# Evil Dead Mafia Forbidden Thread - The Cabin in the Woods

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [December 18, 2008, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796 "2008-12-18T20:11:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/461 "2009-02-06T12:26:17Z")

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> [@Hal\_Briston](#):
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> And not to toot my own horn, but…  
> TOOT! TOOT! TOOT! 😃

Hal?

I’m sorry, but that was exactly what I said it was in the main thread. A slip of the brain, and nothing else.

If you convicted me on that, you convicted me for the wrong reasons. I demand a reversal on appeal.

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**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/462 "2009-02-06T13:04:25Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> I disagree, it just has to be done well. Talking can be dangerous, but it can also totally shut down the towns ability to get anything done. Imagine 5 peekercpa’s posting nonsense to the game 50 times a day each. It would shut the game down for town. Maybe not a fun way to play if you are a townie, but probalby a winning play for scum.

It’s not fun for Town.

Someone did it in Pede’s offboard game on Day 2, because they were outed as SCUM by the Dawn post. I think there were about 150 posts in the Day thread by this one player alone. Some were funny, some distracting, but 20 or so repostings of the Gettysburg Address? With a different letter eliminated each time?

The word used here for that sort of posting is “spam.”

That’s why I didn’t try and flood the game with rhubarb; I felt it against the Forum rules.

Those of you who haven’t followed the game, it also sheds light on the SCUM Mason issue upthread.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/463 "2009-02-06T13:40:47Z")

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> [@MHaye](#):
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> Sach, I did a search of Hal’s posts after he said that to find out _why_ I thought he was Alpha. You can be sure that if I had found it, it would have been up in large font, followed by a vote for Hal for lying.
> 
> Remember where it is?

It wasn’t. I vanilla town, but **Sach** mistakenly thought I said Alpha somewhere. I didn’t, [I called him on it, and he recanted](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10696145&postcount=214). S’all cool now.

> [@MHaye](#):
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> I’m sorry, but that was exactly what I said it was in the main thread. A slip of the brain, and nothing else.

Huh…well that’s disappointing – your role fit in perfectly with my theory. Ah well…

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/464 "2009-02-06T14:10:13Z")

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> [@MHaye](#):
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> It’s not fun for Town.

That I believe, but if I am scum I don’t know that I would care. I haven’t followed that game (I mean to, but it was already 5 pages strong when I first noticed it and I never caught up) but did help balance it. Pede and I spent a lot of time talking about that mason idea, trying to make it work. How did it work?

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**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/465 "2009-02-06T14:20:45Z")

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> [@JSexton](#):
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> Had a blast! Terrific game.
> 
> Um, no hard feelings, blam? 🙂

Oh, no hard feelings, you did the right thing. But I DID have you, I just wasn’t in a position to garner credibility for my case. ☹

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**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/466 "2009-02-06T14:29:04Z")

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> [@Hal\_Briston](#):
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> It wasn’t. I vanilla town, but **Sach** mistakenly thought I said Alpha somewhere. I didn’t, [I called him on it, and he recanted](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10696145&postcount=214). S’all cool now.

I saw as I continued reading. Thanks.

I didn’t have a very good Day 4, unfortunately.

> [@](#):
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> Huh…well that’s disappointing – your role fit in perfectly with my theory. Ah well…

No problem. Once you get spoiled (I assume you haven’t yet) you’ll see why.

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/467 "2009-02-06T16:52:48Z")

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> [@Hal\_Briston](#):
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> Huh…well that’s disappointing – your role fit in perfectly with my theory. Ah well…

Yep. We also did not know Blaster’s role, contrary to opinion. That really was a case of scum legitimately finding scum through analysis.

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/468 "2009-02-06T16:55:53Z")

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> [@Ro0sh](#):
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> Please Jsexton do what I hope you’re doing…
> 
> The scum have the ability to talk to the town from beyond the grave, why they haven’t been doing that this entire game has been perplexing to me…
> 
> Then again, I know that sometimes JSexton likes to play a game w/o looking at his alignment at all. I hope he didn’t do that for this game (because though that play is great, it sucks as well if you’re a power role or such because you’re putting your team at a disadvantage by not using it).

😃 This was fun. Of course it was all a lie, and I didn’t expect that many people would give it credibility. I was hoping that a few might, though, and sow enough doubt to shift voting momentum at a critical time.

As for the rest of us not using our talking ability? No one would listen to known scum. My gambit was the only way anyone might, and still hardly anyone bought it If we endlessly spammed, then we’d just get ignored. Or Ignored, more likely. I can even see the board moderators stepping in. It’s a dick move.

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**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/469 "2009-02-06T17:51:06Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> That I believe, but if I am scum I don’t know that I would care. I haven’t followed that game (I mean to, but it was already 5 pages strong when I first noticed it and I never caught up) but did help balance it. Pede and I spent a lot of time talking about that mason idea, trying to make it work. How did it work?

Sorry NAF, thought I’d answered it.

The Masons spent some time arguing over when (not whether, but when) they should come clean to the game as a whole. One of the Masons suggested that they would be able to use their power to ID the SCUM Mason Night 1 (incorrectly, I might add). With the vote being two for Day 1 vs one for Day 2, one of the Masons unilaterally outed the controversy, giving everyone a good day or so before the Dusk to hash it over.

