# Evil Dead Mafia Forbidden Thread - The Cabin in the Woods **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 18, 2008, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796 "2008-12-18T20:11:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2009, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/381 "2009-01-27T18:32:24Z")
At least you weren’t wrong for very long. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2009, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/382 "2009-01-27T18:32:26Z")
I am really surprised at the Scum action this past Night. Killing **dotchan** was a mistake, it seems to me, versus simply making the argument that hey, **Blaster Master** was a serial killer and maybe we shouldn’t clear anyone on his word alone. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2009, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/383 "2009-01-27T18:33:27Z")
I’m with you. I am a bit baffled by the scums action the last couple of Nights actually. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2009, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/384 "2009-01-27T18:52:46Z")
Uh… yeah! me too! 😉 I have several issues to sort out. One is the back-up Doc claim which needs more scrutiny. Back-up Doc implies Doc which implies someone was able to protect NAF, DiggitCamara and Cookies – but didn’t. WTH? Second is the no kill night on Night Six. This of course implies the existence of a Doc. I don’t know. Something doesn’t add up. I kind of think that scum decided to no kill so that someone could claim Doc since they’ve concluded that there is no doc? Maybe? Sort of? Possibly? I know, ridiculous. But I can’t explain how there must be NO Doc on nights 1-5 and suddenly a Doc for Night 6, and conveniently a backup-Doc roleclaim on Day 7. Oh, just open up the claimed back-up Doc and let me see the insides. That will sort things out, maybe, possibly… ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/385 "2009-01-27T18:57:12Z")
See, right now is where I wish you knew what I know Sach. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/386 "2009-01-27T19:03:01Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > Second is the no kill night on Night Six. This of course implies the existence of a Doc. I don’t know. Something doesn’t add up. Frankly, a game with 2 cops, a doctor and a backup sounds ridiculously in favour of Town to me. My guess is that there’s a roleblocker out there. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2009, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/387 "2009-01-27T19:04:17Z")
New theory: Doc has a restriction similar to what the backup-doc has posted. The Doc can only protect someone who voted for him. It’s possible that this explains why NAF, DiggitCamara, and Cookies were left unprotected since maybe they never voted for the Doc. The claimed backup-doc could also be the actual Doc. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2009, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/388 "2009-01-27T19:05:17Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > Frankly, a game with 2 cops, a doctor and a backup sounds ridiculously in favour of Town to me. My guess is that there’s a roleblocker out there. Or this. ---
**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2009, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/389 "2009-01-27T19:13:07Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > Uh… yeah! me too! 😉 > > I have several issues to sort out. > One is the back-up Doc claim which needs more scrutiny. Back-up Doc implies Doc which implies someone was able to protect NAF, DiggitCamara and Cookies – but didn’t. WTH? > > Second is the no kill night on Night Six. This of course implies the existence of a Doc. I don’t know. Something doesn’t add up. > > I kind of think that scum decided to no kill so that someone could claim Doc since they’ve concluded that there is no doc? Maybe? Sort of? Possibly? > I know, ridiculous. But I can’t explain how there must be NO Doc on nights 1-5 and suddenly a Doc for Night 6, and conveniently a backup-Doc roleclaim on Day 7. > > Oh, just open up the claimed back-up Doc and let me see the insides. That will sort things out, maybe, possibly… Of course, I know the answer as to whether his claim is truthful or not, so I won’t just say what it is but, as is probably clear from your lack of a conclusion, or lack thereof, some of your assumptions are wrong. Now, I don’t know exactly what the scum did that resulted in a no-kill, since I didn’t bother to ask, but no-killing to attempt to imply a Doctor just doesn’t make sense. Beside the fact that the scum already tried a Doctor-esque role and failed, why would they throw more resources (a Night kill and a body to claim) at it to try to get it to work again? I haven’t seen a situation yet where I think a no-kill is a good move strategically, and I certainly wouldn’t think this is one of them Either way, lynching someone because of their claim just seems silly. Besides that I already knew **MHaye** was scum, his role PM was convincing enough, but it didn’t fit the circumstances very well. Would the scum then, with no evidence for a Doctor, following a failed Doctor claim, then have someone come out and claim backup doctor with, what I would say, is probably a slightly less convincing PM and absolutely no backup evidence? IOW, even though there’s no evidence to backup his claim as a backup doc, there’s also no compelling reason to believe the scum would throw out a claim like that. I think it’s a wash. Lynch him if you think he’s scum, but don’t lynch him because you think his claim is fishy; maybe use it as a tie-breaker, but not as evidence for his lynch, at least without being linked to other things. On Preview: Yeah **NAF** , too bad he doesn’t know; but we can taunt with our perfect knowledge. 🆒 I just hope I didn’t give anything away. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2009, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/390 "2009-01-27T19:15:44Z")
I almost mentioned something about his basic assumptions but figured that would be too helpfull. But sach and Rysto both I think have made one or two assumptions (different assumptions) that are incorrect. ---
