# Evil Dead Mafia II - Teaser and Sign-Ups \[Game On!\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 29, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493 "2010-09-29T17:35:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 120
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2381 "2010-10-28T15:04:41Z")
VOTE COUNT **Suburban Plankton** – 8 votes – Natlaw (2105), Normal Phase (2181), Oy! (2199), Nanook (2235), Total Lost (2239), Cookies (2252), special ed (2281), USCDiver (2331), **Mahaloth** – 2 votes – Hal Briston (2074), Drain Bead (2322) **Mrs. McGinty** – 2 votes – Suburban Plankton (2217), brewha (2237), **Total Lost** – 1 vote – NAF1138 (2254) **Texcat** – 1 vote – lilflower (2369) * * * PLAYER LIST ALIVE 1. Mahaloth 2. Oy! 3. Normal Phase 4. Drain Bead 5. Tom Scud _for GuiriEnEspana – Night Three_ 6. Total Lost 7. Mrs. McGinty 8. special ed 9. Texcat 10. Stanislaus 11. One and Only Wanderers 12. NAF1138 13. brewha 14. USCDiver 15. CometotheDarkSideWeHaveCookies 16. Natlaw 17. Hal Briston 18. Nanook of the North Shore 19. lilflower 20. Suburban Plankton DEAD MHaye (The Unctuous Plastic Surgeon), Town Vanilla Oredigger77 (The Pharmaceutical Sales Representative), Town Vanilla Chipacabra (The Complete A-Hole), Town Martyr Omi No Kami (The Stubborn Skeptic), Town Vanilla Idle Thoughts (The Inexperienced Religious Figure), Town Investigator Rysto (The Grave Robber), Town Special Romanic (The Hitchhiker), Town Special peekercpa (Morphous, Nightmare Prince), Scum Role-Blocker Astral Rejection (The Trickster), Scum Special Telcontar (The Demon Mook), Scum Goon * * * Day to end Saturday, October 30, at around 1:30PM. Also, I have been informed that **Mrs. McGinty** is experiencing computer trouble and may not be able to participate for a few days. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2382 "2010-10-28T15:06:33Z")
Swamped at work. If anyone sees me post anywhere on the Dope before 5 PM, please kick me. Will have a couple posts & a vote this evening. ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2383 "2010-10-28T15:07:13Z")
Also, it’s usually about now that someone does a maths post, so here goes: 5/4 \*72^2+(sqrt11-1/12)=(24/60+11^9!+99)/1800log10 Q.E.D. bitches. Q.E.Mother-frakkin’.D I may be a little bored right now. ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2384 "2010-10-28T15:08:28Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > VOTE COUNT > > **Suburban Plankton** – 8 votes – Natlaw (2105), Normal Phase (2181), Oy! (2199), Nanook (2235), Total Lost (2239), Cookies (2252), special ed (2281), USCDiver (2331), . I voted Suburban Plankton in post 2195. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2385 "2010-10-28T16:10:59Z")
**Total Lost?** ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2386 "2010-10-28T17:40:55Z")
Stanislaus, I did say that the book is more of a distraction than anything. I did not ever say that we shouldn’t talk about it. I find it intriguing and would love to know more about it. But, when I said it was a distraction - it was. Any conversation about it was just speculation and did nothing to find scum or confirm town. I’m impressed by how much work you put in to prove that I’ve talked about the book. You probably should have done more to prove that I thought we shouldn’t talk about it. ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2387 "2010-10-28T17:42:10Z")
NETA “When I said it was a distraction” Should have been “At the point in the game where I said it was a distraction”. ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2388 "2010-10-28T18:16:07Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > **Total Lost** > > When did you vote Telcontar on Day 2? I thought you voted Oneandonly. > > Also, why were you eager to share info. from role PM’s on Day One? I messed up the Days. Sorry. The whole having one game thread is not helping me sort things out and the votes that stays over don’t help much either. Telcontar was lynched Day 3 (and that would be me voting for him right along with everyone else 😉 ). I still think a sniped part of the role PM could have helped us in the Days to come. My idea wasn’t that we should quote our wincon or role-name. What I said (and still feel would have been a good idea) was that we should pick out a sentence and posted it. For data. Then when someone claimed later in the game that very first quote would have “locked them in”. They would have to stand by it and we would have been able to see if it indeed had the touch of Storyteller while still fitted with the rest of the role PM. Why are you bringing this up again? The idea seemed to die with the fact that most didn’t want to follow along and since we now have several claims it’s sort of meaningless I guess… ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2389 "2010-10-28T18:21:09Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > **Total Lost?** Take it easy. You posted the question to me 3 in the night my time and this even before I get up in the morning… Different timezones, remember 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2390 "2010-10-28T18:22:56Z")
> [@Total\_Lost](#): > > Take it easy. You posted the question to me 3 in the night my time and this even before I get up in the morning… > Different timezones, remember 😉 No - wait - I don’t sleep that long :eek: I was busy today and when I read (to quick) I saw it as 6 AM and not 6 PM my time. Sorry 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2391 "2010-10-28T22:04:55Z")
Not buying it. Nice try at attempting to look like an early Telcontar voter, when you were one of the last ones in. And I also think your attempt to get us to post from our role PM’s was anti-town. **Vote Total Lost** Oh, sorry if it seemed I was rushing you, though. ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2392 "2010-10-28T22:27:31Z")
