# Evil Dead Mafia Forbidden Thread - The Cabin in the Woods **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 18, 2008, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796 "2008-12-18T20:11:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/21 "2008-12-24T07:51:40Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > Absolutely. Scum will rarely be blatantly scummy. Subtlety is way more of a hallmark of scum than bluntness. Absolutely; totally agree with you. Scum would never do that. šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/22 "2008-12-24T09:42:49Z")
I just got caught up to date with the gameā€¦ and i must say, my ego is a bit flattered that I was mentioned a few times already early in Day 1. I figured people had forgotten about me with all the new Mafia games and Facebook games that have been going on, but itā€™s a nice little boost to see my name thrown out there every so often by one of the younger crowdsā€¦ šŸ™‚ That said, I would swallow all of their souls if they keep up some of their thought processes. I woulda lynched Macey too though if i were playing. Scum or not. The town needed information and that was the best way to get it- at least no one threw out the idea of a No lynch Day 1 at least. Anyways, this looks like an interesting game. Iā€™ll def. try to keep up w/ following it having gotten to be a part of its conception. šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/23 "2008-12-24T22:37:19Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > Yup. I suspect **Macey** will turn up Town. :smack: Huge bonus for the Town - well done. Getting an early scum always helps, both in terms of raw numbers, and in terms of psychology: the more Days go by without a scum death, the more frustrated Town normally gets. ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2008, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/24 "2008-12-25T09:19:01Z")
Peds latest post makes me wonder as I donā€™t know the makeup of the game (can I get spoiled/a link to the spoiler boards pmed to me?) but nowā€¦ iā€™m wondering about just what IS in this gameā€™s makeup. I gotta know! ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2008, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/25 "2008-12-25T17:38:16Z")
> [@CatInASuit](#): > > Absolutely; totally agree with you. > > Scum would never do that. šŸ˜› Oh donā€™t get me wrong, I absolutely subscribe to the storyteller ā€œeverytime I tell myself scum would never do that, I hit myself over the head until the thought passesā€ school of thought. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/26 "2008-12-27T18:47:05Z")
**Pleonast** was a Mason and the Detective died Night One? If it werenā€™t for the fact that two scum are down already Iā€™d swear that **story** ā€™s just re-enacting M2 for his own amusement. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/27 "2008-12-27T21:49:39Z")
> [@Mafia: Evil Dead - DAY/NIGHT TWO](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-two/478862/9): > > I have never heard of a Night lynch before - but just to be safe we might need to unvote at Night from now on. No, no no! Lynches are hugely pro-Town. If the Town really does get two lynches per Day/Night cycle they absolutely have to use them. ---
**Author:** ![Pollux\_Oil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/858c86/32.png) [@Pollux\_Oil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pollux_Oil)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/28 "2008-12-28T02:32:50Z")
I havenā€™t been to the Dope in about two months, came in here and read the Day Two/Night Two intro thread, and am now wondering what the hell is going on over here. Arenā€™t the Dope games supposed to be fairly _normal_ compared to the other boardā€™s games? _takes a peek at Idleā€™s game_ Ohā€¦yeah, okay, carry on then. šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/29 "2008-12-28T02:42:31Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > No, no no! Lynches are hugely pro-Town. If the Town really does get two lynches per Day/Night cycle they absolutely have to use them. If there is in fact a night lynch, youā€™re essentially cutting in half the number of scum kills to be performed. TL has been playing long enough to figure this out. ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2008, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/30 "2008-12-29T19:36:44Z")
Hi, everyone. Much calmer in this thread. No zombies aroundā€¦I kinda like it. And thereā€™s **Boozahol**! Really missed you last Night, time to catch up drinking. Iā€™ll have some sort of obscure Belgian ale that smells like pee, in honor of **bufftabby**. Draw one for my pal **Pleo** if he shows up, too. Iā€™m not sure about the etiquette for these threadsā€¦does ā€œno spoilersā€ mean I shouldnā€™t talk about my PM or Night action? Itā€™s a juicy story but I will sit on it if you all would rather try to figure it out for yourself. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2008, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/31 "2008-12-29T20:02:35Z")
