# Evil Dead Mafia II - Teaser and Sign-Ups \[Game On!\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 29, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493 "2010-09-29T17:35:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/221 "2010-10-03T15:35:24Z")

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> [@Romanic](#):
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> My point is that mafia players are trying to find good reasons to vote, and NETA is giving them one. In a perfect world, no townie would ever edit their posts, but this isn’t a perfect world. If we go by this, the mafia will get an easy pass for many votes unless we’re all good townies and nobody ever edit their posts, which I guess is reasonable, but I think it will happen anyway, for various reasons.

We can make this world more perfect by not allowing Townies to edit.

I think that’s the point some people are making.

If you make a coding error, just copy/paste it, fix it, and post it again.

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**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/222 "2010-10-03T15:37:17Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> Doesn’t that only send you the first post that you haven’t seen? I don’t get an email for every single post, just 1 email with the first post since the last time I entered the thread.
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> I guess what I mean is: I was in Chicago for my dad’s 80th birthday all day yesterday, and when I logged in this morning, I only had 1 email telling me that there were posts to this thread despite how much ya’ll have said.

Yes, that’s correct. The board sends an e-mail the _first_ time a subscribed thread is updated since you visited any forum on the board.

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**Author:** ![lilflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecccb3/32.png) [@lilflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lilflower)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/223 "2010-10-03T15:58:49Z")

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> [@Romanic](#):
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> > [@Astral\_Rejection](#):
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> > A no-edit policy does not help scum. If a townie has made a mistake, they can clarify in future posts. They do not have additional information to accidentally let slip. Their mistakes will typically be grammar or spelling. If they’ve seriously screwed up their case on someone, I find it doubtful they’d realize within the 5 minute editing window, and I don’t want people substantially changing the content of their posts anyway.
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> I don’t understand, you were saying that NETA should be enforced and now you say that a townie can clarify his mistake in future posts? If a townie can do it, a scum can do it too: If he slips, he can claim a spelling mistake.
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> \<snip\>

I think \*\*AR \*\*is saying that the NETA approach still leaves the original post in tact. So there is a difference between clarifying a post that we can all still see and editing a post in a way that prevents us from seeing the original text. In my opinion, a slip is not a spelling mistake. A slip is saying/implying that you know something that you shouldn’t know if you are town. Using NETA isn’t as likely to get you out of a slip (when we can all still see what was written) versus being able to remove the slip entirely.

If someone edits and they say “I was just fixing a spelling mistake”, it leaves room for suspicion.

However, I do agree that setting a policy vote because someone edited is a very easy out for scum. As I said before, I don’t think an edit would make me vote someone automatically but it may add to the suspicions I may already have about someone.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/224 "2010-10-03T16:12:40Z")

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most wonderful.

now we can add the edit/don’t edit discussion forum to the beginning of the game.

is it time to move on to lynch millers as a policy? or do we want to open the can or worms on how to differentiate between a lurker and a non participant? and then what in the world do you do with them?

just asking is all folks. i am real flexible.

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/225 "2010-10-03T16:30:45Z")

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You could comment on my post #214, **peeker**. That wasn’t about editing.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/226 "2010-10-03T17:05:11Z")

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> [@Oy](#):
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> You could comment on my post #214, **peeker**. That wasn’t about editing.

what observation would you have me make?

are we going down the handshake path again?

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/227 "2010-10-03T17:09:35Z")

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now eat the asparagus.

that really wasn’t as clear as i hoped.

i just can’t see **cookies** dropping a bomb that she and/or others has received their “full role pm” when in fact i see no evidence to indicate that.

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/228 "2010-10-03T17:10:32Z")

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Not at all. I’m just wondering, did other people have the idea that Scum got their role PMs already? Because I got that idea, and accepted it for some time, solely based on what **Cookies** said in post #137 and **Natlaw** ’s immediate agreement with her. I don’t know if it’s a valid point of suspicion pointing to **Cookies** having too much information or what. It may not be the greatest point to hang a discussion on, but it seems to me to be more interesting than talking about editing.

