# Evil Dead Mafia II - Teaser and Sign-Ups \[Game On!\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 29, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493 "2010-09-29T17:35:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1981 "2010-10-21T15:50:21Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> I’ll admit it was a bad move to say Telcontar’s behavior reminds me of behavior I’ve seen before and then not be able to back it up with evidence.
> 
> However, that was not my entire case. I also agreed with everything NAF had said about Telcontar in the below post:
> 
> [NAF’s case is post 1010.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13004919&postcount=1010)

:waits for **Mahaloth** to post: “neta: whoops I guess it was **normal** ”

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1982 "2010-10-21T15:57:36Z")

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:quietly seethes about people continually confusing me with other players:

It’s not like anyone else has numbers in their name. Sheesh.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1983 "2010-10-21T16:06:27Z")

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It’s the “N.”

It was Normal Phase, folks. My bad.

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**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1984 "2010-10-21T16:12:46Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> I’ll admit it was a bad move to say Telcontar’s behavior reminds me of behavior I’ve seen before and then not be able to back it up with evidence.
> 
> However, that was not my entire case. I also agreed with everything NAF had said about Telcontar in the below post:
> 
> [NAF’s case is post 1010.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13004919&postcount=1010)

This is your vote post.

> [@Mahaloth](#):
>
> OK, I"m caught up.
> 
> 1. Did Oy explain to us why she claimed? I didn’t see that one coming. Was it to draw protection?
> 
> 2. I think Oredigger should have placed a real vote.
> 
> 3. I think Telcontar is scummy mcscumbag and was stunned to see that NAF picked up on the exact things I did. Telcontar’s entire argument sounds like the kind of one I’ve seen him collaborate on with scum in other games. Since they have Day-talking in this game, I think he has worked up a case he can present as reasonable against NAF.
> 
> Unvote Oredigger
> 
> **Vote Telcontar**

I don’t see any mention of\*\* Normal\*\*'s case. Was that in another post?

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1985 "2010-10-21T16:28:01Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
>
> I’ll admit it was a bad move to say Telcontar’s behavior reminds me of behavior I’ve seen before and then not be able to back it up with evidence.
> 
> However, that was not my entire case. I also agreed with everything NAF had said about Telcontar in the below post:
> 
> [NAF’s case is post 1010.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13004919&postcount=1010)

That’s a post by Normal. At this point, I’d ask you for 2 things because I’m at work and unable to do any extensive searching.

1. Can you summarize the points that Normal made with which you agree?
2. Can you show me where you mentioned Normal’s case while making your own case against Telcontar?

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1986 "2010-10-21T16:31:37Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> 1. I think Telcontar is scummy mcscumbag and was stunned to see that NAF picked up on the exact things I did. Telcontar’s entire argument sounds like the kind of one I’ve seen him collaborate on with scum in other games. Since they have Day-talking in this game, I think he has worked up a case he can present as reasonable against NAF.

This is your case against Telcontar. It brings up further questions.

1. You mention that NAF picked up on the things that you had. Did you mean Normal?
2. Are we to completely disregard the “sounds like the kind of one I’ve seen him collaborate on with scum in other games” part?
3. What are the exact things that you picked up on? You didn’t mention any

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1987 "2010-10-21T17:01:14Z")

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Mahaloth clearly meant me, as NAF hadn’t made a case, and I had. Not to toot my own horn, or anything, but …

I thought of pointing it out when Mahaloth starting drawing attention, but I didn’t want to push my incredibly obvious towniness too hard, lest the scum think I’m just trying to draw a night kill and don’t actually attack me. Or maybe it was lest they think I’m trying too hard to psych them out of attacking me, and actually send me to my lonely grave.

Nobody should read the above paragraph. I need lunch.

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1988 "2010-10-21T17:25:36Z")

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**EXT - THE CORNFIELD**

_The stalks part. From within walks a strange being, abnormally tall, superficially humanoid, but distinctly odd in manner and bearing. When it speaks, it addresses the camera directly… and it speaks in all capital letters._

UATU  
I AM UATU, THE WATCHER. FOR CENTURIES, UATU’S PEOPLE HAVE OVERSEEN THE DOINGS OF THE MANY RACES OF THE COSMOS, NEVER INTERFERING, SIMPLY OBSERVING. UATU HAS BEEN ASKED BY THE NARRATOR OF THIS GAME TO FILL IN, AS THE NARRATOR HAS A MEETING IN A FEW MINUTES AND HAS LIMITED TIME FOR COLOR CREATION. THUS UATU WILL CUT TO THE CHASE.

