# Evil Dead Mafia II - Teaser and Sign-Ups \[Game On!\]

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 29, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493 "2010-09-29T17:35:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2201 "2010-10-25T15:15:46Z")

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I absolutely agree that it was a good job **Peeker** was lynched.

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**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2202 "2010-10-25T15:23:00Z")

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> [@Mrs\_McGinty](#):
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> If it was meant to be distancing tactics, I could easily have backed off after the opening exchanges. But I didn’t stop chasing him until I’d drawn attention back onto his comment about the book, in light of NAF’s revelation about having lost it, and everyone started piling onto the bandwagon.
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> After that, the case was made, and he offered nothing in the way of a defence. Job done.

You are doing yourself \*way \*too much credit.

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**Author:** ![Mrs\_McGinty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6bbea6/32.png) [@Mrs\_McGinty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs_McGinty)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2203 "2010-10-25T15:44:34Z")

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> [@Stanislaus](#):
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> You are doing yourself \*way \*too much credit.

Sorry, I didn’t mean it to sound like I was responsible for getting peeker lynched. I realise that the much more effective case against him was made by others, especially NSC Diver. But I did call him correctly, and I did try to get him lynched. How on earth that makes me a suspect, I cannot begin to fathom.

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2204 "2010-10-25T16:04:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Mrs McGinty]  
How on earth that makes me a suspect, I cannot begin to fathom  
[/QUOTE]  
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I can paint a possible scenario: **Peeker** goes on and on about you (and only you) as a suspect. No one else is suspecting you at all. You go on and on about **Peeker** , and no one else is suspecting him at all. Peeker has a brain fart, and says something funky about **NAF** and the book - not a slip, just a brain fart, no actual event on the Scum Board reflected. You call him out for it (still not much general interest in **Peeker** as Scum). Then, some time later, people really get to noticing **Peeker**. You’ve shown an interest in him all along, so you are trapped voting for him and after all, you get credit for early insight into **Peeker**.

But you were interested in **Peeker** way before there was any case on him or any reason to have a case on him. If in fact his slip was not a slip at all, but a not atypical **Peeker** brain fart, then **Peeker** ’s lynch was based really on his own refusal to respond to the accusations.

I’m not saying you are Scum, **Mrs McGinty**. I’m just saying that you get no credit with me for **Peeker** ’s lynch, and that your earlier interest in him is _plausible_ as a Scum maneuver in collaboration with **Peeker** himself. Not definite, just plausible.

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**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2205 "2010-10-25T16:20:05Z")

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Yeah. The whole point of bussing is to enable Scum to say “But I’d be crazy to lead a charge on my own team-mate!” so the defence of “I couldn’t be bussing, because I’d be crazy to lead a charge on my own team-mate!” doesn’t really apply.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2206 "2010-10-25T16:25:37Z")

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> [@Oy](#):
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> .  
> I can paint a possible scenario: **Peeker** goes on and on about you (and only you) as a suspect. No one else is suspecting you at all. You go on and on about **Peeker** , and no one else is suspecting him at all. Peeker has a brain fart, and says something funky about **NAF** and the book - not a slip, just a brain fart, no actual event on the Scum Board reflected. You call him out for it (still not much general interest in **Peeker** as Scum). Then, some time later, people really get to noticing **Peeker**. You’ve shown an interest in him all along, so you are trapped voting for him and after all, you get credit for early insight into **Peeker**.
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> But you were interested in **Peeker** way before there was any case on him or any reason to have a case on him. If in fact his slip was not a slip at all, but a not atypical **Peeker** brain fart, then **Peeker** ’s lynch was based really on his own refusal to respond to the accusations.
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> I’m not saying you are Scum, **Mrs McGinty**. I’m just saying that you get no credit with me for **Peeker** ’s lynch, and that your earlier interest in him is _plausible_ as a Scum maneuver in collaboration with **Peeker** himself. Not definite, just plausible.

This is certainly plausible, especially considering that the cases both peeker and McGinty were making were unlikely to gather sufficient momentum to result ina lynch.