**Author:** ![dotchan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9d8465/32.png) [@dotchan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dotchan)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2009, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/391 "2009-01-27T20:30:59Z")
Yay, my first non-lynch related death! 😃 I was _this_ close to unvoting both macey (because I thought “there’s no way even a newbie scum could be THAT stupid, she’d have her scumbuddies screaming at her to shut up and back off from her scummy position posthaste”) AND Blaster Master (because I believed his claim). I had a feeling I shouldn’t have unvoted MHaye, either, because the claim did sound fishy, but I talked myself out of it. :smack: When Natlaw came out vehemently opposing my mass-claim suggestion, my first reaction was “this guy is either a power role or scum”. Wonder how accurate my scumdar is this time… ---
**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2009, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/392 "2009-01-27T20:42:44Z")
> [@dotchan](#): > > Yay, my first non-lynch related death! 😃 > > I was _this_ close to unvoting both macey (because I thought “there’s no way even a newbie scum could be THAT stupid, she’d have her scumbuddies screaming at her to shut up and back off from her scummy position posthaste”) AND Blaster Master (because I believed his claim). I had a feeling I shouldn’t have unvoted MHaye, either, because the claim did sound fishy, but I talked myself out of it. :smack: At least someone bought my claim. Too bad you didn’t, cause the town probably would have had this game in the books by now. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2009, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/393 "2009-01-27T21:03:41Z")
Is it kosher for **dotchan** to be posting here as well as the actual game thread? ---
**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2009, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/394 "2009-01-27T21:13:57Z")
**Natlaw** : > [@](#): > > If we have another block (and only one), we start Day Twelve at LyLo with four players instead of three, giving a bigger chance to lynch town. > Scum would count for 1 + 5x.02, so if town mislynches and scum successfully Night kills, it is 2-2 and a scum win. > So in that case there needs to be another block (can be Night Twelve) or there need to be only four mostly dead remaining after Night Twelve. That means only three one-fifth alive at the start of Night Twelve, in case scum kills an Alpha the following Night. But if **Cookies** was the killer, that might not happen. Umm…rather than worry about block/no-block, why not just have a no-lynch in this case? Rather than waste an pro-town night-action opportunity, forgo a lynch if the night-action doesn’t work as expected. ---
**Author:** ![dotchan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9d8465/32.png) [@dotchan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dotchan)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2009, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/395 "2009-01-27T21:24:06Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > Is it kosher for **dotchan** to be posting here as well as the actual game thread? I’m not spoiled, so I don’t see why not. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2009, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/396 "2009-01-27T21:34:33Z")
It’s unfair to the Scum if dead Townies and spectators can give advice to the Town, filtered through a semi-alive (and confirmed Town) player. ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2009, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/397 "2009-01-27T21:42:46Z")
Sorry **dotchan** , but from the opening post. > [@CatInASuit](#): > > This will be for non-spoilered discussion of the game by anyone and everyone, APART FROM THE PLAYERS STILL PLAYING. > > If you are still playing, you don’t get to join us. As you are not yet dead, this means you too. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2009, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/398 "2009-01-27T23:37:31Z")
I noticed that the new off board game has the same end time as this game so I looked to see how much overlap there is. To my surprise I noticed that Nanook of the North Shore is in both games. Nanook has been super-lurker in this game! If he is so busy that he can’t put in a decent amount of play into this game, I’m confused as to why he signed up for another game on the off-board. Nanook should be lynched. Though I really hope he isn’t hiding scum, because that is just sucky. But I can’t piece together how he could post so little here (under the guise of being busy) and sign up for another game. Meta-game is sorta bad, but really, he should be killed for his lack of participation anyway. ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/399 "2009-01-28T02:50:02Z")
Honestly? Who kills **DOTCHAN**? I’m VERY disappointed in the Scum’s Night actions… If you can’t convince the Town to lynch her, you’re not doing a very good job as scum at ALL… ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/400 "2009-01-30T05:19:43Z")
On an unrelated note, Pede’s game offsite needs a sub. If anyone is interested. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796.md?page=21)