Hi, TF. No spoilers pretty much means no spoilers. Also, and unfortunately, due to some quirks in the rules, access to the ā€œrealā€ spoiler fora will be exceedingly limited. You may yet be called on to contribute to the game. ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2008, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/32 "2008-12-30T16:03:32Z")
Cool! I await instructions. Although the next contribution I make to Town winning this game will be my firstā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2008, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/33 "2008-12-30T20:27:36Z")
I have to say that **storyā€™s** color in this game is freakinā€™ hilarious. I particularly enjoyed this from the last dusk post: [QUOTE=storyteller] SOMEONE He speaks in a way that requires interpretation! Kill him! [/QUOTE] :D:D:D Well played, sir. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/34 "2008-12-31T01:34:02Z")
:smack: Ok, has anyone who placed a vote for a confirmed Mason ever ended up scum? Ever? Having a brainfart is not a scum tell! ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/35 "2008-12-31T17:37:33Z")
Hi all. Iā€™m not sure if you noticed, but I took a bit of a mafia holiday; but storytellerā€™s new game seems to be drawing me back. In reviewing stuff, it seems that I was on the winning team for Terminator (Yay!). And to **NAF** , I totally had you pegged on Day One! Ha! šŸ˜ƒ And for actual reasons too. Iā€™m reading through Day One now and the brief exchange of ā€œscum would never do thatā€ was about to make my head explode until I read: > [@Mafia: Evil Dead - DAY/NIGHT ONE](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-one/477854/31): > > Hereā€™s the thing. If youā€™re looking at two potential actions, where one has a clear townie motivation and one has a clear scum motivation, then it makes no sense to claim ā€œwell, he did the townie thing, and scum woud never do that.ā€ Because, of course, doing the townie-er thing is reason enough. Weā€™re in agreement up to here. > > So where does it make sense to say ā€œscum would never do thatā€? When the decision is between inaction, and taking an action that draws attention. If a suspect takes an action that doesnā€™t benefit scum, and had the option to simply doing nothing (and no one would be the wiser), then I tend to consider that a strong indicator of townieness. > > Could scum manipulate that to try and clear themselves? Potentially, but itā€™s an incredibly risky play. Most people donā€™t view that the way I do, so itā€™s not going to clear them in very many eyes. It runs the very large risk of going the way my gambit in the last game did, and simply getting them lynched. IOW, such a play has medium reward, but very high risk. And, of course, even getting to that point requires perfect play. Any slip at all in the sequence of events, or tipping your hand that you wanted people to see the event, totally nullifies it. And given that youā€™d be under scrutiny, itā€™s tough to actually play that perfectly. Praise the Lord! Hopefully **JSexton** will be able to explain what Iā€™ve continued to fail to convey. ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/36 "2009-01-05T11:08:07Z")
Well, that was an ā€œinterestingā€ Day :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/37 "2009-01-05T16:37:18Z")
Yay, Iā€™m allowed to post here. I wonder why I was killed. I donā€™t think **ped** ā€™s ā€œdefenseā€ of me was the reason. While it hinted that I was likely a mason, scum should be looking to kill power roles. Unclaimed masons pose little direct threat at the beginning of the game. If they killed me instead of shooting for a real power role, then Iā€™m happy to take that bullet. Iā€™m very suspicious of **NAF**. His push to get people to remove votes to test if there is a Night lynch, and also suggesting that a Vig refrain from killing, is so anti-Town. If the Town has a Night lynch, not using it would be a major gift to the scum, just like choosing to skip a Day lynch. And power roles, including Vigs, should be left to their own discretion. Also, getting a useless investigation is a halmark of a scum fake-claiming. Despite all that, I get a Townie vibe from him. Welcome back, **sach**! I look forward to playing with/against you in the future. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/38 "2009-01-05T18:55:00Z")
