# Evil Dead Mafia Forbidden Thread - The Cabin in the Woods **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 18, 2008, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796 "2008-12-18T20:11:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/81 "2009-01-08T21:32:08Z")
Oh, and about mod-kill active players who fail to make a vote for whatever reason–that’s why my Days are long and fixed. There’s ample opportunity to vote. Players may need to adjust their voting technique and probably should considering the penalty for failure. I see nothing inherently wrong about rules (especially ones that affect all players equally) that require players to shift from their usual playstyle. That’s part of the fun of switching up our mods. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/82 "2009-01-08T22:16:25Z")
> [@Ro0sh](#): > > once when I was scum I was vigged because I happened to state a playstyle that apparently was different from my PREVIOUS game’s play style. So the vig got to take credit for killing me and all, but I was just pissed- because he used something out of game to try to kill me- as I do change styles too every so often- so he would have killed me for that even if I were a Townie, as I would have said the same thing if I were town or if I were scum- i just happened to be scum that game. Are you talking about Apocalypse? I didn’t kill you because of a change in playstyle. In that game, **BLaM** got lynched essentially for non-participation. You were a late comer to that bandwagon, and while you talked about how **BLaM** was playing in Apocalypse you never made mention of the fact that you’ve noticed that **BLaM** is constantly changing his style, but you did bring it in a forbidden thread for another game happening concurrently. I killed you because your failure to bring that up in Apocalypse made your vote for **BLaM** seem very opportunistic and lacking in honesty. You may well have voted for **BLaM** anyway had you been Town, but I’m certain that you would have mentioned how **BLaM** is always changing his playstyle. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/83 "2009-01-08T22:17:16Z")
Well, at least someone has pointed out that Blaster Master’s strategy is anti-Town. Blaster Master says its not, but of course he would say that. Anything that obfuscates motivation is by definition anti-Town. Kill him! I don’t even know if he is Town or not, but he needs to be dead. This intentional random playstyle strategy needs to be nipped in the bud. But it looks like they will have NAF investigate instead, which is probably for the best, but really really irks me. I don’t want this strategy to be validated. It would be the death of the game actually. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/84 "2009-01-08T22:47:13Z")
> [@Mafia: Evil Dead - DAY/NIGHT FOUR](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/92): > > My towniness goes without saying. And, in fact, I’d hoped that you may have considered investigating me at an earlier point, but it is unfortunate that you did not. :smack: He’s avoiding making a definite statement about his alignment. He needs to be lynched, pronto. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/85 "2009-01-08T22:55:25Z")
Not to mention way too many investigators. We have: Thing Fish, dead-confirmed Town investigator NAF, claimed investigator of truths Blaster Master, claimed investigator of some sort. NAF’s statement of belief of Blaster Master intrigues me. I wonder why he feels this way. I’m guessing that something Blaster Master said reminds NAF of his own role so that is why he wants to believe him. I still want Blaster Master dead at this point. Town should be especially cautious of investigator claims that occur under the threat of lynch. ETA: And now he’s just being annoying. Everyone knows he needs to just come out and state “I am town” but he won’t do it. Gah! What’s super-stupid is he can’t wiggle out of it. Everyone will press him to make the statement and if he doesn’t they will lynch him. Just a waste of time. Town/scum, doesn’t matter, he’s wasting everyones time. ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/86 "2009-01-08T23:22:29Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > You may well have voted for **BLaM** anyway had you been Town, but I’m certain that you would have mentioned how **BLaM** is always changing his playstyle. ah yes, that’s the one. I think I’m just bitter about that kill, because it was a GREAT move by you, and had you not done it, I probably would be gloating about that game… But yeah, I just never tend to think about that sort of a thing, as I keep every game separate from each other- so if it didn’t cross my mind in Apocalypse as a scum, it probably didn’t cross my mind as if I were Town either especially if I had mentioned it elsewhere. That was a great game for you btw, congrats on your SK win there. Man… i really should get back into playing mafia, but I have no free time =( ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/87 "2009-01-09T00:37:36Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > **peeker** , are you dead or only mostly dead? Because if you’re only mostly dead, you really should use the situation to your advantage and post more incomprehensibly than usual in the game thread. No Townie motivation to not to. 😃 Well I never got any notification that I was partially dead, so in the grave I stay, voiceless. I really did have a plan, that I actually ran by **story** to create as much chaos as possible. Unfortunately RL stuff occurred. It could have been really good for me. I won’t say anything more since it would spoil the game and I alread fucked it up enough. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/88 "2009-01-09T03:12:52Z")