Cartainly a tactic that’s been employed by Scumbuddies in previous games.

However, it’s not enough to make a case against McGinty for it. Basicaklly, I see it as a null tell. A Scum McGinty could have done this, but a Town MGinty could also have been making an honest case against peeker.

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2207 "2010-10-25T16:29:49Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> Cartainly a tactic that’s been employed by Scumbuddies in previous games.  
> However, it’s not enough to make a case against McGinty for it. Basicaklly, I see it as a null tell. A Scum McGinty could have done this, but a Town MGinty could also have been making an honest case against peeker.

Which is why I said plausible, not definite, and I am voting for **Suburban**.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2208 "2010-10-25T16:45:05Z")

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PM I just got from **story** :

> [@](#):
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> What spell? You don’t remember anything about any spell.
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> (In simple game terms, your spell erased everything that happened since Dusk of the previous Day, including its own existence).

The long and the short of it is that if any of you attempted to use a one-shot ability last Night (like **Oy!** passing along an item, for example), you should still have that ability to use.

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**Author:** ![Mrs\_McGinty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6bbea6/32.png) [@Mrs\_McGinty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs_McGinty)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2209 "2010-10-25T16:54:35Z")

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Man, I give up. The view of me is clearly as either a hapless idiot, or a hapless scummy idiot. I see no point in trying to contribute in any meaningful way, since whatever I say leads people to think the opposite. From now on, I’ll just join whatever convenient bandwagon comes along, and otherwise keep my mouth shut.

God, I hate being a noob.

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2210 "2010-10-25T17:08:11Z")

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> [@Mrs\_McGinty](#):
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> Man, I give up. The view of me is clearly as either a hapless idiot, or a hapless scummy idiot. I see no point in trying to contribute in any meaningful way, since whatever I say leads people to think the opposite. From now on, I’ll just join whatever convenient bandwagon comes along, and otherwise keep my mouth shut.
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> God, I hate being a noob.

Dude, you have zero, count 'em, zero votes on you right now. No one has said anything about you except that you are not off the hook for being Scum. Welcome to the club; we don’t have a single confirmed living Townie yet (we have several dead ones).

[QUOTE=Drain Bead]  
The long and the short of it is that if any of you attempted to use a one-shot ability last Night (like Oy! passing along an item, for example), you should still have that ability to use.  
[/QUOTE]

Well, whatever activity I tried last Night, if in fact I tried anything, seems not to have gone through and I do not seem to be down any items from the Day before.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2211 "2010-10-25T17:13:45Z")

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> [@Mrs\_McGinty](#):
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> Man, I give up. The view of me is clearly as either a hapless idiot, or a hapless scummy idiot. I see no point in trying to contribute in any meaningful way, since whatever I say leads people to think the opposite. From now on, I’ll just join whatever convenient bandwagon comes along, and otherwise keep my mouth shut.
> 
> God, I hate being a noob.

Oh, I feel I must apologize. I didn’t realize it was you.

I had forgotten that you are clever and insightful and never make any mistakes. I should have remained humbled when in your presence and never thought to questio your motives or even indirectly imply that you could do something that wasn’t perfect.

Can you forgive me? If not, I just may feel compelled to do something rash and have myself modkilled

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**Author:** ![Mrs\_McGinty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6bbea6/32.png) [@Mrs\_McGinty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs_McGinty)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2212 "2010-10-25T17:19:30Z")

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> [@Oy](#):
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> Dude, you have zero, count 'em, zero votes on you right now. No one has said anything about you except that you are not off the hook for being Scum. Welcome to the club; we don’t have a single confirmed living Townie yet (we have several dead ones).

I’m well aware that I’m not confirmed town. But once again the supposed ‘case’ against me is utter crap, and I’m getting sick of pointing that out. I’d actually prefer it if people would cast their votes against me, rather than just smudging me with the same tired nonsense. At least that would show a bit of stomach for the job at hand.