TELCONTAR HAS BEEN LYNCHED. HE WAS A DEADITE. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

_UATU fades from view, never to be seen again._

* * *

**Telcontar** , The Demon Mook, who was Scum (Goon), has been lynched.

Night Three begins now, and will end in roughly 48 hours, at 1:30PM EST on Saturday (give or take). Please submit all Night actions by this time.

Day end PMs will be sent in the next few minutes, but I will not be around after that to answer questions until later this evening.

Have fun!

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**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1989 "2010-10-21T17:48:14Z")

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I like this game 🙂

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1990 "2010-10-21T18:40:29Z")

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I’ve been debating as to whether or not to do this, seeing as I generally hate unprovoked claims, but I figure this may explain A WHOLE FUCKING LOT, so here we go.

I’ll put everything behind spoilers, because it gets long. I’m also not putting the original formatting back in, because I’m lazy.

[spoiler]Welcome to the game; you are the Librarian

ALIGNMENT: Town  
GENERIC: Vanilla  
WIN CONDITION: All Scum and malicious third-parties (if any) have been vanquished.

BACKGROUND:

You’ve been here before. Blood soaks the stones of the streets, the dead rise from their graves, and only one can stand against the vampires - er, demons. And amidst the chaos, a lone librarian, using only his crack research skills and disarming British accent, serves as mentor, advisor, and sage.

You’ve battled your demons (tall and scaly, not alcoholic), saved the world a few times, and now you are taking a well earned vacation. You are not getting involved in yet another apocalypse. Absolutely, no way, not this time. No more impossible choices, witches, werewolves, or skinny blondes dying and coming back from the dead over and over and over. You are strictly providing a little bit of brain power, nothing else.

Of course, you do know of one spell. You haven’t done the reading well enough to know exactly what it does, though, and frankly, you have no business interfering in that way. Those days are over.

POWERS:

1. At the moment, you have no special powers, abilities, or information. However, your sharp analytical skills are likely to come in very handy. Each Night, you will identify (via PM to the moderator) one player that you believe to be non-Town. You may choose the same player on more than one Night. Please note that this ability is not an active power and can not be blocked or in any other way affected by the power(s) of other players.

If, your designated suspect is lynched on the Day following your designation of him/her as your primary suspect, with your vote among the lynching votes, and if (s)he is non-Town, you will gain sufficient confidence in your own competence to attempt the single spell to which you have access.[/spoiler]

So the first Night I picked **Chip** , who promptly turned up dead. Last Night I picked **Telcontar** , figuring it looked like **Idle** ’s case against him might pick up steam. My Schroedinger’s Power Role kicked in at that point, as I knew I was voting for a Deadite, and was just hoping the Day would end without some Town-aligned Daykill Vig ruining it for me, but being unable to say anything out of the fear that there was a Scum-Aligned Daykiller who could screw it all up. So hey, now I have a spell. Awesome, amirite?

Here’s what Story sent me just now:

[spoiler] You have succeeded in identifying a Demon, and casting a vote in support of the death of same. You may attempt to cast your spell, if you wish.

Unfortunately, you don’t know what it will do. You know only that it is certain to be pro-Town, and that it will not result in your death or in the death of any pro-Town player.

Please let me know if you wish to cast your spell toNight. If you choose not to do so, you may cast it on any future Night.[/spoiler]

Nothing is EVER EASY, is it?

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1991 "2010-10-21T18:41:52Z")

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NETA: My completely uneducated guess is that it has SOMETHING to do with the Book, based on my rolename.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1992 "2010-10-21T18:43:41Z")