And I ask this question honestly. Does the way way I play this game seriously mess it up? I kind of like obscure literature, philosophical and historical oddities. C’mon **pleo** let me have it. I like intertwining randomness into predictability. Right now town, would have already sewed it up if I were still alive. Is it is supposed to be played one way or just your way? ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/89 "2009-01-09T03:29:02Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > And I ask this question honestly. Does the way way I play this game seriously mess it up? > > I kind of like obscure literature, philosophical and historical oddities. > > C’mon **pleo** let me have it. I like intertwining randomness into predictability. > > Right now town, would have already sewed it up if I were still alive. > > Is it is supposed to be played one way or just your way? Well, the way you play seriously messes me up. When you’re in full obscure mode, it’s basically impossible for me to understand what you say. So I have little choice but to assume the worst. But one vote doesn’t lynch a player. And if you don’t get lynched for it, do as you will. This game, you interspersed enough signal within the noise (at least while I was alive) that I didn’t have a strong complaint against you. You would have heard about it. 🙂 For me, as long I can get something non-fluff out of a player, I don’t have any complaints about lack of content. So expect me to complain about you and vote for you, but that’s just me trying to catch scum. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/90 "2009-01-09T06:21:56Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > And I ask this question honestly. Does the way way I play this game seriously mess it up? If it ever bothered me, I’d just have you killed.\* :shrug: So if you’re alive in the game, you’re doing just fine. I like entertaining players. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/91 "2009-01-09T15:54:34Z")
> [@Mafia: Evil Dead - DAY/NIGHT FOUR](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/127): > > And, if my intentions were to cause her harm, considering that she’s a pretty unlikely doctor target last night, she probably would have turned up dead Today, no? > [@Mafia: Evil Dead - DAY/NIGHT FOUR](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/142): > > So, I targeted her with a nightmare with the intention that she would die from a heart attack. Uh, Blaster Master doesn’t sound sufficiently consistent to me. I’m really not liking his position here. Early on he implies that he did not intend to kill Cookies, then he outright says he tried to kill Cookies. The weird thing is, this makes me less wanting to kill Blaster Master. As scum, if he were trying to lie his way out of things he would just stick to his lie. As Town, he might have tried to wiggle a bit at first and not outright say he tried to kill Cookies, but then come clean and tell the truth 'cause that’s what town should do. However… > [@Mafia: Evil Dead - DAY/NIGHT FOUR](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/142): > > I have the ability to slip into peoples dreams and I did so last Night to **Cookies**. The way my power works is that I don’t have a specific power, but a series of one-shot abilities. Some of them are similar and differ only in color, some of them are different. But, yes, I slipped into her dream and I caused her to have a nightmare. I think someone earlier noted that the existence of Predator opens the possibility of other Non-Evil Dead characters in the game. I think someone even specifically mentioned Freddy Krueger. Blaster Master’s power description certainly sounds like Freddy Krueger. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/92 "2009-01-09T16:08:14Z")
> [@Mafia: Evil Dead - DAY/NIGHT FOUR](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/160): > > I think Blam is a PFK called Freddie Kruger who has the power to affect people’s dreams and has to be killed by the townspeople to fulfill his win-condition. Meh. Personally I don’t like Jester roles. I especially don’t like scum Jester roles. The Town should not be punished for finding scum. The traditional Jester role is fairly neutral, the only punishment to the town is that they waste a lynch on the jester. Recently we’ve seen a beefing up of the jester role into scum/jesters which, in my opinion, is a crazy game design. Punishing town for doing the right thing just makes the game more random and less playable. Potential jester status is not a good reason to not to lynch someone. If he is a scum jester, then what else are going to do? You have to lynch him eventually right? If he’s a town jester, then little harm is done. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/93 "2009-01-09T16:29:42Z")
