I of corse have no idea what you could possibly be talking about. And was just snarking at how the moderators seem to have been pressurised into a susspension by off board efforts. > Like it or lump it the ranters are part of this community even if not this web site. You’re right! The only sensible thing to do is always do the exact opposite of whatever they want on the Sooper-Dooper-Sekrit-Place-Of-Infamy-Whose-Name-I-Won’t-Utter-Lest-I-Be-Cast-Out. That’s what the mods should be doing. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/70 "2006-03-13T21:18:44Z")
> [@Bippy the Beardless](#): > > I of corse have no idea what you could possibly be talking about… Right. You are “snarking” about “nonnies” but oh lord no, you just have no idea whatever **Cynical Optimist** could possibly be talking about. :rolleyes: More to the point, why should be even consider that the Mods here give a shit about some anonymous LJ community and the pressure that they bring to bear. Give me a break. ---
**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/71 "2006-03-13T21:20:02Z")
> [@Q.E.D.](#): > > Good thing _you’ve_ never brought up that place for no readily apparent reason, huh? Ooh, burn. Still trying to claim you weren’t looking to get revenge on all us mean nonnies like you said you were? Como talle vu, **Q.E.D.**? ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/72 "2006-03-13T21:20:40Z")
Hm. So . . . external forces lob a hijack bomb to see if they can trainwreck this thread, and the general reaction is NOT to ignore it. What could possibly go wrong? ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/73 "2006-03-13T21:22:07Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > No. It’s easy for a child to seer clear - or be steered clear - of the TMI threads or those of obvious dubiousness. It’s a lot harder when you have posters like EC. > > Or perhaps it isn’t. I’m not a parent. Enlighten me. I’m not a parent either. I can only speak from the experience of my memories of being a 14-year old. Personally, as a teenager i wouldn’t have been trying to “steer clear” of TMI threads. In fact, i would have been actively seeking them out. And how many parents do you think sit next to their kids and monitor which threads they read on the SDMB? I recognize that some material on this board might not be suitable for kids; i merely take issue with your suggestion that this is something we need to worry about, or that we need to take into account when making our posts. ---
**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/74 "2006-03-13T21:22:25Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > Hm. So . . . external forces lob a hijack bomb to see if they can trainwreck this thread, and the general reaction is NOT to ignore it. What could possibly go wrong? Now that I think about it, that _would_ be an adequate explanation of **Bippy the Beardless** ’ behavior . . . ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/75 "2006-03-13T21:25:37Z")
> [@Bippy the Beardless](#): > > I of corse have no idea what you could possibly be talking about. And was just snarking at how the moderators seem to have been pressurised into a susspension by off board efforts. > Like it or lump it the ranters are part of this community even if not this web site. In their dreams. I was not even aware that the snarkers had started their 18,000,000th snipe fest about **E C** until his name came up in staff discussion based on reported posts–and the Mods who introduced the topic to the staff are not the Mods who do vist the snarkers. (The snarkers have gotten so boring I rarely visit more than once a week.) **Loach** has provided the best synopsis of the staff discussions–including the fact that we hardly paid any attention to the specific contents of his hijacks so much as the fact that he continued the hijacks even in his own threads. The discussion focused on one-trick-pony nature of the hijacks, (because **E C** _does_ participate with more varied topics–when he is not hijacking threads), not on the content of the hijacks. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/76 "2006-03-13T21:28:57Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > In their dreams. > > I was not even aware that the snarkers had started their 18,000,000th snipe fest about **E C** until his name came up in staff discussion based on reported posts–and the Mods who introduced the topic to the staff are not the Mods who do vist the snarkers. (The snarkers have gotten so boring I rarely visit more than once a week.) > > **Loach** has provided the best synopsis of the staff discussions–including the fact that we hardly paid any attention to the specific contents of his hijacks so much as the fact that he continued the hijacks even in his own threads. The discussion focused on one-trick-pony nature of the hijacks, (because **E C** _does_ participate with more varied topics–when he is not hijacking threads), not on the content of the hijacks. Thank you for the clarification. I at least appreciate it a lot. So it wasn’t a specific post that broke the camel’s back but a continuation of a pattern. Hopefully next month he will refrain from this activity. He is actually an interesting poster when he is not drooling over bondage. Jim ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/77 "2006-03-13T21:28:59Z")
> [@Cynical Optimist](#): > > I won’t post the URL (if doing so isn’t a bannable offence it should be)… Posting links to the snarkboard is part of what got **DrLoveGun** banned. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/78 "2006-03-13T21:40:41Z")
> [@Excalibre](#): > > Ooh, burn. Still trying to claim you weren’t looking to get revenge on all us mean nonnies like you said you were? Como talle vu, **Q.E.D.**? Trying to add a little _caché_ to your posts, eh? Glass houses, my friend. Glass houses. But, since you brought it up, you’ll be kind enough to show me where I ever said I was trying to get revenge on anyone? I’ll accept a copy & paste in lieu of a link, if such a post exists on the other board. I’m fairly certain I never made any such statement. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/79 "2006-03-13T21:42:47Z")
\*comment allez vous cachet\* ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172/80 "2006-03-13T21:43:52Z")
> [@Q.E.D.](#): > > Trying to add a little _caché_ to your posts, eh? Glass houses, my friend. Glass houses. > > But, since you brought it up, you’ll be kind enough to show me where I ever said I was trying to get revenge on anyone? I’ll accept a copy & paste in lieu of a link, if such a post exists on the other board. I’m fairly certain I never made any such statement. Now THERE’S a good idea: cutting and pasting posts from the snarkboards. How did this thread become 100% about the snarkboards? I’d say the trainwreck grenade worked. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-captors-suspension/348172.md?page=5)