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
>
> I’ve been debating as to whether or not to do this, seeing as I generally hate unprovoked claims, but I figure this may explain A WHOLE FUCKING LOT, so here we go.
> 
> I’ll put everything behind spoilers, because it gets long. I’m also not putting the original formatting back in, because I’m lazy.
> 
> [spoiler]Welcome to the game; you are the Librarian
> 
> ALIGNMENT: Town  
> GENERIC: Vanilla  
> WIN CONDITION: All Scum and malicious third-parties (if any) have been vanquished.
> 
> BACKGROUND:
> 
> You’ve been here before. Blood soaks the stones of the streets, the dead rise from their graves, and only one can stand against the vampires - er, demons. And amidst the chaos, a lone librarian, using only his crack research skills and disarming British accent, serves as mentor, advisor, and sage.
> 
> You’ve battled your demons (tall and scaly, not alcoholic), saved the world a few times, and now you are taking a well earned vacation. You are not getting involved in yet another apocalypse. Absolutely, no way, not this time. No more impossible choices, witches, werewolves, or skinny blondes dying and coming back from the dead over and over and over. You are strictly providing a little bit of brain power, nothing else.
> 
> Of course, you do know of one spell. You haven’t done the reading well enough to know exactly what it does, though, and frankly, you have no business interfering in that way. Those days are over.
> 
> POWERS:
> 
> 1. At the moment, you have no special powers, abilities, or information. However, your sharp analytical skills are likely to come in very handy. Each Night, you will identify (via PM to the moderator) one player that you believe to be non-Town. You may choose the same player on more than one Night. Please note that this ability is not an active power and can not be blocked or in any other way affected by the power(s) of other players.
> 
> If, your designated suspect is lynched on the Day following your designation of him/her as your primary suspect, with your vote among the lynching votes, and if (s)he is non-Town, you will gain sufficient confidence in your own competence to attempt the single spell to which you have access.[/spoiler]
> 
> So the first Night I picked **Chip** , who promptly turned up dead. Last Night I picked **Telcontar** , figuring it looked like **Idle** ’s case against him might pick up steam. My Schroedinger’s Power Role kicked in at that point, as I knew I was voting for a Deadite, and was just hoping the Day would end without some Town-aligned Daykill Vig ruining it for me, but being unable to say anything out of the fear that there was a Scum-Aligned Daykiller who could screw it all up. So hey, now I have a spell. Awesome, amirite?
> 
> Here’s what Story sent me just now:
> 
> [spoiler] You have succeeded in identifying a Demon, and casting a vote in support of the death of same. You may attempt to cast your spell, if you wish.
> 
> Unfortunately, you don’t know what it will do. You know only that it is certain to be pro-Town, and that it will not result in your death or in the death of any pro-Town player.
> 
> Please let me know if you wish to cast your spell toNight. If you choose not to do so, you may cast it on any future Night.[/spoiler]
> 
> Nothing is EVER EASY, is it?

Cast that spell. You might not get another chance.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1993 "2010-10-21T18:49:29Z")

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That was where I was leaning, **NAF**.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1994 "2010-10-21T18:51:13Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
>
> Cast that spell. You might not get another chance.

What he said – everything else about you is now out there, might as well go all-out.

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1995 "2010-10-21T18:51:54Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
>
> Cast that spell. You might not get another chance.

It’s not that black and white. She may want to wait to see who else takes a powder toNight. That’ll give her more info, and she’ll operate from a stronger position.

Or not. What do I know?

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1996 "2010-10-21T18:56:02Z")

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> [@Oy](#):
>
> It’s not that black and white. She may want to wait to see who else takes a powder toNight. That’ll give her more info, and she’ll operate from a stronger position.
> 
> Or not. What do I know?

Or she could be dead in the morning. Story has told us that all actions go through unless specifically blocked (or something to that effect. It was more convoluted when he said it, but that’s really what it boils down to). DB has said that she has an unequivocally pro town power that she can use once, and she has now told scum about it. This puts something of a target on her back.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1997 "2010-10-21T18:57:16Z")

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Damn, hit submit accidentally.

Anyway. This all goes to say that, if she doesn’t use it toNight there is a good chance she will never get to use it, and there is no reason she shouldn’t use it as story has told her that it is safe for town.

Who she uses it on is tricky, but it almost doesn’t matter.

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1998 "2010-10-21T19:03:47Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
>
> Damn, hit submit accidentally.
> 
> Anyway. This all goes to say that, if she doesn’t use it toNight there is a good chance she will never get to use it, and there is no reason she shouldn’t use it as story has told her that it is safe for town.
> 
> Who she uses it on is tricky, but it almost doesn’t matter.

Well, of course, it’s her call.

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**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/1999 "2010-10-21T19:04:32Z")

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Giles? Is that you?

Yes it would make sense that a librarian would have some powers over a book. What doesn’t make sense is why you’d come forward with it now. You’re in no danger of lynch, but since your spell is completely pro-town, you’ve probably put a bullseye on your back for the deadites. I don’t know if your spell will work if you get killed tonight, but it seems an unnecessary risk.

I’m all for you casting the spell, but I don’t know why you didn’t do it and explain the results tomoRrow. Am I missing something?

On preview… yeah what NAF said.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2000 "2010-10-21T19:20:59Z")

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Seems to me that this is a perfect call to make. Assuming **Drain** is on the level and she casts her spell, here’s what we (scum included) know:

1. Something pro-town will happen tonight.
2. Tomorrow, **Drain** will be an expendable vanilla townie.

Now the scum get to play a guessing game as to what the pro-town thing will be – if it turns out to be info that **Drain** will receive, then she’ll be a wise scum target. If it’s…well, pretty much anything else, then they wasted a nightkill on a vanilla that might’ve been used to hit a town power role.

Hell with it…let 'em sweat the results.

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