One (Town) Mason was lynched and another (also Town) Nightkilled. Since we’d eliminated two (by death) the third stood exposed.

So by Dusk on Day 2, the whole Masonry has been killed off. The fourth casualty was a third party Mad Bomber.

No names, no pack drill.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/470 "2009-02-06T18:13:30Z")

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yowza. I need to read that game. It seems to be blowing up in interestingly unexpected ways.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/471 "2009-02-06T21:29:24Z")

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I am sorry TL, but you have made a couple of really bad choices this game, and right here (below quote) is one of them\*.

> [@Mafia: Evil Dead - DAY/NIGHT NINE](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-nine/484169/190):
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> I did PM Story about Night Nine… but I’m not sure it it’ll will do town any good if I can’t say who I blocked…
> 
> I’m not good at breadcrumbs and scum can pick that up as well as anyone else.
> 
> So here goes:  
> **AH** - I think you’re Town and I’ll trust you and say this:
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> The game on FB - the first ever where you were the mod - I was killed and turned into the Buffybot… I did try to say things without really saying them.
> 
> I have done this the same way toNight

YOU DONT NEED TO BREADCRUMB! If scum don’t kill a vanilla toNight the game is over for them if town lynches \*anyone \*tomorrow. They lose on numbers (2 confirmed vs. one scum in the final three.) Moreover, do you think that their is more than one scum left for them to hand the NK off to? Just say who you plan to block! There is no reason not to!

GAHHHHHH!  
Sometimes…

\*Your failure to protect me, WITH MY DAY ACTION!, at any point was another. All I needed was 2 more Days and the game would have been over.

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**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2009, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/472 "2009-02-07T13:07:25Z")

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> [@Mafia: Evil Dead - DAY/NIGHT NINE](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-nine/484169/190):
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> I did PM Story about Night Nine… but I’m not sure it it’ll will do town any good if I can’t say who I blocked…
> 
> I’m not good at breadcrumbs and scum can pick that up as well as anyone else.
> 
> So here goes:  
> **AH** - I think you’re Town and I’ll trust you and say this:
> 
> The game on FB - the first ever where you were the mod - I was killed and turned into the Buffybot… I did try to say things without really saying them.
> 
> I have done this the same way toNight

Okay I’m new to this… so bear with me. Is this allowed? Seems a little like using out of game means to communicate without Scum being able to see whats being said. Even if the means is from the past. That would be like me planning out ahead of time a bunch of different eventualities and posting them somewhere and then telling a player about that site ahead of time. Then when the time came I could just say “Hey remember that site we worked on? Well it’s number 2.”

No difference, I would just be referring to a different site for information that I am trying to relate. Am I wrong, or is that not what TL is doing here?

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2009, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/473 "2009-02-07T16:11:53Z")

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> [@paulwhoisaghost](#):
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> Okay I’m new to this… so bear with me. Is this allowed? Seems a little like using out of game means to communicate without Scum being able to see whats being said. Even if the means is from the past. That would be like me planning out ahead of time a bunch of different eventualities and posting them somewhere and then telling a player about that site ahead of time. Then when the time came I could just say “Hey remember that site we worked on? Well it’s number 2.”
> 
> No difference, I would just be referring to a different site for information that I am trying to relate. Am I wrong, or is that not what TL is doing here?

I think the difference is in planning to do it ahead of time. That’s obviously way over the line. But trying to mask your statements to a specific person by obliquely referencing past events? I don’t think I’d have a problem with it, as a mod. In this case, it’s about a public event, and determined scum could probably find it and read it too.

Unless, of course, the whole game started to revolve around that tactic. I’d step in at that point and ban it.

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2009, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/474 "2009-02-07T16:49:43Z")

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As \*\*pedescribe \*\*said, does anyone else have a game they want to mod after this one (ok, it’s a bit premature) or would it be possible to have a go?

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2009, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/475 "2009-02-07T17:00:14Z")

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I think that Sach and Pollux both have games that they are getting ready to go up soonish.

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**Author:** ![paulwhoisaghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e5b9ba/32.png) [@paulwhoisaghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulwhoisaghost)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2009, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/476 "2009-02-07T21:53:59Z")

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Ok I see the difference. There is quite a bit of grey area there I guess. Thanks for the reply J

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**Author:** ![dotchan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9d8465/32.png) [@dotchan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dotchan)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2009, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/477 "2009-02-07T23:51:30Z")

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…who is “paulwhoisaghost”? Misplaced answer, or did the Ghost of the Creepy Doll migrate boards, too? :eek:

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/478 "2009-02-08T02:01:48Z")

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I have a game ready. If this one wraps up during the next week, could someone start a signup thread for me? I’ll be on vacation until the 13th. I’m thinking a one week signup period, then allocation of roles. Or Pollux Oil can do his. Whatever works.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/479 "2009-02-08T16:57:47Z")

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> [@brewha](#):
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> I needed enough suspicion from you guys so’s that I wouldn’t have to worry about being night killed.

Oh really? I thought that you claimed that the power you invoked yesterDay would prevent all night-kills?

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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/480 "2009-02-08T22:50:36Z")

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> [@Rysto](#):
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> Oh really? I thought that you claimed that the power you invoked yesterDay would prevent all night-kills?

No, he claimed it would only prevent a kill from Dawn to Dusk. So no Daykill or lynch.

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