Hey **Pleonast** , thanks for the kind words. Wow. Day Three was phenomenally stupid. The whole Chucara/confirm NAF was dumb dumb dumb to begin with, then they fuck up the execution too. As far as I can tell NAF has been playing his claimed role as well as could be expected. He clearly states he wants to investigate townies and would prefer vanilla townies to ā€œmasonizeā€ them. That is a solid strategy; one that NAF learned earlier when I pointed out that his choice as Detective in Simpletown would have won the game immediately if he had selected his ā€œsuspected townā€ instead of investigating his ā€œsuspected scum.ā€ He was right and found a scum, but that allowed the game to continue. If NAF is scum, then Town handed him an easy-out for the Day three investigation. Anyway, the Chucara gambit was dumb since even a 50% chance of guessing the correct answer would not sit well with the town anyway. They would think 50% is not good enough. And on top of that they decide to lynch Chucara before NAF gets a read on him! JHC! I donā€™t even understand the case against Chucara. He voted for pedescribe, a claimed mason! I read that and I was thinking Town all the way. **Rysto** totally saw it immediately too. What scum is going to vote for a claimed mason? I know this falls into the category of ā€œthings scum wonā€™t doā€ but itā€™s not a matter of pro-town/pro-scum action. Scum would not draw attention to themselves by voting for a known mason. Scum are much more aware of who they are voting for. Town is much more likely to slip up and forget that pedescribe is a mason. Scum, not so much. [del]On other matters, Iā€™m surprised storyteller is allowing conditional questioning. If he allows that, he might as well just allow one multiple choice answer with 27 possible choices. Actually, now that I think about it, DiggitCamara could ask his question as direct, non-conditional A) B) C) questions and get his desired result with a ternary encoding. Essentially, three questions with three groupings is sufficient to discern from a set of 27. i.e. encode Cookies as A - A - A (Cookies is in group A for all three questions) encode Zeriel as A - A - B (Zeriel is in group A for the first two questions and group B for the third) encode NAF as A - A - C encode Hockey as A - B - A etc. This way the questions can be asked as non-conditionals. A same question all three times, but with different groupings. (Is the scum you investigated in group A [knock once], B [twice] or C [thrice]. For ease I would probably use groups ABC, DEF, and GHI to minimize confusion. The basic idea is there. Conditionals are a cheat![/del] I see now that DiggitCamara has amended the plan to eliminate conditionals. His formula has a few typos (he seems to have forgotten the existence of the numbers 8 and 9); but the overall design is sound and conditional free. ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/39 "2009-01-05T20:46:25Z")
Heh, is anyone else hoping to see a lynch based on a Capitalization issue? I love stuff like that, and it always gives me a glimpse into the mind of a Mod vs. the mind of a playerā€¦ IE: Would storyteller be the sort of person to put an intentional error like that into a Post? If he would, why wouldnā€™t Cookies (if scum) just modify it to make it read ā€œbetterā€? Did she really just post her actual Role PM and not realize how that little issue could become a problem? Or did she actually rewrite her pm and that typo is actually her own?? Iā€™m loving this stuff! ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/40 "2009-01-05T20:56:37Z")
No. Lynching Cookies for the capitalization of ā€œtotal lostā€ is simply stupid play. One, itā€™s a bad idea. Two, storyteller has been non-capitalizing ā€œtotal lostā€ consistently: > [@Mafia: Evil Dead - DAY/NIGHT THREE](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-three/479484/62): > > Revised vote count: > > **Chucara** (3) - Diggitcamara, NAF1138, Natlaw > **Diggitcamara** (3) - Millit the Frail, amrussell, pedescribe > **dotchan** (1) - total lost > **Blaster Master** (1) - Chucara > > (I hate doing vote counts, by the way; Iā€™m too easily confused) > [@Mafia: Evil Dead - DAY/NIGHT THREE](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-three/479484/122): > > snippity-do-dah > > Night Three begins now, and will end at around 4:00PM EST on Tuesday, January 6. The vote count stands as follows: > > **amrussell** (1) - pedescribe > **Cookies** (1) - brewha > **Almost Human** (1) - total lost And I think I know what NAF is up to. He wants to make up for lost time and get a two-fer by investigating Cookiesā€™s town-ness. If he can confirm Cookies, then Total Lost gets confirmed by extension. It is a sound plan. All NAF needs to do is forget about trying to confirm himself (he canā€™t and he shouldnā€™t try. He knows this, but got distracted by Chucara). ETA: the interesting question is whether or not storyteller will correct his mistake in his next vote count. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796.md?page=3)