# Evil Character You Can't Help Liking **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 19, 2005, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-character-you-cant-help-liking/285470 "2005-01-19T00:53:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-character-you-cant-help-liking/285470/101 "2005-01-21T17:10:45Z")
> [@Dubious Weasle](#): > > The General in Doctor Strangelove [Sterling Hayden, don’t remember the character’s name How could you forget a name like Gen. Jack D. Ripper? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-character-you-cant-help-liking/285470/102 "2005-01-21T17:52:34Z")
The entire cast of _Payback_; Mel Gibson and James Coburn were the best of the best. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-character-you-cant-help-liking/285470/103 "2005-01-21T19:57:15Z")
> [@Odinoneeye](#): > > Several from Get Smart > > Ziegried and Stalker > Bronzefinger > The Craw (Not the Craw, the Craw!) > > Hagbard Celine from Illuminatus! > > Lord Vetinari from the Discworld books I don’t think Lord vetinari is evil at all, rtaher, True Neutral in that he really does whatever he feels is necesary for his cause. He could even be Lawful Nuetral - as long as they’re \*his \* laws. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-character-you-cant-help-liking/285470/104 "2005-01-21T21:19:17Z")
You are all apparently overlooking some very important facts: -No one hits like Gaston -Or matches wits like Gaston -In a spitting match nobody spits like Gaston (He’s espcially good at expectorating!) ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-character-you-cant-help-liking/285470/105 "2005-01-21T21:22:22Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > You are all apparently overlooking some very important facts: > > -No one hits like Gaston > -Or matches wits like Gaston > -In a spitting match nobody spits like Gaston (He’s espcially good at expectorating!) And he was quite hot, for a cartoon. The only thing was, the Beast was hotter when he changed back. Although I was a bit miffed that the “bad” guy was a brunette, and the “good” guy was a blonde. Humph. ---
**Author:** ![Odinoneeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/97f17d/32.png) [@Odinoneeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odinoneeye)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-character-you-cant-help-liking/285470/106 "2005-01-21T22:53:10Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > I don’t think Lord vetinari is evil at all, rtaher, True Neutral in that he really does whatever he feels is necesary for his cause. He could even be Lawful Nuetral - as long as they’re \*his \* laws. Lawful for sure, but I think the throwing people into scorpion pits and letting them fall to their death if they don’t do what he wants kind of sticks him in the evil category. ---
**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2005, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-character-you-cant-help-liking/285470/107 "2005-01-26T14:51:28Z")
This one will be obscure to most of my fellow USers, but our cousins to the north will pick up on it: **Albert Golo** from the Canadian drama _North of 60_, played by Gordon Tootoosis. Quite possibly the most complex character ever created in series television. You are never quite sure of his motivation. Is he working only for his own interests, or does he have the interests of the band at heart as well? Are his methods evil? Or merely pragmatic? Fascinating character. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2005, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-character-you-cant-help-liking/285470/108 "2005-01-26T17:27:47Z")
Add in another vote for Scorpius from Farscape, that character constantly keeps you on your toes when you first meet him, you’re put off by his creepy, deathlike appearance, and his aura of cold detachment, he’s willing to do _anything_ to achieve his end results, regardless of who it hurts, you wonder if he has any redeeming traits at all then midway thru season 2, you experience his backstory, his tortured childhood, his guilt over his birth killing his mother, his mental and physical abuse at the hands of the Scarrans, and you begin to understand the depths of his hate for the Scarrans you almost begin to…pity…him, you start thinking “maybe he’s not such a bad guy after all” Season 3 exposes you to more Scarrans and you suddenly find yourself thinking “maybe we should let Scorpy take out the Scarran threat, woud it _really_ be bad to give Scorpy wormhole tech?” then in Season 4, Scorpy does something so evil, you can never forgive him, and you find yourself thinking you were right all along in keeping WT away from Scorpy… then, he saves the life of the crew of Moya, and you start thinking he’s not so bad again then he does something unforgivable again… you never know with Scorpy, is he working for the PK, the Scarrans, Himself, just when you think you can trust him, he does something to shatter that trust Kudos to Wayne Pygram for one of the most developed, three dimensional villians on TV now, if we could just get him to put bonnie hammer and the rest of the suits at the skiffy channel in the Aurora Chair and implant a Neural Clone in their minds, frell the Scarrans, it’s the suits at skiffy that are the _real_ evil here… (yes, i’m still bitter over the cancellation of 'scape, how could you tell? 😉 and no, the miniseries wasn’t enough, i want Season 5 and beyond…) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-character-you-cant-help-liking/285470.md?page=5)