# Evil Character You Can't Help Liking

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 19, 2005, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-character-you-cant-help-liking/285470 "2005-01-19T00:53:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-character-you-cant-help-liking/285470/61 "2005-01-19T22:06:18Z")

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Christopher Walken as the Archangel Gabriel in the _Prophecy_ series.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-character-you-cant-help-liking/285470/62 "2005-01-19T22:19:31Z")

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My favorite bad guys seem to be animated:

Mandy  
Mojo Jojo  
Him  
Grim  
Hector con Carne  
Boris Badanov  
Natasha (Le Femme?)  
Plankton  
Stewie Griffin

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**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-character-you-cant-help-liking/285470/63 "2005-01-19T22:26:49Z")

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In keeping with the TV vein, my clear favorite is **Sheriff Buck** from **American Gothic**.

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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-character-you-cant-help-liking/285470/64 "2005-01-19T23:53:43Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Well, sure, he isn’t the destroy/take over the world kind of evil, but personally I think that makes him all the more dangerous. For him, it’s all a big game - the plots, counterplots, manipulation, etc etc etc etc. He does take risks, but they’re all calculated; I don’t think he ever puts himself in a situation where he’s truly in over his head.

Yeah, but being a cunning politician doesn’t make him a villain. 🆒

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-character-you-cant-help-liking/285470/65 "2005-01-19T23:59:11Z")

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Armand from _The Vampire Chronicles_ (and what the hell were they thinking when they cast Antonio Banderas?)

Most of the Greek gods (especially Zeus and Apollo)

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-character-you-cant-help-liking/285470/66 "2005-01-20T00:04:16Z")

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Endora & Maurice from _Bewitched_. Personally I don’t see them as evil (seeing your daughter made to do housework and forbidden to use her powers would be the equivalent of watching your college-educated highly intelligent and skilled daughter marry a member of the Taliban who makes her wear a burqa and forbids her to ride in a car or talk in public), but they were more or less the villains from the show.

Stewey from _Family Guy_

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-character-you-cant-help-liking/285470/67 "2005-01-20T01:13:05Z")

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From Tom Smith’s filk “Rocket Ride” – [http://www.tomsmithonline.com/lyrics/rocket\_ride.htm:](http://www.tomsmithonline.com/lyrics/rocket_ride.htm:)

> [@](#):
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> How many demons out in cyberspace  
> Will possess every hacker’s will?  
> How many members of a master race  
> Will come closing in for the kill?
> 
> How many xenomorphs will change their face,  
> And then hunt us down for a thrill?  
> Give me a villain with style and grace,  
> And a little bit of fencing skill.
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> They used to be angular, sneering and bald,  
> If someone got killed even they were appalled,  
> They tried to marry the heroine, no thought of rape,  
> And they sure as hell knew how to wear a cape.
> 
> They never tortured, they never lied,  
> They’d honor a promise if it meant they died.  
> Let’s find a villain with professional pride,  
> Come on with me, baby, on a rocket ride.  
> Come on with me, baby, on a rocket ride.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-character-you-cant-help-liking/285470/68 "2005-01-20T01:20:14Z")

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> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#):
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> Ooh! Ooh! Satan, from _Highway 61_. In order to finance his cross-country trip, Satan goes to a small-town Church Bingo game and whips everyone’s butt, winning the prize money and a macrame plant holder made by one of the little old bingo ladies. As he leaves, an angry woman mutters under her breath that he must’ve been cheating, at which point he turns around and says, “Lady, you can’t cheat at bingo. If you could, I would, but you can’t. I won because I was lucky - lucky to wind up in a town full of losers!” He then drops the plant holder into a trashcan and leaves, while I’m rolling hysterically on the ground.
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> And that’s not even getting into the scene where he corrupts a little girl, one of the wrongest and funniest things I’ve ever seen.

Was that a movie? I can’t find it on the IMDB.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-character-you-cant-help-liking/285470/69 "2005-01-20T14:10:52Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Was that a movie? I can’t find it on the IMDB.

Yep! For some reason, when you search for it by exact name, it doesn’t show up under “popular matches” it shows up under “Exact matches,” the next section down. Stupid IMDB.