> [@Stanislaus](#): > > Although there’s more “Let’s not talk about the book. But seriously, what about the book?” stuff the key point here is the linking of NAF and peeks as Scum.\*\* It’s a let vote for peeks (I did too) but the way that brewha tries to use that to push a link to NAF could be an attempt to make the most of a bad job.\*\* > The other point is the “dog that barked in the night” one: although brewha has produces lots of content-rich posts, most of that has been speculation about the book and strategy, as opposed to building a case. The one exception to that has been his focus on NAF, but again a lot of that comes across as speculation (what if the book recruited him?) rather than a hard case. Serious non snark question here. What are you trying to say in the bolded (by me) sentence? Late vote? Let’s vote?? I really have no idea how to defend against a sentence I can’t comprehend. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2393 "2010-10-28T23:00:21Z")
> [@Natlaw](#): > > 1. **CometotheDarkSideWeHaveCookies** > I don’t have a feel about her and hope she flips in Halloween first so I can compare better. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2010, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2394 "2010-10-29T00:12:17Z")
Ok, on Suburban. I basically think the case as laid out by [Normal here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13054452&postcount=2088) and [Stanislaus here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13062921&postcount=2195) is pretty solid. I’m especially pinged by the hammering of Oredigger followed by no vote and the Naf-is-a-liar thing. I also think the “especially with 4 town already dead” thing could be borderline PIS. However, I’m not going to vote him because (1) there wouldn’t be much point aside from registering my approval of the case, which this post ought to do and (2) I want to point out another possible direction of inquiry. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2010, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2395 "2010-10-29T00:38:50Z")
Now, the vote post: This is to a large degree a metagame vote. If I were on the scum team and looking for a recruit, who would I look for? We as a board tend to lynch the loud and let quiet-but-not-too-quiet players live. We talk and talk about how we shouldn’t lynch the loud, but we don’t ever actually follow that up. So I would be looking at players who had established themselves as low-volume posters, scum or Town. And to my mind, the two players who have a reputation as good, high-quality, low-volume posters in this game were **MHaye** and **Nanook**. And **MHaye** is dead and confirmed Town. But I didn’t want to vote Nanook **solely** for that, so here’s a look at his posts so far: [spoiler] 536 - thinks 4 scum is possible if there are multiple other killing roles. Votes Romanic 785 - Mafia players on this board use phrases like smudging, snuggling, etc far too loosely. Only town roles he can see needing to fish are Vig and Roleblocker. 792 - followup to NAF on above. 872 - In-laws incoming; will be gone 1141 - is back, is sorry to have missed end of day 1227 - does not have the book/ is not interested in the book. Asks Idle why he is suspicious of Guiri. 1314 - pushes NAF on his “please vig me” line; what if there is no vig, or vig is blocked somehow? Do we spend the whole next day debating lynching you? 1415 - well let me just quote: > [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](#): > > Wow. That’s an…intesting bandwagon. I’m not understanding it in the least though. > > Peeker’s supposed “slip” came during the Night. What exactly are the people voting for him assuming? That he’s scum and planned to steal the book from Naf and somehow slipped and said that Naf didn’t have the book before the event even occurred? Or maybe that the stealing was a special action that took place right away? But if that’s the case, why didn’t Naf mention he had lost the book before Day started? Or maybe, I see a few bring this up, Naf is scum with peeker, and Naf mentioned losing the book on the scum board. Again though, the original interchange that caused all the brewhaha occurred during the Night. So once again we have to assume the steal action, whatever it is, occurred during the Night and resolved before the Dawn. I guess I can kinda see it if Naf is scum and planned to hand the book off and peeker misunderstood/misposted it. But then why make the post about Idle right away? This just strikes me as far more likely to be a skim/misunderstanding than a scum slip. And it’s disturbing how many people just jumped all over it. Clearly it’s not all scum doing so, but it sure does smack of lazy Town. [1453](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13021386&postcount=1453) - Votes peeker for not posting vanilla PM, says next vote will be on NAF 1756 - votes Telcontar 1818 - Final Vote Telcontar “these days never amount to much” [2117](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13055401#post13055401) - scolds ed and NAF for not previewing; thinks Maha’s PM issues are null, although Ed’s case is pretty good; behavior issues are hard to cover up. Promises to digest Normal’s case on SP [2235](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13064631&postcount=2235) - tells McGinty to get over himself votes SP for Normal’s case, weak defense, argument that not having a good defense is a Town tell. Notes that Drain should be considered 90% Town 2253: replies to Normal, re: McGinty, that no the reaction doesn’t seem to be in line with people’s views.