> [@Mafia: Evil Dead - DAY/NIGHT FOUR](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/167): > > First off, my claim: I am vanilla town. This is the kind of stuff that would drive me bonkers. As it is, I expect it to be driving NAF bonkers as well. What part of NAF’s explicit plea for NO more vanilla claims did he not understand. If he is scum, then I guess good job, but if Hal is town he’s cut down the power role pool even more. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/94 "2009-01-09T16:33:37Z")
> [@Mafia: Evil Dead - DAY/NIGHT FOUR](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-evil-dead-day-night-four/480155/171): > > His first quote said deadites don’t have dreams. Either cookies is definitely town (which fits into my idea that the power Ash is a deadite) because she had a dream, or she’s a deadite making up a dream to get BlaM. Whoa. If deadites don’t have dreams then, how can Blaster Master justify taking a shot at Cookies? Blaster Master has said he has no effect on Deadites yet he can KILL. PFK if I ever saw one. Kill him. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/95 "2009-01-09T16:42:48Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > Meh. Personally I don’t like Jester roles. I especially don’t like scum Jester roles. The Town should not be punished for finding scum. The traditional Jester role is fairly neutral, the only punishment to the town is that they waste a lynch on the jester. Recently we’ve seen a beefing up of the jester role into scum/jesters which, in my opinion, is a crazy game design. Punishing town for doing the right thing just makes the game more random and less playable. Potential jester status is not a good reason to not to lynch someone. If he is a scum jester, then what else are going to do? You have to lynch him eventually right? If he’s a town jester, then little harm is done. Unless Scum are equally penalized (above that of a teammate being eliminated) for a Scummy Jester being lynched, I agree it’s an unfair mechanism. If I were still in the game, I’d be pushing for a **BlaM** lynch. His play this game has not been helpful to the Town. His statements being all over the place may be a Townie tell, but it’s poor play. Unless he offers some compelling reason for the Town to not lynch him, say a full reveal and a promise of some useful information, he needs to hang. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/96 "2009-01-09T16:44:36Z")
I take that back. Sort of. It still doesn’t make sense for Blaster Master to claim he tried to kill Cookies. If he’s anti-Town he would have made up something far less damning. Why say he tried to kill someone who ended up living? There is just no reason to take on that extra burden. On the other hand, is role shows he can kill humans and PFK, but not Deadites since Deadites don’t dream. Therefore taking a shot at Cookies should either kill a townie, kill a PFK, or have no effect. That’s not pro-town. On the other other hand, storyteller’s role PM could just be sloppy and didn’t see the logical loophole. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/97 "2009-01-09T16:48:10Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > Unless Scum are equally penalized (above that of a teammate being eliminated) for a Scummy Jester being lynched, I agree it’s an unfair mechanism. Yes, that is correct and more inline with my meaning. I’m more against the punishing of the town for lynching a scum jester via reward to scum. If it is just a win condition on the jester role that doesn’t affect the town (but is balanced for the hapless scum) then I’d be okay with it. Just don’t punish players for doing the right thing! ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/98 "2009-01-09T16:49:53Z")
NAF is my hero. If he turns up scum I’ll be really, really pissed. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/99 "2009-01-09T18:27:10Z")
I don’t think I’ll ever understand Blaster Master. His logic is so illogical! How does sending a message to another player prove anything? All it proves is that he can send a message to another player! It says nothing about alignment or maliciousness. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796/100 "2009-01-09T19:01:57Z")
Is there something about roles with a list of one-shot powers that make the players irrational? **BlaM** isn’t usually like this. I guess I’m doubting his scumminess, but I still think he should by lynched. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-forbidden-thread-the-cabin-in-the-woods/477796.md?page=6)