[here’s the link](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102035/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnxteD0yMHxzZz0xfGxtPTIwMHx0dD1vbnxwbj0wfHE9SGlnaHdheSA2MXxodG1sPTF8bm09b24_;fc=4;ft=21;fm=1).

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-character-you-cant-help-liking/285470/70 "2005-01-20T14:29:00Z")

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**The Deaf Man** from Ed McBain’s mysteries. This guy is ruthless, clever, and an all around wiseass. I love him.

I hope to get the rights to all the Deaf Man mysteries in ten years and make a series of movies starring Leo Dicaprio.

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**Author:** ![GLWasteful](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f05b48/32.png) [@GLWasteful](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GLWasteful)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-character-you-cant-help-liking/285470/71 "2005-01-20T14:51:51Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Natasha (Le Femme?)

Close. It’s “Fatale”.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-character-you-cant-help-liking/285470/72 "2005-01-20T15:32:09Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> **The Deaf Man** from Ed McBain’s mysteries. This guy is ruthless, clever, and an all around wiseass. I love him.

You know, I stopped reading the 87th Precint books about 13 years ago. Did Carella ever catch him?

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-character-you-cant-help-liking/285470/73 "2005-01-20T15:40:54Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> You know, I stopped reading the 87th Precint books about 13 years ago. Did Carella ever catch him?

Nope. The Deaf Man has appeared in THE HECKLER, FUZZ, LET’S HEAR IT FOR THE DEAF MAN, EIGHT BLACK HORSES, MISCHIEF, and HARK! I understand that McBain has written an 87 mystery called “EXIT” (if you make an alphabetical list of his works with one word titles “E” is missing. Take that, Sue Grafton!) to be published as his last work after his death. I hope The Deaf Man and/or Carella get killed in it.

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**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-character-you-cant-help-liking/285470/74 "2005-01-20T16:00:36Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> [S]eeing your daughter made to do housework and forbidden to use her powers would be the equivalent of watching your college-educated highly intelligent and skilled daughter marry a member of the Taliban who makes her wear a burqa and forbids her to ride in a car or talk in public[.]

I’ve seen _Bewitched_ on TVLand lately, and this just drives me up a wall! Darrin is a total asshole, and Endora was completely right to hold him in total scorn. In this day and age, his attitude (not uncommon for its day) makes the show completely unwatchable!

By the way, I’m a conservative… very few of us adhere to the “barefoot and pregnant” school of thought.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-character-you-cant-help-liking/285470/75 "2005-01-20T17:12:53Z")

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Ismbard \*“I’m very good with pain” \*Prince, from [Lexx](http://www.sadgeezer.com/html/Sections+index-req-viewarticle-artid-133-page-1.html).

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**Author:** ![archmichael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@archmichael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/archmichael)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-character-you-cant-help-liking/285470/76 "2005-01-20T17:41:29Z")

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Alan Rickman (again) in any bad guy role, but his best IS Hans Gruber

Jason Isaacs (again), who seems to have replaced Rickmans as THE British guy you want for evil roles. Might remember him as Lucius Malfoy or from the Patriot.

Christopher Walken in King of New York. “I never killed anybody who didn’t deserve it”

Joe Mantegna as “Fat Tony” in “The Simpsons”. “People like rats. But they don’t like to drink the rat’s milk?”

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-character-you-cant-help-liking/285470/77 "2005-01-20T17:52:45Z")

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Q. _Definitely_ Q.

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-character-you-cant-help-liking/285470/78 "2005-01-20T18:41:16Z")

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> [@archmichael](#):
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> Alan Rickman (again) in any bad guy role, but his best IS Hans Gruber
> 
> Jason Isaacs (again), who seems to have replaced Rickmans as THE British guy you want for evil roles. Might remember him as Lucius Malfoy or from the Patriot.

Couldn’t agree with you more!!

I’ll have to add another vote for Grim (from “The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy”). While the show’s plotlines are often lacking for my tastes, Grim is an outstanding and very consistent character. And I love the animation style.

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-character-you-cant-help-liking/285470/79 "2005-01-20T19:52:17Z")

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_Richard III_

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-character-you-cant-help-liking/285470/80 "2005-01-20T20:04:31Z")

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I was never liked _Family Guy_ all that much, but I think Stewie is hilarious, and the voice acting on him is brilliant. “What the _Hell_ do you think you’re doing?!”

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