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/229 "2010-10-03T17:15:46Z")

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In post #210, **cookies** gently teased me that suggesting I had not yet received a role PM might be me trying to subtly push the idea I was town. But when I went back to look, I saw that she was the only one who’d suggested that Scum had already received their PMs. I know that’s a really big mistake to make, but we’ve seen that Scum make mistakes some times. So I’m wondering, was that a mistake on **cookies** part, or am I just too wired up?

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/230 "2010-10-03T17:17:24Z")

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Neta: mistake on **cookies** ’ part.

forgot the apostrophe

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/231 "2010-10-03T17:25:13Z")

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> [@Oy](#):
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> In post #210, **cookies** gently teased me that suggesting I had not yet received a role PM might be me trying to subtly push the idea I was town. But when I went back to look, I saw that she was the only one who’d suggested that Scum had already received their PMs. I know that’s a really big mistake to make, but we’ve seen that Scum make mistakes some times. So I’m wondering, was that a mistake on **cookies** part, or am I just too wired up?

i don’t think any of us have received our “full role pms” (or at least i haven’t).

also, knowing story i can’t see him doing something like that. but shoot, meh, who knows.

but i do appreciate the enthusiasm.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/232 "2010-10-03T17:26:17Z")

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> [@Oy](#):
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> Neta: mistake on **cookies** ’ part.
> 
> forgot the apostrophe

you should have just edited the original post. 😃

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/233 "2010-10-03T17:27:48Z")

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> [@Oy](#):
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> In post #210, **cookies** gently teased me that suggesting I had not yet received a role PM might be me trying to subtly push the idea I was town. But when I went back to look, I saw that she was the only one who’d suggested that Scum had already received their PMs. I know that’s a really big mistake to make, but we’ve seen that Scum make mistakes some times. So I’m wondering, was that a mistake on **cookies** part, or am I just too wired up?

I was going to weighin saying it was obvious that Cookies just meant PM note **role** pm, but then, Cookies only said some PM’s. Surely we ALL have a PM, it’s just actual roles that we are waiting on?

Could be suspicious, could be a simple misspeak.

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/234 "2010-10-03T17:27:51Z")

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Yes, because I really wanted another 20-30 posts on that topic. 😃

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/235 "2010-10-03T17:31:33Z")

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> [@peekercpa](#):
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> and i am kind of ambivalent about your second observation. which game was it where the scum posted to the main thread outing two of them?

I am not saying that doesn’t happen, just that it is the exception rather than the rule. Also scum rarely does anything without thinking. After this whole discussion it is much more likely that a townie will carelessly hit the edit button than scum. And I say that as someone who got killed as scum once because I carelessly edited a post.

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**Author:** ![Mrs\_McGinty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6bbea6/32.png) [@Mrs\_McGinty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs_McGinty)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/236 "2010-10-03T17:31:50Z")

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So, if I’m following this correctly, any editing of my posts will put me under suspicion.

And if I’m under suspicion, then the mafia are less likely to kill me at night.

Therefore, given that I’m nearly always murdered in the first few nights, I should be looking to edit as often as possible.

On the other hand, now that I’ve said this, they’re going to kill me anyway, aren’t they? :smack:

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/237 "2010-10-03T17:32:18Z")

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> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#):
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> I was going to weighin saying it was obvious that Cookies just meant PM note **role** pm, but then, Cookies only said some PM’s. Surely we ALL have a PM, it’s just actual roles that we are waiting on?
> 
> Could be suspicious, could be a simple misspeak.

Well, I don’t have any other basis for a suspicion, so for now it’s going to have to do. It’s not very good, but it’s all I’ve got.

So I guess I’ll kick it off. My first vote ever in Mafia, probably to be regretted.

**vote Cookies**

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/238 "2010-10-03T17:42:39Z")

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Psst, I don’t think that the voting period has started yet Oy!

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/239 "2010-10-03T17:43:17Z")

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Oh, well, so much for my first vote…

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/240 "2010-10-03T18:18:13Z")

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> [@peekercpa](#):
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> now eat the asparagus.

Would you like some potatoes to go with your veggies?

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