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**Author:** ![Mrs\_McGinty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6bbea6/32.png) [@Mrs\_McGinty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs_McGinty)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2213 "2010-10-25T17:27:14Z")

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So much for this place being noob-friendly. Roman got dogpiled on the first day over some weak shit, and I can’t say anything but it catches me scorn.

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2214 "2010-10-25T17:30:38Z")

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So now we’re only allowed to see a single suspicious person at a time? I have a vote on **Suburban**.

In post #2199, I described how I’d gone over the entire thread. I mentioned several people whom I felt to not be Scum, a person I found somewhat suspicious (you), and a person I planned to vote for as most suspicious. That wasn’t smudging, at least not to my mind.

Many things may change between now and toMorrow Night. Hell, things may change between now and toNight. But your reaction to my mild suspicion is not helping you in my mind.

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2215 "2010-10-25T17:34:15Z")

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> [@Mrs\_McGinty](#):
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> So much for this place being noob-friendly. Roman got dogpiled on the first day over some weak shit, and I can’t say anything but it catches me scorn.

And, frankly, I don’t appreciate the suggestion that we are inhospitable because we found Roman suspicious for stating _there were four Scum out of the gate_ or for noticing things that may or may not be suspicious about you.

I personally haven’t played with any of these people, and a few I’ve never heard of at all. You’re no more a newbie than I am. This has nothing to with your newbie status here, and I’m a bit offended that you should claim it is.

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2216 "2010-10-25T17:36:03Z")

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> [@Oy](#):
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> This has nothing to with your newbie status here, and I’m a bit offended that you should claim it is.

NETA: This is on the chance that you really mean it, and aren’t scrabbling frantically to deflect suspicion.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2217 "2010-10-25T17:39:36Z")

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> [@Mrs\_McGinty](#):
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> I’m well aware that I’m not confirmed town. But once again the supposed ‘case’ against me is utter crap, and I’m getting sick of pointing that out. I’d actually prefer it if people would cast their votes against me, rather than just smudging me with the same tired nonsense. At least that would show a bit of stomach for the job at hand.

OK

**vote McGinty**

But you know, not a single person besides me has smudged you Today.

You sound a little bit like Telcontar did on Day 2 when he completely ‘overreacted’ to Idle’s suspicion on him. Of course, in that case it wasn’t really an overreaction, was it?

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2218 "2010-10-25T18:13:53Z")

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> [@Mrs\_McGinty](#):
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> So much for this place being noob-friendly. Roman got dogpiled on the first day over some weak shit, and I can’t say anything but it catches me scorn.

But you’ve made it quite clear you aren’t a noob at Mafia, just a new player on this board. There’s a big difference.

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**Author:** ![Mrs\_McGinty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6bbea6/32.png) [@Mrs\_McGinty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs_McGinty)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2219 "2010-10-25T18:25:08Z")

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> [@USCDiver](#):
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> But you’ve made it quite clear you aren’t a noob at Mafia, just a new player on this board. There’s a big difference.

In that case, it’s better to be seen as a total noob. Because I’ve been called out on pretty much every single thing I’ve said and done since the game began, and not once has anybody given a half-decent reason for making me a suspect.

So easy is it to divert attention onto my sorry arse, that Suburban actually now feels confident enough to cast his vote against me, perhaps sensing that he might duck the lynch himself if I can be pushed towards the gallows instead.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2220 "2010-10-25T18:27:21Z")

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> [@Mrs\_McGinty](#):
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> In that case, it’s better to be seen as a total noob. Because I’ve been called out on pretty much every single thing I’ve said and done since the game began, and not once has anybody given a half-decent reason for making me a suspect.
> 
> So easy is it to divert attention onto my sorry arse, that Suburban actually now feels confident enough to cast his vote against me, perhaps sensing that he might duck the lynch himself if I can be pushed towards the gallows instead.

:dubious:

I don’t see it. How have you been called out on everything you have done since the game began? Other than your lack of participation yesterDay and the tiff you had with Peeker, and now this…I don’t know what you are talking about.

Please explain more fully. Quoted examples would be nice.

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