Kobal2
January 13, 2012, 5:03pm
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There’s your third edict, then.
[QUOTE=Malthus]
That’s not what it says. It says:
Or (roughly) “nobody shall be imprisoned or arrested on the appeal of a woman except in the case of the death of her husband.”
My first thought was that it would make a good band name, or possibly album title.
My first thought was bestiality.
[
Vita admitted he needs to “bone up” on the content of the charter, but said “it’s a document that still functions.” He views the bill as similar to efforts in Congress requiring all legislation to cite constitutional authority.
“This is a little bit older than the Constitution, but the same thought is there,” he said.
Asked about any legal hang-ups in requiring New Hampshire bills to derive their authority from an English charter, Kingsbury said “that’s an interesting thought.”
“Everything has an analog, everything has an origin, and this is part of the origin of what we have in our country,” he said.
The Magna Carta doesn’t directly weigh in on modern-day liberty issues like gay marriage, women’s rights or abortion. Vita acknowledged that “all the activist issues that have come up in recent years probably are not addressed in the Magna Carta.”
“It probably didn’t enter anybody’s mind back then,” Vita said. “In spite of that point, I’ll still support the bill.”
](http://www.concordmonitor.com/article/300270/eight-hundred-years-later-inspiration?SESS65a4b683fc77abb556155350449b0d6f=google&page=full )
In a word, no.
Kenm
January 13, 2012, 7:04pm
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Not to put too fine a point on it regarding New Hampshire, Duelling Banjos.
Yllaria
January 13, 2012, 7:19pm
47
According to wiki, even Magna Carta was interfering with traditional family rights.
Clauses 4 to 5 refer to the duties of wardship, specifically forbidding the practice of the over-exploitation of a ward’s property by his warder (or guardian).
Clause 6 refers to a warder’s power over the marriage of his ward. He was forbidden from forcing a marriage to a partner of lower social standing (possibly therefore to one such who may have been willing to pay a higher price for it).
Clause 7 refers to the rights of a widow to receive promptly her dowry and inheritance.
Clause 8 stated that a widow could not be compelled to marry.
Malthus
January 13, 2012, 7:43pm
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Really_Not_All_That_Bright:
That’s not what it says. It says:
Or (roughly) “nobody shall be imprisoned or arrested on the appeal of a woman except in the case of the death of her husband.”
You better tell those guys in New Hampshire ASAP. Important issues hang on having the correct wording! Why, I’ll bet women are getting men arrested there right now, due to Wiki editors’ faulty Latin.
I wonder if the people promoting this idea are prepared to retroactively unimpeach Clinton. Wasn’t a woman’s testimony somehow involved?
Smapti
January 13, 2012, 10:58pm
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Of course, they didn’t have banjos in 13th century England, so to comply with the spirit of the Magna Carta they’ll neeed dueling lutes.
njtt
January 13, 2012, 11:12pm
51
And you thought Republicans were only trying to take America back to the 18th century…
Kobal2
January 14, 2012, 3:35am
52
Lutes are not evil enough. What they need is duelling bagpipes.
The earliest evidence of bagpipes in England, IIRC, is the Canterbury Tales, which weren’t written until the 14th century.
Yllaria
January 18, 2012, 6:10pm
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How about duelling crwths? I don’t know if they’re old enough, but I love the shameless lack of vowels.
The proposed legislation sounds like a challenge to a game.
I’m sure that the denizens of this board could find a long, strained, tortuous route between one of the clauses and any legislation that they’d care to enact. Of course, any discussion on legislation could then be derailed into a discussion of the connection instead of the legislation.
Damn. That would turn the legislature into a message board. Or is it that already? And now I have an urge to start a thread challenging the SDMB to find a connection between a piece of proposed legislation and Magna Carta. Hmmm. Maybe.
Magna Carta Trivia Dominoes - in the Game Room!