[/spoiler] So that’s 12 game-relevant posts, of which 3 are nearly contentless vote posts (on Romanic and Telcontar). Of the remainder, one post is a pretty hard push-back against the peeker lynch, characterizing the votes on him as “lazy Town”. This skepticism was quickly reversed, but he tied the lynch of peeker to a lynch the next day of NAF, whose case he had been on pretty hard earlier in the Day. This is plausible from a Town player, but it also has a clear Scum motive - try to save peeker, then when it looks hopeless (either from peeker saying “lynch me” on the scum board or just because it was by then blatantly obvious he was giving it up in the main thread) at least try to get some lemonade out of the lemons by lining up a NAF lynch the next day. Then his next overnight/day’s posts strike me mainly for how little is original in them. He thinks Ed’s case on Mahaloth is pretty good; he likes Normal’s case on Suburban and votes for him primarily on that basis. The only thing that looks original to me in those posts is his declaring Drain to be “90% Town” - at least, I don’t think anyone else went so far as to say that. So yeah, since his major original contribution to the game so far was defending peeker and pressuring NAF, and for the metagame reason that I think he’s a very attractive target for the pre-game scum recruiters, I will **vote Nanook** ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2010, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2396 "2010-10-29T00:49:42Z")
That is a case I can get behind. I don’t know why the Suburban Case doesn’t feel right to me, but it doesn’t. I can’t support it. It’s a gut thing and I hope I am wrong, but I like the case against Nanook. I am going to play out the rope on my vote for Total toDay, but Nanook may end up getting my vote toMorrow. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2010, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2397 "2010-10-29T02:37:45Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > \<\\> > So yeah, since his major original contribution to the game so far was defending peeker and pressuring NAF, and for the metagame reason that I think he’s a very attractive target for the pre-game scum recruiters, I will Interesting theory. From our dead Scum so far, Telcontar, Astral, and peeker, do you think that they’d be likely to pick Nanook as Scum? I see it as certainly plausible. Assuming the 3 of them were all original Scum, their choice would have come from: Not picked: Romanic Oredigger77 Chipacabra MHaye Omi No Kami Idle Thoughts Rysto Their choice was one of the following (still assuming none of them were the choice). I’ve taken the liberty to separate them into groups as I see them High Quality players with good experience I would be thrilled to have on my Scum team were I scum (which I’m not, sheesh!): NAF1138 CometotheDarkSideWeHaveCookies Normal Phase Natlaw Total Lost Quieter players: Nanook of the North Shore GuiriEnEspana (now Tom Scud) Louder players: special ed Newer (to SDMB at least) players: Mrs. McGinty lilflower Oy! In a scummy roleblocking class all her own: Drain Bead Players who often dig their own grave early even when Town: Suburban Plankton Everyone else: Mahaloth Texcat Stanislaus One and Only Wanderers brewha USCDiver Hal Briston ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2010, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2398 "2010-10-29T02:40:05Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > That is a case I can get behind. > > I don’t know why the Suburban Case doesn’t feel right to me, but it doesn’t. I can’t support it. It’s a gut thing and I hope I am wrong, but I like the case against Nanook. I am going to play out the rope on my vote for Total toDay, but Nanook may end up getting my vote toMorrow. It’s more of a theory than a case, isn’t it? This would be the point in time where on mafiascum, everyone would be asked to rank their top 5 choices of players to recruit if they were Scum. Over here, I think it might be more distracting and some people just wouldn’t do it. I think that kind of question/answer is interesting though. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2010, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2399 "2010-10-29T09:04:30Z")
Just back from Moscow, but knackered as have been travelling for 9.5 hours. Also, I have a live poker tournament tomorrow. It’s probably going to be Monday before I can weigh in. Apologies for poor participation toDay everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Lost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@Total\_Lost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Total_Lost)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2010, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493/2400 "2010-10-29T11:54:27Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Now, the vote post: > > This is to a large degree a metagame vote. If I were on the scum team and looking for a recruit, who would I look for? We as a board tend to lynch the loud and let quiet-but-not-too-quiet players live. We talk and talk about how we shouldn’t lynch the loud, but we don’t ever actually follow that up. > > So I would be looking at players who had established themselves as low-volume posters, scum or Town. And to my mind, the two players who have a reputation as good, high-quality, low-volume posters in this game were **MHaye** and **Nanook**. And **MHaye** is dead and confirmed Town. I don’t agree. I would be far more likely to pick a vocal player like NAF, Ed, Normal Phase or Peeker as a team-mate. Also I’d pick someone I was pretty sure would be able to talk his/her way out of most situations. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493.md?page=119) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evil-dead-mafia-ii-teaser-and-sign-ups-game-on/555493.md?page=121)